Palestianian Legitimacy Versus Terrorism

[Connery]

Palestine stated they wanted to go to the ICC..."Authority (PA) decided on Monday to take the Israeli occupation to the International Criminal Court (ICC) for crimes against Palestinians in general, and against deceased Palestinian prisoner, Arafat Jaradat, in particular."

Yet, "Grad rocket hits road in southern city's industrial zone for first time since Operation Pillar of Defense. Gaza-based terror group said that the fire was its response to the death of Palestinian security prisoner Arafat Jaradat in Megiddo Prison on Saturday."

Palestine supports terrorist organizations and their acts while claiming to have legitimate claims against Israel to be forwarded to the ICC for adjudication for those complained of acts. There is no justification for this attack by this terrorist organization and no valid reason why Palestine should not prosecute this organization's members.

Rocket hits outskirts of Ashkelon; none injured - Israel News, Ynetnews

PA to sue Israel over crimes against Palestinians

 

[irosie91]

Sorry connery----AL AZHAR UNIVERSITY SCHOLARS OF KORANIC LAW ---
have determined that ANY attack on israel is legal according to the law
of ALLAH They have even endorsed the tying of bombs onto the
posteriors of young noble JIHADISTAS-----for the purpose of killing Israeli
children and more recently any jews in the world. As a kaffir it is not easy
for you to grasp the sublime beauty of islam ---HOWEVER the purpose
is noble-----it will----eventually bring peace and justice and the way of
allah to all the world

 

[Connery]

Sorry connery----AL AZHAR UNIVERSITY SCHOLARS OF KORANIC LAW ---
have determined that ANY attack on israel is legal according to the law
of ALLAH They have even endorsed the tying of bombs onto the
posteriors of young noble JIHADISTAS-----for the purpose of killing Israeli
children and more recently any jews in the world. As a kaffir it is not easy
for you to grasp the sublime beauty of islam ---HOWEVER the purpose
is noble-----it will----eventually bring peace and justice and the way of
allah to all the world

LOL I know....how can Palestine reconcile a lawsuit in a place that is not run by sharia law. According to Article 4 sec 2 states: The principles of Islamic Shari'a shall be the main source of legislation and the Articles of the Basic Law sec 4 "Islamic law is the basis, and Arabic is the official language, of Palestine". It is a different standard and burden which must be met.

 

[RoccoR]

irosie91, Connery, et al,

This is really counterproductive logic, and some sort of illogical rationalization to justify their actions.

Sorry connery----AL AZHAR UNIVERSITY SCHOLARS OF KORANIC LAW ---
have determined that ANY attack on israel is legal according to the law
of ALLAH They have even endorsed the tying of bombs onto the
posteriors of young noble JIHADISTAS-----for the purpose of killing Israeli
children and more recently any jews in the world. As a kaffir it is not easy
for you to grasp the sublime beauty of islam ---HOWEVER the purpose
is noble-----it will----eventually bring peace and justice and the way of
allah to all the world

LOL I know....how can Palestine reconcile a lawsuit in a place that is not run by sharia law. According to Article 4 sec 2 states: The principles of Islamic Shari'a shall be the main source of legislation and the Articles of the Basic Law sec 4 "Islamic law is the basis, and Arabic is the official language, of Palestine". It is a different standard and burden which must be met.

(COMMENT)

Nobility in the cause (questionable at best) does not justify ignoble actions.

Second, the Palestinians cannot have it both ways. You cannot, in the one hand, use Western Law to prosecute the Israelis, while in the other hand, violate the Western Law in favor of Koranic Law.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[jodylee]

Isreal has created through years of abuse, bombing, torture, and indisriminate murder of civilians a ton of people who hate them. yes the legitimate angle is the way forward, (no thanks to isreal) but the missiles will still fall for a little while they hate your (isreals) gutts for killing their family and freinds.

 

[Connery]

irosie91, Connery, et al,

This is really counterproductive logic, and some sort of illogical rationalization to justify their actions.

