Only The Tip of The Obama Corruption Iceberg

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Congressional auditors: EPA broke law in social media campaign supporting clean-water rule This only corroborates what conservatives have been saying for years and now the GAO has put it's imprimatur on it. If we get a republican president the dam will break on the vast corruption that has been covered up by the media and the attorney general, but as with everything Obama the damage will already be done and no one will be accountable.
How does this compare to Bush lies that got thousands of Americans killed and cleared the field for the rise of ISIS?
 
Congressional auditors: EPA broke law in social media campaign supporting clean-water rule This only corroborates what conservatives have been saying for years and now the GAO has put it's imprimatur on it. If we get a republican president the dam will break on the vast corruption that has been covered up by the media and the attorney general, but as with everything Obama the damage will already be done and no one will be accountable.
How does this compare to Bush lies that got thousands of Americans killed and cleared the field for the rise of ISIS?
How does the fact that the Democrats (including Hillary) voted for BOTH of Bush's wars compare to Obungles' TWO illegal wars and the falsified intelligence that aided the rise of ISIS???
 
How does the fact that the Democrats (including Hillary) voted for BOTH of Bush's wars compare to Obungles' TWO illegal wars and the falsified intelligence that aided the rise of ISIS???
It about the lies. You like to point out what you call Obama and Hillary's lies, but turn a blind eye to the much bigger lies Bush told the nation and Congress, resulting in a vote for war on false pretenses and the REAL reason we have to deal with ISIS now. The question should be, why are you so fixated on 4 deaths, while giving Bush a pass for thousands? THAT'S what doesn't make sense, NOT whether Obama got the cause of a certain incident right. The explanation didn't cause deaths; Bush's lies to the nation DID.
 
Congressional auditors: EPA broke law in social media campaign supporting clean-water rule This only corroborates what conservatives have been saying for years and now the GAO has put it's imprimatur on it. If we get a republican president the dam will break on the vast corruption that has been covered up by the media and the attorney general, but as with everything Obama the damage will already be done and no one will be accountable.
How does this compare to Bush lies that got thousands of Americans killed and cleared the field for the rise of ISIS?

And the far left drones run their narratives without question or hesitation..

Yes that 1991 Iraq was unnecessary, right?
 
How does the fact that the Democrats (including Hillary) voted for BOTH of Bush's wars compare to Obungles' TWO illegal wars and the falsified intelligence that aided the rise of ISIS???
It about the lies. You like to point out what you call Obama and Hillary's lies, but turn a blind eye to the much bigger lies Bush told the nation and Congress, resulting in a vote for war on false pretenses and the REAL reason we have to deal with ISIS now. The question should be, why are you so fixated on 4 deaths, while giving Bush a pass for thousands? THAT'S what doesn't make sense, NOT whether Obama got the cause of a certain incident right. The explanation didn't cause deaths; Bush's lies to the nation DID.

In 19991 the Congress voted for war under false pretenses?

Oh that is right to these far left drones history does not start until 2003..
 
How does the fact that the Democrats (including Hillary) voted for BOTH of Bush's wars compare to Obungles' TWO illegal wars and the falsified intelligence that aided the rise of ISIS???
It about the lies. You like to point out what you call Obama and Hillary's lies, but turn a blind eye to the much bigger lies Bush told the nation and Congress, resulting in a vote for war on false pretenses and the REAL reason we have to deal with ISIS now. The question should be, why are you so fixated on 4 deaths, while giving Bush a pass for thousands? THAT'S what doesn't make sense, NOT whether Obama got the cause of a certain incident right. The explanation didn't cause deaths; Bush's lies to the nation DID.
So Hillary saw the same classified intelligence Bush did, and didn't have a clue about what she was looking at then, either???

Remember, she DID have the security clearance to access that intelligence...

Ever think that could explain the fuck-up with Benghazi???
 
How does the fact that the Democrats (including Hillary) voted for BOTH of Bush's wars compare to Obungles' TWO illegal wars and the falsified intelligence that aided the rise of ISIS???
It about the lies. You like to point out what you call Obama and Hillary's lies, but turn a blind eye to the much bigger lies Bush told the nation and Congress, resulting in a vote for war on false pretenses and the REAL reason we have to deal with ISIS now. The question should be, why are you so fixated on 4 deaths, while giving Bush a pass for thousands? THAT'S what doesn't make sense, NOT whether Obama got the cause of a certain incident right. The explanation didn't cause deaths; Bush's lies to the nation DID.
Or maybe you would like to explain these alleged "lies"...

Democrat Quotes on WMD

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
 
Congressional auditors: EPA broke law in social media campaign supporting clean-water rule

This only corroborates what conservatives have been saying for years and now the GAO has put it's imprimatur on it. If we get a republican president the dam will break on the vast corruption that has been covered up by the media and the attorney general, but as with everything Obama the damage will already be done and no one will be accountable.
Clearly most on the right are unaware of how ridiculous they are, with their partisanism, ignorance, and lies – this thread being one of many examples.
 
Holy crap, really? The Bush administration did this shit on a regular basis to sell their war on Iraq. NOW, because of clean water, it's an issue?

Why the fucking disconnect?
 
Congressional auditors: EPA broke law in social media campaign supporting clean-water rule

This only corroborates what conservatives have been saying for years and now the GAO has put it's imprimatur on it. If we get a republican president the dam will break on the vast corruption that has been covered up by the media and the attorney general, but as with everything Obama the damage will already be done and no one will be accountable.


