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PolitiFact Rhode Island | U.S. Rep. David Cicilline says passing the Senate-approved immigration bill would save $200 billion of next ten years


During an appearance from Washington on the WPRI-TV program "Newsmakers," which aired July 21, Cicilline said passing the bipartisan immigration bill already approved by the Senate would save the country billions.

"The Congressional Budget Office, a nonpartisan office, did an analysis and said that passing comprehensive immigration reform will reduce the federal deficit by $200 billion over the next decade," said Cicilline.

Roughly $20 billion per year?

When we inquired, Cicilline's office sent a link to the CBO report.

It does indeed offer that as an estimate. The actual projected savings: $197 billion from 2014 to 2023.

The legislation would increase the deficit in 2014 by $2.5 billion but beginning in 2015, as new income and payroll tax revenues from the new workers start accumulating, it would cut away at the deficit by an ever-increasing amount, according to the budget office, starting at $4.7 billion and shaving as much as $55.9 billion in the final year of the projection.

The savings will come despite the government having to pay an additional $82 billion over 10 years for health insurance subsidies, $29 billion for Medicaid for adults and children, $6 billion more for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (commonly known as food stamps) and $5.1 billion more for unemployment insurance.

Why the savings?

Passage of the law would increase federal revenues by $459 billion from 2014 to 2023, the report said. "That increase would stem largely from additional collections of income and payroll taxes, reflecting both an increase in the size of the U.S. labor force and changes in the legal status of some current workers."

Well Republitards?
 
PolitiFact Rhode Island | U.S. Rep. David Cicilline says passing the Senate-approved immigration bill would save $200 billion of next ten years


During an appearance from Washington on the WPRI-TV program "Newsmakers," which aired July 21, Cicilline said passing the bipartisan immigration bill already approved by the Senate would save the country billions.

"The Congressional Budget Office, a nonpartisan office, did an analysis and said that passing comprehensive immigration reform will reduce the federal deficit by $200 billion over the next decade," said Cicilline.

Roughly $20 billion per year?

When we inquired, Cicilline's office sent a link to the CBO report.

It does indeed offer that as an estimate. The actual projected savings: $197 billion from 2014 to 2023.

The legislation would increase the deficit in 2014 by $2.5 billion but beginning in 2015, as new income and payroll tax revenues from the new workers start accumulating, it would cut away at the deficit by an ever-increasing amount, according to the budget office, starting at $4.7 billion and shaving as much as $55.9 billion in the final year of the projection.

The savings will come despite the government having to pay an additional $82 billion over 10 years for health insurance subsidies, $29 billion for Medicaid for adults and children, $6 billion more for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (commonly known as food stamps) and $5.1 billion more for unemployment insurance.

Why the savings?

Passage of the law would increase federal revenues by $459 billion from 2014 to 2023, the report said. "That increase would stem largely from additional collections of income and payroll taxes, reflecting both an increase in the size of the U.S. labor force and changes in the legal status of some current workers."

Well Republitards?

Build the fence

-Geaux
 
Illegal Aliens claim they already pay taxes using a Tax I.D. number they get through the IRS website.

Legalizing all those Illegals will make them and their extended families eligible for even more Govt' services than they already get (like ObamaCare) which will in turn, Bankrupt the Nation.

That is why I support it.
 
Dat's right...

... `cause den all dem illegal Hispexicans...

... gonna have to start payin' taxes...

... an' it gonna be like a new baby boom...

... an' den Social Security gonna get outta the red...

... an' Granny'll get dat 2nd stimulus check...

... like she was s'posed to.
:cool:
 
PolitiFact Rhode Island | U.S. Rep. David Cicilline says passing the Senate-approved immigration bill would save $200 billion of next ten years


During an appearance from Washington on the WPRI-TV program "Newsmakers," which aired July 21, Cicilline said passing the bipartisan immigration bill already approved by the Senate would save the country billions.

"The Congressional Budget Office, a nonpartisan office, did an analysis and said that passing comprehensive immigration reform will reduce the federal deficit by $200 billion over the next decade," said Cicilline.

Roughly $20 billion per year?

When we inquired, Cicilline's office sent a link to the CBO report.

It does indeed offer that as an estimate. The actual projected savings: $197 billion from 2014 to 2023.