Sorry connery----AL AZHAR UNIVERSITY SCHOLARS OF KORANIC LAW ---
have determined that ANY attack on israel is legal according to the law
of ALLAH They have even endorsed the tying of bombs onto the
posteriors of young noble JIHADISTAS-----for the purpose of killing Israeli
children and more recently any jews in the world. As a kaffir it is not easy
for you to grasp the sublime beauty of islam ---HOWEVER the purpose
is noble-----it will----eventually bring peace and justice and the way of
allah to all the world

LOL I know....how can Palestine reconcile a lawsuit in a place that is not run by sharia law. According to Article 4 sec 2 states: The principles of Islamic Shari'a shall be the main source of legislation and the Articles of the Basic Law sec 4 "Islamic law is the basis, and Arabic is the official language, of Palestine". It is a different standard and burden which must be met.

(COMMENT)

Nobility in the cause (questionable at best) does not justify ignoble actions.

Second, the Palestinians cannot have it both ways. You cannot, in the one hand, use Western Law to prosecute the Israelis, while in the other hand, violate the Western Law in favor of Koranic Law.

Most Respectfully,
R

This is not my logic Rocco. Moreover, I see an inherent conflict of laws regarding Palestine and that used by the ICC.

 

[irosie91]

Isreal has created through years of abuse, bombing, torture, and indisriminate murder of civilians a ton of people who hate them. yes the legitimate angle is the way forward, (no thanks to isreal) but the missiles will still fall for a little while they hate your (isreals) gutts for killing their family and freinds.

Lots of people lose relatives to violence jody and never consider the
actions you endorse----like slitting the throats of their infants. My own
husbands family ---escaped ---when he was a baby----an arab muslim
country ----several years before 1948 ------that family lost members in
the shariah shit hole and more when they reached palestine. Lots
of members of his family have lots of reasons for hating the guts of
arab muslims for lots and lots of KILLINGS over lots and lots years.
Want to know about his grandmother who was raped and killed----her two
infants----already dead of starvation when her body was found? In
palestine----the cousin that helped them escape was found----in various part
of an orange grove------lots of PARTS No one in that family slits the
throats of babies-----the response you consider ---"NORMAL"

 

[Roudy]

Palestine stated they wanted to go to the ICC..."Authority (PA) decided on Monday to take the Israeli occupation to the International Criminal Court (ICC) for crimes against Palestinians in general, and against deceased Palestinian prisoner, Arafat Jaradat, in particular."

Yet, "Grad rocket hits road in southern city's industrial zone for first time since Operation Pillar of Defense. Gaza-based terror group said that the fire was its response to the death of Palestinian security prisoner Arafat Jaradat in Megiddo Prison on Saturday."

Palestine supports terrorist organizations and their acts while claiming to have legitimate claims against Israel to be forwarded to the ICC for adjudication for those complained of acts. There is no justification for this attack by this terrorist organization and no valid reason why Palestine should not prosecute this organization's members.

Rocket hits outskirts of Ashkelon; none injured - Israel News, Ynetnews

PA to sue Israel over crimes against Palestinians

Yup, as MJ says, it's called Palestinian Mentality.

 

[RoccoR]

jodylee, et al,

This makes sense.

Isreal has created through years of abuse, bombing, torture, and indisriminate murder of civilians a ton of people who hate them. yes the legitimate angle is the way forward, (no thanks to isreal) but the missiles will still fall for a little while they hate your (isreals) gutts for killing their family and freinds.

(COMMENT)

Six decades of conflict alters the perception of the region in ways that normal societies cannot appreciate.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Connery]

jodylee, et al,

This makes sense.

Isreal has created through years of abuse, bombing, torture, and indisriminate murder of civilians a ton of people who hate them. yes the legitimate angle is the way forward, (no thanks to isreal) but the missiles will still fall for a little while they hate your (isreals) gutts for killing their family and freinds.

(COMMENT)

Six decades of conflict alters the perception of the region in ways that normal societies cannot appreciate.

Most Respectfully,
R

What is a normal society?

 

[sealadaigh]

Palestine stated they wanted to go to the ICC..."Authority (PA) decided on Monday to take the Israeli occupation to the International Criminal Court (ICC) for crimes against Palestinians in general, and against deceased Palestinian prisoner, Arafat Jaradat, in particular."

