Police knew that the El Paso shooter had an ak47 and that he intended to use it, but did nothing

[pknopp]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

I heard alittle about that. I just don't think there is allot the cops could have done.

With that being the conversation we should be having, but we are not. Maybe there is nothing in the end they could have done but unless we start asking ourselves this question we will never know.

Most of the people who end up doing something like this have all kinds of red flags in their past.

James Holmes therapist said that he threatened her life but no one did anything. On the other hand there are many troubled people that never harm anyone outside of themselves.

We will never address this because fighting partisan political arguments is more important. A few dead is worth the price of winning power.

 

[OldLady]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

Why in the heck would you say such a thing?

Your linked article explains the call, and your evil stoking comment is the problem with the world today...

If the police cant stop mass killings when they have the name of the killer before, the police are useless.

They did not have her name or her son's.

 

[pknopp]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun - CNN

The police are not trained to deal with people with mental health issues. We see quite often where they are treated just like anyone else. Bash the autistic man upside the head because he didn't immediately respond to your command.

This needs to change.

 

[Frannie]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

The mother knew, it is not responsible to force a mother to have her son committed, that responsibility is a police, court and psychological one. The mother did her part as a responsible American

 

[Frannie]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

Why in the heck would you say such a thing?

Your linked article explains the call, and your evil stoking comment is the problem with the world today...

If the police cant stop mass killings when they have the name of the killer before, the police are useless.

They did not have her name or her son's.

Yea they did, phone records will prove

 

[Frannie]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun - CNN

The police are not trained to deal with people with mental health issues. We see quite often where they are treated just like anyone else. Bash the autistic man upside the head because he didn't immediately respond to your command.

This needs to change.

Yea they are kid

 

[Vastator]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

I heard alittle about that. I just don't think there is allot the cops could have done.

Saying that is just not responsible, the FBI also had the both the name of Nikolas Cruse and that he intended to do what he did. Law enforcement failed, but hey they always get the donut

I get it, but in all those cases say they took the guns, what would the news been then? Corrupt FBI confiscating guns! 1776,1776! No frame had been committed. This ain't the minority report. We can't arrest or detain folks just because we think they will commit a crime.

Oh, but that is exactly what the left would like to see.

 

[OldLady]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

I heard alittle about that. I just don't think there is allot the cops could have done.

Saying that is just not responsible, the FBI also had the both the name of Nikolas Cruse and that he intended to do what he did. Law enforcement failed, but hey they always get the donut

I get it, but in all those cases say they took the guns, what would the news been then? Corrupt FBI confiscating guns! 1776,1776! No frame had been committed. This ain't the minority report. We can't arrest or detain folks just because we think they will commit a crime.

No, but on a judge's order, we should be able to take their guns. Temporarily.

 

[Billiejeens]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

Why in the heck would you say such a thing?

Your linked article explains the call, and your evil stoking comment is the problem with the world today...

If the police cant stop mass killings when they have the name of the killer before, the police are useless.

Police really do not prevent crime -
Police respond to crime to document and investigate.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun - CNN

OK, who are you and what have you done with OldLady?

 

[Vastator]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

I agree

We need laws where police can take the guns from those who are a threat to others and themselves

Thank the NRA

Impossible to enforce when merely holding a different viewpoint than a leftist; is interpreted by said leftist, as a credible threat.

 

[pknopp]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun - CNN

The police are not trained to deal with people with mental health issues. We see quite often where they are treated just like anyone else. Bash the autistic man upside the head because he didn't immediately respond to your command.

This needs to change.

Yea they are kid

No they are not.

Treatment Advocacy Center

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

I heard alittle about that. I just don't think there is allot the cops could have done.

Saying that is just not responsible, the FBI also had the both the name of Nikolas Cruse and that he intended to do what he did. Law enforcement failed, but hey they always get the donut

I get it, but in all those cases say they took the guns, what would the news been then? Corrupt FBI confiscating guns! 1776,1776! No frame had been committed. This ain't the minority report. We can't arrest or detain folks just because we think they will commit a crime.