The legislation would increase the deficit in 2014 by $2.5 billion but beginning in 2015, as new income and payroll tax revenues from the new workers start accumulating, it would cut away at the deficit by an ever-increasing amount, according to the budget office, starting at $4.7 billion and shaving as much as $55.9 billion in the final year of the projection.

The savings will come despite the government having to pay an additional $82 billion over 10 years for health insurance subsidies, $29 billion for Medicaid for adults and children, $6 billion more for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (commonly known as food stamps) and $5.1 billion more for unemployment insurance.

Why the savings?

Passage of the law would increase federal revenues by $459 billion from 2014 to 2023, the report said. "That increase would stem largely from additional collections of income and payroll taxes, reflecting both an increase in the size of the U.S. labor force and changes in the legal status of some current workers."

Well Republitards?

What a retarded op, it acts like they are not working and paying taxes no and only a dumb ass liberal would think adding more people is a good thing for our already high unemployment.
 
...but beginning in 2015, as new income and payroll tax revenues from the new workers start accumulating, it would cut away at the deficit by an ever-increasing amount

This of course requires the MASSIVE assumption that formerly illegal aliens would all of sudden begin working above the table, dutifully paying their taxes.

That's one hell of an assumption, especially when you consider the huge numbers of illegal aliens that have no interest in obtaining citizenship:

Pew Study: Not All Immigrants Want Citizenship

The CBO is a calculator, nothing more. They'll spit out real numbers, but those figures are based on the assumptions provided by elected representatives.

Here's a better idea: End the nanny state entitlements, Obamacare, and all these welfare programs left over from the failed so called 'great society', and end the immoral practice of taxing a man's labor...and nobody will care who works in this country, citizen or otherwise.
 
Where are the jobs coming from that these people will be paying taxes on all of a sudden? How come unemployed CITIZENS are not working in these jobs NOW? Makes no sense.
 
PolitiFact Rhode Island | U.S. Rep. David Cicilline says passing the Senate-approved immigration bill would save $200 billion of next ten years


During an appearance from Washington on the WPRI-TV program "Newsmakers," which aired July 21, Cicilline said passing the bipartisan immigration bill already approved by the Senate would save the country billions.

"The Congressional Budget Office, a nonpartisan office, did an analysis and said that passing comprehensive immigration reform will reduce the federal deficit by $200 billion over the next decade," said Cicilline.

Roughly $20 billion per year?

When we inquired, Cicilline's office sent a link to the CBO report.

It does indeed offer that as an estimate. The actual projected savings: $197 billion from 2014 to 2023.

The legislation would increase the deficit in 2014 by $2.5 billion but beginning in 2015, as new income and payroll tax revenues from the new workers start accumulating, it would cut away at the deficit by an ever-increasing amount, according to the budget office, starting at $4.7 billion and shaving as much as $55.9 billion in the final year of the projection.

The savings will come despite the government having to pay an additional $82 billion over 10 years for health insurance subsidies, $29 billion for Medicaid for adults and children, $6 billion more for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (commonly known as food stamps) and $5.1 billion more for unemployment insurance.

Why the savings?

Passage of the law would increase federal revenues by $459 billion from 2014 to 2023, the report said. "That increase would stem largely from additional collections of income and payroll taxes, reflecting both an increase in the size of the U.S. labor force and changes in the legal status of some current workers."

Well Republitards?

Build the fence

-Geaux

Yup. Put a wall between our countries so no more can come in. Then deal with those illegals who are already here.
 
PolitiFact Rhode Island | U.S. Rep. David Cicilline says passing the Senate-approved immigration bill would save $200 billion of next ten years


During an appearance from Washington on the WPRI-TV program "Newsmakers," which aired July 21, Cicilline said passing the bipartisan immigration bill already approved by the Senate would save the country billions.

"The Congressional Budget Office, a nonpartisan office, did an analysis and said that passing comprehensive immigration reform will reduce the federal deficit by $200 billion over the next decade," said Cicilline.

Roughly $20 billion per year?

When we inquired, Cicilline's office sent a link to the CBO report.

It does indeed offer that as an estimate. The actual projected savings: $197 billion from 2014 to 2023.