Yet, "Grad rocket hits road in southern city's industrial zone for first time since Operation Pillar of Defense. Gaza-based terror group said that the fire was its response to the death of Palestinian security prisoner Arafat Jaradat in Megiddo Prison on Saturday."

Palestine supports terrorist organizations and their acts while claiming to have legitimate claims against Israel to be forwarded to the ICC for adjudication for those complained of acts. There is no justification for this attack by this terrorist organization and no valid reason why Palestine should not prosecute this organization's members.

Rocket hits outskirts of Ashkelon; none injured - Israel News, Ynetnews

PA to sue Israel over crimes against Palestinians

one has nothing to do with the other.

there are no internationally recognised "terrorist organisations." some people call the IDF a terrorist organtsation.

there more reasons for this attack than there was for the prior shooting attacks on palestinian civilians by the IDF after the cease fire that have left at least one palestinian dead and several injured.

 

[Connery]

Palestine stated they wanted to go to the ICC..."Authority (PA) decided on Monday to take the Israeli occupation to the International Criminal Court (ICC) for crimes against Palestinians in general, and against deceased Palestinian prisoner, Arafat Jaradat, in particular."

Yet, "Grad rocket hits road in southern city's industrial zone for first time since Operation Pillar of Defense. Gaza-based terror group said that the fire was its response to the death of Palestinian security prisoner Arafat Jaradat in Megiddo Prison on Saturday."

Palestine supports terrorist organizations and their acts while claiming to have legitimate claims against Israel to be forwarded to the ICC for adjudication for those complained of acts. There is no justification for this attack by this terrorist organization and no valid reason why Palestine should not prosecute this organization's members.

Rocket hits outskirts of Ashkelon; none injured - Israel News, Ynetnews

PA to sue Israel over crimes against Palestinians

one has nothing to do with the other.

there are no internationally recognised "terrorist organisations." some people call the IDF a terrorist organtsation.

there more reasons for this attack than there was for the prior shooting attacks on palestinian civilians by the IDF after the cease fire that have left at least one palestinian dead and several injured.

Doing nothing about acts of terrorism is condoning the act itself. That is pertinent to any investigation by the ICC.

 

[Roudy]

Palestine stated they wanted to go to the ICC..."Authority (PA) decided on Monday to take the Israeli occupation to the International Criminal Court (ICC) for crimes against Palestinians in general, and against deceased Palestinian prisoner, Arafat Jaradat, in particular."

Yet, "Grad rocket hits road in southern city's industrial zone for first time since Operation Pillar of Defense. Gaza-based terror group said that the fire was its response to the death of Palestinian security prisoner Arafat Jaradat in Megiddo Prison on Saturday."

Palestine supports terrorist organizations and their acts while claiming to have legitimate claims against Israel to be forwarded to the ICC for adjudication for those complained of acts. There is no justification for this attack by this terrorist organization and no valid reason why Palestine should not prosecute this organization's members.

Rocket hits outskirts of Ashkelon; none injured - Israel News, Ynetnews

PA to sue Israel over crimes against Palestinians

one has nothing to do with the other.

there are no internationally recognised "terrorist organisations." some people call the IDF a terrorist organtsation.

there more reasons for this attack than there was for the prior shooting attacks on palestinian civilians by the IDF after the cease fire that have left at least one palestinian dead and several injured.

Sure there are internationally recognized terrorist organizations, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Queda, Islamic Jihad, etc. are among organizations that most of the West and civilized nations recognize as terrorist. The IDF is not recognized as terrorist if only by Islamic terrorist organizations or pariah nations. Just because you don't recognize Islamic terrorists as terrorists, doesn't mean that is the case.

 

[sealadaigh]

irosie91, Connery, et al,

This is really counterproductive logic, and some sort of illogical rationalization to justify their actions.