No, but on a judge's order, we should be able to take their guns. Temporarily.

Who decides? A judge with no mental health training whatsoever?

How would you feel if I convinced a judge that your elevator no longer reached the top floor (and it doesn't) and you no longer needed access to the internet to spread lies?

 

[Frannie]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

Why in the heck would you say such a thing?

Your linked article explains the call, and your evil stoking comment is the problem with the world today...

If the police cant stop mass killings when they have the name of the killer before, the police are useless.

Police really do not prevent crime -
Police respond to crime to document and investigate.

So if the police see a shooter in progress they can not stop the crime

Gotcha

 

[Frannie]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun - CNN

The police are not trained to deal with people with mental health issues. We see quite often where they are treated just like anyone else. Bash the autistic man upside the head because he didn't immediately respond to your command.

This needs to change.

Yea they are kid

No they are not.

Treatment Advocacy Center

Police are trained in how to both deal and spot mentally I'll persons, they deal with this every day

What cave do you live in

 

[pknopp]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun - CNN

The police are not trained to deal with people with mental health issues. We see quite often where they are treated just like anyone else. Bash the autistic man upside the head because he didn't immediately respond to your command.

This needs to change.

Yea they are kid

No they are not.

Treatment Advocacy Center

Police are trained in how to both deal and spot mentally I'll persons, they deal with this every day

What cave do you live in

How much supporting evidence for my position do you need? I'd just like to know up front so I do not waste my time?

If you say none will matter, I won't.

 

[Frannie]

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun - CNN

The police are not trained to deal with people with mental health issues. We see quite often where they are treated just like anyone else. Bash the autistic man upside the head because he didn't immediately respond to your command.

This needs to change.

Yea they are kid

No they are not.

Treatment Advocacy Center

Police are trained in how to both deal and spot mentally I'll persons, they deal with this every day

What cave do you live in

How much supporting evidence for my position do you need? I'd just like to know up front so I do not waste my time?

If you say none will matter, I won't.

All police get training in how to spot and deal with special needs people, who routinely break the law.
If your police dept does not they should not be on the road

 

[OldLady]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun - CNN

The police are not trained to deal with people with mental health issues. We see quite often where they are treated just like anyone else. Bash the autistic man upside the head because he didn't immediately respond to your command.

This needs to change.

It's true that police have to deal with the mentally ill every day. Having trained mh professionals on the police force to assist not only with training but to be available to assist when someone is bonkers would be helpful.

 

[pknopp]

The police are not trained to deal with people with mental health issues. We see quite often where they are treated just like anyone else. Bash the autistic man upside the head because he didn't immediately respond to your command.

This needs to change.

Yea they are kid

No they are not.

Treatment Advocacy Center

Police are trained in how to both deal and spot mentally I'll persons, they deal with this every day

What cave do you live in

How much supporting evidence for my position do you need? I'd just like to know up front so I do not waste my time?

If you say none will matter, I won't.

All police get training in how to spot and deal with special needs people, who routinely break the law.
If your police dept does not they should not be on the road

You didn't answer my question. Having "a class" on dealing with the mentally ill is not being trained on how to deal with the mentally ill and there are examples all the time where it's obvious many do not know how to.

How much corroborating evidence do you require?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/el-paso-crusius-gun-warning/index.html

As usual there were tips in place to law enforcement who were felt it more important not to miss their meeting at the donut shop.

CIAO

The mother called the local police concerned that Patrick was buying an AK, but ....
The public safety officer asked the mother twice whether her son was suicidal or had threatened any other persons, which she indicated was not the case, according to Felty.
She thought he was too immature and noted he had no safety training. However that is not illegal, as the police explained.

El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun - CNN

The police are not trained to deal with people with mental health issues. We see quite often where they are treated just like anyone else. Bash the autistic man upside the head because he didn't immediately respond to your command.

This needs to change.

It's true that police have to deal with the mentally ill every day. Having trained mh professionals on the police force to assist not only with training but to be available to assist when someone is bonkers would be helpful.

But if we did that, you wouldn't be out on the street very long!