The legislation would increase the deficit in 2014 by $2.5 billion but beginning in 2015, as new income and payroll tax revenues from the new workers start accumulating, it would cut away at the deficit by an ever-increasing amount, according to the budget office, starting at $4.7 billion and shaving as much as $55.9 billion in the final year of the projection.

The savings will come despite the government having to pay an additional $82 billion over 10 years for health insurance subsidies, $29 billion for Medicaid for adults and children, $6 billion more for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (commonly known as food stamps) and $5.1 billion more for unemployment insurance.

Why the savings?

Passage of the law would increase federal revenues by $459 billion from 2014 to 2023, the report said. "That increase would stem largely from additional collections of income and payroll taxes, reflecting both an increase in the size of the U.S. labor force and changes in the legal status of some current workers."

Well Republitards?

DO ONE THING FIRST... SECURE THE BORDERS
THEN do the next thing...
BUT THIS CRAP of GIGANTIC huge bureaucratic bills is destroying the USA!!
DO ONE THING WELL FIRST... SECURE THE BORDERS!
 
...but beginning in 2015, as new income and payroll tax revenues from the new workers start accumulating, it would cut away at the deficit by an ever-increasing amount

This of course requires the MASSIVE assumption that formerly illegal aliens would all of sudden begin working above the table, dutifully paying their taxes.

That's one hell of an assumption, especially when you consider the huge numbers of illegal aliens that have no interest in obtaining citizenship:

Pew Study: Not All Immigrants Want Citizenship

The CBO is a calculator, nothing more. They'll spit out real numbers, but those figures are based on the assumptions provided by elected representatives.

Here's a better idea: End the nanny state entitlements, Obamacare, and all these welfare programs left over from the failed so called 'great society', and end the immoral practice of taxing a man's labor...and nobody will care who works in this country, citizen or otherwise.

Your right there. Loads of them hate America and Americans. They just want the money they can make here to send home.

I wish we could kick them, wives, and anchor babies right the fuck out. Send em back to third world Mexico sans our American dollars.
 
" additional collections of income and payroll taxes,"

Do you think income and payroll taxes AREN"T being collected now?

Geez are you naive!
illegals working for legal businesses have payroll and income taxes deducted!
These payments are going directly as tax revenue.

NOW news break for you dummies!
DO YOU think these "Illegals" are filing tax returns????
The IRS issued 1.5 million ITINs in 2006 — a 30 percent increase from the previous year. All told, the tax liability of ITIN filers between 1996 and 2003 was $50 billion. The agency has no way to track how many were immigrants, but it’s widely believed most people using ITINS are in the United States illegally.

BUT!!!!

In 2004, the IRS got 7.9 million W-2s with names that didn’t match a Social Security Number. More than half were from California, Texas, Florida and Illinois, states with large immigrant populations, leading experts to believe they likely represent the wages of illegal immigrants. Even immigrants who use ITINs to file taxes are forced to make up a Social Security Number when they get a job.

Illegals filing taxes more than ever - Business - Personal finance - Tax Tactics | NBC News

Do you understand while few "illegals" file taxes MORE then 7 million illegals fail to file!
 
Where are the jobs coming from that these people will be paying taxes on all of a sudden? How come unemployed CITIZENS are not working in these jobs NOW? Makes no sense.

The better question is what jobs are unskilled and somehow also earn enough to pay taxes.

The misnomer that suddenly illegal aliens are going to be taxpayers is rather inane. The higher likelihood is that those people are not going to fill jobs that pay enough to pay taxes in the first place. Instead, they are going to be getting tax subsidies that they are currently not eligible for.
 
...but beginning in 2015, as new income and payroll tax revenues from the new workers start accumulating, it would cut away at the deficit by an ever-increasing amount

This of course requires the MASSIVE assumption that formerly illegal aliens would all of sudden begin working above the table, dutifully paying their taxes.

That's one hell of an assumption, especially when you consider the huge numbers of illegal aliens that have no interest in obtaining citizenship:

Pew Study: Not All Immigrants Want Citizenship

The CBO is a calculator, nothing more. They'll spit out real numbers, but those figures are based on the assumptions provided by elected representatives.