US politics is corrupt.

In Africa they call it corruption, in the US they call it "campaign funds" with limits on how much money candidates are allowed they have PACs and Super PACs and probably BatPACs and SpiderPACs too.

No one can really tell how much money a politicians is getting from certain people or companies, and yet we all know that the politician takes the money, does what they like with it, and then gives the money givers whatever they like, regardless of what the people want.
 
So Hillary saw the same classified intelligence Bush did, and didn't have a clue about what she was looking at then, either??? Remember, she DID have the security clearance to access that intelligence...Ever think that could explain the fuck-up with Benghazi???
You really think Bush gave Congress, especially Dems, the same intelligence? Bush was keeping the facts from his own Sec, of State! That makes me question your intelligence. As for Benghazi, how can you compare an after-the-fact explanation to before-the-fact lies that killed thousands?
 
How does the fact that the Democrats (including Hillary) voted for BOTH of Bush's wars compare to Obungles' TWO illegal wars and the falsified intelligence that aided the rise of ISIS???
It about the lies. You like to point out what you call Obama and Hillary's lies, but turn a blind eye to the much bigger lies Bush told the nation and Congress, resulting in a vote for war on false pretenses and the REAL reason we have to deal with ISIS now. The question should be, why are you so fixated on 4 deaths, while giving Bush a pass for thousands? THAT'S what doesn't make sense, NOT whether Obama got the cause of a certain incident right. The explanation didn't cause deaths; Bush's lies to the nation DID.

These "lies" just added to the decision to invade Iraq, don't you agree?

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
 
So Hillary saw the same classified intelligence Bush did, and didn't have a clue about what she was looking at then, either??? Remember, she DID have the security clearance to access that intelligence...Ever think that could explain the fuck-up with Benghazi???
You really think Bush gave Congress, especially Dems, the same intelligence? Bush was keeping the facts from his own Sec, of State! That makes me question your intelligence. As for Benghazi, how can you compare an after-the-fact explanation to before-the-fact lies that killed thousands?

It was not up to Bush to give Congress intelligence information. The Congress calls in the various heads of the intelligence agencies and question them in closed sessions to get the classified information. Most informed people know that.

Most informed people know that all of the other countries, including the Red Cross, pulled their people out of Libya because they were didn't want them killed. Obama and Hillary weren't smart enough to do that and the deaths at Benghazi were the result of incompetence at the top. Then a lie about a video was used to cover it up.
 
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Congressional auditors: EPA broke law in social media campaign supporting clean-water rule This only corroborates what conservatives have been saying for years and now the GAO has put it's imprimatur on it. If we get a republican president the dam will break on the vast corruption that has been covered up by the media and the attorney general, but as with everything Obama the damage will already be done and no one will be accountable.
How does this compare to Bush lies that got thousands of Americans killed and cleared the field for the rise of ISIS?
OMG! Dick Cheney! DICK CHENEY!!
 
Congressional auditors: EPA broke law in social media campaign supporting clean-water rule

This only corroborates what conservatives have been saying for years and now the GAO has put it's imprimatur on it. If we get a republican president the dam will break on the vast corruption that has been covered up by the media and the attorney general, but as with everything Obama the damage will already be done and no one will be accountable.
Clearly most on the right are unaware of how ridiculous they are, with their partisanism, ignorance, and lies – this thread being one of many examples.
That fails as an ipse dixit fallacy.
Did the EPA violate the rules or not?
Does this adminsitration have a pattern of breaking laws and rules?
Yes and yes.
The most lawless administration in history.
 
It was not up to Bush to give Congress intelligence information. The Congress calls in the various heads of the intelligence agencies and question them in closed sessions to get the classified information. Most informed people know that. Most informed people know that all of the other countries, including the Red Cross, pulled their people out of Libya because they were didn't want them killed. Obama and Hillary weren't smart enough to do that and the deaths at Benghazi were the result of incompetence at the top. Then a lie about a video was used to cover it up.
The hypocrisy I see is that Bush gets a pass for faulty intelligence that caused thousands of lives, but Obama and Hillary are blasted for four deaths. Bush lied about the intelligence too or he wouldn't have ordered inspectors out, so he could have plausible deniability. He knew they weren't finding credible evidence and didn't want them to, so he could keep telling the WMD story. I don't see how a story about a video is in the same ballpark.
 
Not a chance. Just as W did nothing about Bubba. Obama did nothing about W. The next asshole will cover for big ears, no matter if it is an R.

It is all a big game that many somehow don't see.
 
It was not up to Bush to give Congress intelligence information. The Congress calls in the various heads of the intelligence agencies and question them in closed sessions to get the classified information. Most informed people know that. Most informed people know that all of the other countries, including the Red Cross, pulled their people out of Libya because they were didn't want them killed. Obama and Hillary weren't smart enough to do that and the deaths at Benghazi were the result of incompetence at the top. Then a lie about a video was used to cover it up.
The hypocrisy I see is that Bush gets a pass for faulty intelligence that caused thousands of lives, but Obama and Hillary are blasted for four deaths. Bush lied about the intelligence too or he wouldn't have ordered inspectors out, so he could have plausible deniability. He knew they weren't finding credible evidence and didn't want them to, so he could keep telling the WMD story. I don't see how a story about a video is in the same ballpark.

The Congress and the UN disagreed with you on Iraq. All of the other countries that pulled out of Libya knew what the danger was. It wasn't faulty intelligence that kept the Benghazi consulate open, it was Obama and Hillary.
 

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