Sorry connery----AL AZHAR UNIVERSITY SCHOLARS OF KORANIC LAW ---
have determined that ANY attack on israel is legal according to the law
of ALLAH They have even endorsed the tying of bombs onto the
posteriors of young noble JIHADISTAS-----for the purpose of killing Israeli
children and more recently any jews in the world. As a kaffir it is not easy
for you to grasp the sublime beauty of islam ---HOWEVER the purpose
is noble-----it will----eventually bring peace and justice and the way of
allah to all the world

LOL I know....how can Palestine reconcile a lawsuit in a place that is not run by sharia law. According to Article 4 sec 2 states: The principles of Islamic Shari'a shall be the main source of legislation and the Articles of the Basic Law sec 4 "Islamic law is the basis, and Arabic is the official language, of Palestine". It is a different standard and burden which must be met.

(COMMENT)

Nobility in the cause (questionable at best) does not justify ignoble actions.

Second, the Palestinians cannot have it both ways. You cannot, in the one hand, use Western Law to prosecute the Israelis, while in the other hand, violate the Western Law in favor of Koranic Law.

Most Respectfully,
R

how about this for a plan, you three...

if you do not assume that "palestine" or all palestinians believe or abide by what some koranic scholar at some egyptian university said, i will agree not to assume that all israelis and jews believe and abide by what some talmudic scholar and halikhic authority on the west bank preaches.

and rocco, yes you (palestinians) can use western law to prosecute the israelis and still violate it in favour of koranic law. you just should not expect to not be prosecuted in the western judicial system for violations of western law if caught.

 

[sealadaigh]

Palestine stated they wanted to go to the ICC..."Authority (PA) decided on Monday to take the Israeli occupation to the International Criminal Court (ICC) for crimes against Palestinians in general, and against deceased Palestinian prisoner, Arafat Jaradat, in particular."

Yet, "Grad rocket hits road in southern city's industrial zone for first time since Operation Pillar of Defense. Gaza-based terror group said that the fire was its response to the death of Palestinian security prisoner Arafat Jaradat in Megiddo Prison on Saturday."

Palestine supports terrorist organizations and their acts while claiming to have legitimate claims against Israel to be forwarded to the ICC for adjudication for those complained of acts. There is no justification for this attack by this terrorist organization and no valid reason why Palestine should not prosecute this organization's members.

Rocket hits outskirts of Ashkelon; none injured - Israel News, Ynetnews

PA to sue Israel over crimes against Palestinians

one has nothing to do with the other.

there are no internationally recognised "terrorist organisations." some people call the IDF a terrorist organtsation.

there more reasons for this attack than there was for the prior shooting attacks on palestinian civilians by the IDF after the cease fire that have left at least one palestinian dead and several injured.

Sure there are internationally recognized terrorist organizations, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Queda, Islamic Jihad, etc. are among organizations that most of the West and civilized nations recognize as terrorist. The IDF is not recognized as terrorist if only by Islamic terrorist organizations or pariah nations. Just because you don't recognize Islamic terrorists as terrorists, doesn't mean that is the case.

they are not recognised by any international body.

i don't recognise any organisation as a "terrorist" organisation.. it serves absolutely no purpose other than to inflame people, and inflamed people shoot sikhs in wisconsin and things like that, little else..

 

[sealadaigh]

Palestine stated they wanted to go to the ICC..."Authority (PA) decided on Monday to take the Israeli occupation to the International Criminal Court (ICC) for crimes against Palestinians in general, and against deceased Palestinian prisoner, Arafat Jaradat, in particular."

Yet, "Grad rocket hits road in southern city's industrial zone for first time since Operation Pillar of Defense. Gaza-based terror group said that the fire was its response to the death of Palestinian security prisoner Arafat Jaradat in Megiddo Prison on Saturday."

Palestine supports terrorist organizations and their acts while claiming to have legitimate claims against Israel to be forwarded to the ICC for adjudication for those complained of acts. There is no justification for this attack by this terrorist organization and no valid reason why Palestine should not prosecute this organization's members.

Rocket hits outskirts of Ashkelon; none injured - Israel News, Ynetnews

PA to sue Israel over crimes against Palestinians

one has nothing to do with the other.

there are no internationally recognised "terrorist organisations." some people call the IDF a terrorist organtsation.

there more reasons for this attack than there was for the prior shooting attacks on palestinian civilians by the IDF after the cease fire that have left at least one palestinian dead and several injured.