Here's a better idea: End the nanny state entitlements, Obamacare, and all these welfare programs left over from the failed so called 'great society', and end the immoral practice of taxing a man's labor...and nobody will care who works in this country, citizen or otherwise.

Everyone quotes the CBO as if its produced numbers are infallable. They are not. They are soley based on the assumptions made by the people providing the numbers.

So even if the CBO accounting drones are not biased, the numbers given to them sure the hell are.
 
...but beginning in 2015, as new income and payroll tax revenues from the new workers start accumulating, it would cut away at the deficit by an ever-increasing amount

This of course requires the MASSIVE assumption that formerly illegal aliens would all of sudden begin working above the table, dutifully paying their taxes.

That's one hell of an assumption, especially when you consider the huge numbers of illegal aliens that have no interest in obtaining citizenship:

Pew Study: Not All Immigrants Want Citizenship

The CBO is a calculator, nothing more. They'll spit out real numbers, but those figures are based on the assumptions provided by elected representatives.

Here's a better idea: End the nanny state entitlements, Obamacare, and all these welfare programs left over from the failed so called 'great society', and end the immoral practice of taxing a man's labor...and nobody will care who works in this country, citizen or otherwise.

Your right there. Loads of them hate America and Americans. They just want the money they can make here to send home.

I wish we could kick them, wives, and anchor babies right the fuck out. Send em back to third world Mexico sans our American dollars.

hey, shit head, building a wall and maintain it would cost more money and would require more jobs for border patrol/DHLS, that would be expanding govt, goes against your dogma.
 
This of course requires the MASSIVE assumption that formerly illegal aliens would all of sudden begin working above the table, dutifully paying their taxes.

That's one hell of an assumption, especially when you consider the huge numbers of illegal aliens that have no interest in obtaining citizenship:

Pew Study: Not All Immigrants Want Citizenship

The CBO is a calculator, nothing more. They'll spit out real numbers, but those figures are based on the assumptions provided by elected representatives.

Here's a better idea: End the nanny state entitlements, Obamacare, and all these welfare programs left over from the failed so called 'great society', and end the immoral practice of taxing a man's labor...and nobody will care who works in this country, citizen or otherwise.

Your right there. Loads of them hate America and Americans. They just want the money they can make here to send home.

I wish we could kick them, wives, and anchor babies right the fuck out. Send em back to third world Mexico sans our American dollars.

hey, shit head, building a wall and maintain it would cost more money and would require more jobs for border patrol/DHLS, that would be expanding govt, goes against your dogma.

Not if you used veterans.

Not if you cut government bloat and fraud.
 
We have 26.6 million Americans out of work.
Where are the 11 million illegals suppose to get jobs?
If over 26 million can't find jobs, 11 million illegals sure aren't.
 
Your right there. Loads of them hate America and Americans. They just want the money they can make here to send home.

I wish we could kick them, wives, and anchor babies right the fuck out. Send em back to third world Mexico sans our American dollars.

hey, shit head, building a wall and maintain it would cost more money and would require more jobs for border patrol/DHLS, that would be expanding govt, goes against your dogma.

Not if you used veterans.

Not if you cut government bloat and fraud.

Yup you can also electrify the damned fence and use predator drones to watch the wall.

Loads of options out there for keeping illegals out.
 
Your right there. Loads of them hate America and Americans. They just want the money they can make here to send home.

I wish we could kick them, wives, and anchor babies right the fuck out. Send em back to third world Mexico sans our American dollars.

hey, shit head, building a wall and maintain it would cost more money and would require more jobs for border patrol/DHLS, that would be expanding govt, goes against your dogma.

Not if you used veterans.

Not if you cut government bloat and fraud.

Thought yall hated govt workers who eat up tax payer dollars, wasn't that the shit you were all telling Charlie?
 
hey, shit head, building a wall and maintain it would cost more money and would require more jobs for border patrol/DHLS, that would be expanding govt, goes against your dogma.

Not if you used veterans.

Not if you cut government bloat and fraud.

Thought yall hated govt workers who eat up tax payer dollars, wasn't that the shit you were all telling Charlie?

I'm sorry you don't understand what "cut government bloat and fraud" means.

Also, cut government redundancy. Too much of that as well. Get rid of the excess and use some of those people on the border.
 

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