Doing nothing about acts of terrorism is condoning the act itself. That is pertinent to any investigation by the ICC.

exactly who do you want to do exactly what about "acts of terrorism".

personally, were i a young man out on the streets and i faced with the prospect of being picked up by whatever aithorities and held without trial or charge or crime for an unspecified period of time in a place with a reputation for neglecting, abusing, and even torturing those interned, i'd be a little bit terrified. but i bet you wouldn't consider such "administrative detention" an "act of terror" despite the effect it has on that young man out on the streets or the populace in general.

your alleged "acts of terrorism" merely relect your political viewpoint...and related to economic conditions....those who can afford "non-terroristic" artillery.

 

[Hossfly]

one has nothing to do with the other.

there are no internationally recognised "terrorist organisations." some people call the IDF a terrorist organtsation.

there more reasons for this attack than there was for the prior shooting attacks on palestinian civilians by the IDF after the cease fire that have left at least one palestinian dead and several injured.

Sure there are internationally recognized terrorist organizations, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Queda, Islamic Jihad, etc. are among organizations that most of the West and civilized nations recognize as terrorist. The IDF is not recognized as terrorist if only by Islamic terrorist organizations or pariah nations. Just because you don't recognize Islamic terrorists as terrorists, doesn't mean that is the case.

they are not recognised by any international body.

i don't recognise any organisation as a "terrorist" organisation.. it serves absolutely no purpose other than to inflame people, and inflamed people shoot sikhs in wisconsin and things like that, little else..

Of course that group killing Christians in Nigeria are not terrorists in Seal's mind. They are fine, upstanding men. No doubt those in Mali are fine upstanding men too. Why don't we just throw in Al Qaeda and the Taliban and just consider them fine upstanding men who would never harm a hair on an innocent person's head.

 

[RoccoR]

jodylee, et al,

I lend my thanks to this post, not because I agree, but because it expresses a commonly held view about the carnage.

Isreal has created through years of abuse, bombing, torture, and indisriminate murder of civilians a ton of people who hate them. yes the legitimate angle is the way forward, (no thanks to isreal) but the missiles will still fall for a little while they hate your (isreals) gutts for killing their family and freinds.

(COMMENT)

Because there are multiple generation involved. Every member of the discussion group starts the dispute at a different time to fit their agenda on who threw the first punch.

At this point, it really doesn't matter any more. It becomes just an excuse to continue the conflict. What does matter is the last punch.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hossfly]

Isreal has created through years of abuse, bombing, torture, and indisriminate murder of civilians a ton of people who hate them. yes the legitimate angle is the way forward, (no thanks to isreal) but the missiles will still fall for a little while they hate your (isreals) gutts for killing their family and freinds.

After the little fracas in November, Bibi said the next time rockets were fired into Israel, the IDF was going to lay a scunion on Hamas and Co. I don't think it will be like Billy Sherman's "March Through Georgia", but it's gonna hurt.

 

[sealadaigh]

Sure there are internationally recognized terrorist organizations, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Queda, Islamic Jihad, etc. are among organizations that most of the West and civilized nations recognize as terrorist. The IDF is not recognized as terrorist if only by Islamic terrorist organizations or pariah nations. Just because you don't recognize Islamic terrorists as terrorists, doesn't mean that is the case.

they are not recognised by any international body.

i don't recognise any organisation as a "terrorist" organisation.. it serves absolutely no purpose other than to inflame people, and inflamed people shoot sikhs in wisconsin and things like that, little else..

Of course that group killing Christians in Nigeria are not terrorists in Seal's mind. They are fine, upstanding men. No doubt those in Mali are fine upstanding men too. Why don't we just throw in Al Qaeda and the Taliban and just consider them fine upstanding men who would never harm a hair on an innocent person's head.

don't be an ass....no...don't be a stupid ass.

do you actually equate anyone who is not a terrorist (jeffery dahmer, jerry sandusky, bernie madoff) as fine upstanding men?

perhaps someday, with your god-like wisdom, it will occur to you that a lot of the strife and internal disputes of african and mid-eastern countries is that colonial powers drew borders that threw historically conflicting groups together and then *POOF* they disappeared, leaving them to fend for themselves in what amounted to a power vacuum.