Pregnant women cant get divorced in Missouri

[Biff_Poindexter]

Extreme Hypocrisy in Missouri Law Essentially Banning Pregnant People From Getting a Divorce

Despite what anti-abortion proponents have been insisting, apparently Missouri divorce law "does not see fetuses as humans."

www.themarysue.com

"A bizarre Missouri law has been getting national attention after a viral tweet and subsequent story from the Riverfront Times revealed a little-known statute essentially barring pregnant people from getting divorced. Under the Missouri law, a pregnant person can still file for divorce, but a judge can and typically does refuse to grant that divorce until they have given birth or are otherwise no longer pregnant, possibly via a miscarriage or abortion, which is, of course, also now a crime in Missouri after six weeks. If that sounds like some dystopian-level archaic misogyny, it definitely is! It’s also dangerous. People who are experiencing intimate partner violence are more at risk of being killed by their abusive partner during pregnancy and homicide is the leading cause of death among pregnant women.

The reason why pregnancy will put divorce proceedings on hold is that courts can’t make custody rulings until the baby has been born. Why? Because, as she puts it, Missouri divorce law “does not see fetuses as humans.” That’s pretty incredible given that Missouri, like so many other states, is investing heavily in the idea of fetal “personhood” as the entire justification for banning abortion."

On the face of it, it seems like a pretty absurd statute...Why should a woman be forced to jump thru more hoops for a finalized divorce just because of her pregnancy status??..As the pregnant woman in this story said, she had to make multiple filings -- which are not free -- and she is a fucking attorney herself, imagine the undue burden any other pregnant woman will have to face....especially when you consider the fact that a state like Missouri has already essentially awarded the fetus, full personhood....so this seems like an easy fix.....

A divorce court judge should not enforce this statute and consider the fetus as a person and grant custody rights to that fetus...If the father has joint custody, the father should be able to have visitation of that fetus like he would any other child....If we aren't willing to do this, it would really look like these laws concerning women are really more based on control of that woman, more than anything else...

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

There's already a thread about this.

Pregnant women cant get divorced in Missouri

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/pregnant-women-cant-get-divorced-in-missouri-38092512 Its like the legal system is stacked against women. Like they are the property of their husbands. There is something dark and sinister going on in the most backward parts of America.

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Pregnant Women Can't Get Divorced in Missouri

The state's divorce law has come under more scrutiny since the overturning of Roe v. Wade

www.riverfronttimes.com

Its like the legal system is stacked against women. Like they are the property of their husbands. There is something dark and sinister going on in the most backward parts of America.

Treating marriage as disposable is one of the most devastating things that western civilization has done to itself, especially where children are involved.

We've known very well, for generations, that children from “broken homes” tend to have worse life outcomes than those raised in intact families with both a father and a mother present.

Society has a very solid vested interest in encouraging marriages, especially those with children, to stay together.

 

[occupied]

Because women are not equal under the law and are becoming less equal all the time.

 

[struth]

Extreme Hypocrisy in Missouri Law Essentially Banning Pregnant People From Getting a Divorce

Despite what anti-abortion proponents have been insisting, apparently Missouri divorce law "does not see fetuses as humans."

www.themarysue.com

"A bizarre Missouri law has been getting national attention after a viral tweet and subsequent story from the Riverfront Times revealed a little-known statute essentially barring pregnant people from getting divorced. Under the Missouri law, a pregnant person can still file for divorce, but a judge can and typically does refuse to grant that divorce until they have given birth or are otherwise no longer pregnant, possibly via a miscarriage or abortion, which is, of course, also now a crime in Missouri after six weeks. If that sounds like some dystopian-level archaic misogyny, it definitely is! It’s also dangerous. People who are experiencing intimate partner violence are more at risk of being killed by their abusive partner during pregnancy and homicide is the leading cause of death among pregnant women.

The reason why pregnancy will put divorce proceedings on hold is that courts can’t make custody rulings until the baby has been born. Why? Because, as she puts it, Missouri divorce law “does not see fetuses as humans.” That’s pretty incredible given that Missouri, like so many other states, is investing heavily in the idea of fetal “personhood” as the entire justification for banning abortion."

On the face of it, it seems like a pretty absurd statute...Why should a woman be forced to jump thru more hoops for a finalized divorce just because of her pregnancy status??..As the pregnant woman in this story said, she had to make multiple filings -- which are not free -- and she is a fucking attorney herself, imagine the undue burden any other pregnant woman will have to face....especially when you consider the fact that a state like Missouri has already essentially awarded the fetus, full personhood....so this seems like an easy fix.....

A divorce court judge should not enforce this statute and consider the fetus as a person and grant custody rights to that fetus...If the father has joint custody, the father should be able to have visitation of that fetus like he would any other child....If we aren't willing to do this, it would really look like these laws concerning women are really more based on control of that woman, more than anything else...

you dembots can’t even define a woman.:.

 

[alexa]

Pregnant Women Can't Get Divorced in Missouri

The state's divorce law has come under more scrutiny since the overturning of Roe v. Wade

www.riverfronttimes.com

Its like the legal system is stacked against women. Like they are the property of their husbands. There is something dark and sinister going on in the most backward parts of America.

Yes, looks like the US is not quite so free as it likes to pretend although its prison population tells you that anyway.

 

[SweetSue92]

This story must be hot in all the Leftie rags. How many threads on this now? And it's a non-story at any rate. Divorce proceedings can start during pg but cannot be completed due to custody concerns. Who gets divorced in under nine months at any rate? Stupid

 

[irosie91]

Or this:

Dan Mizell, an attorney in Lebanon, Missouri, who has been practicing law since 1997, says that certain aspects of the divorce can proceed, but everything having to do with custody of the unborn child is frozen in place until birth or a pregnancy-ending event like a miscarriage. The court can issue temporary orders related to things like dividing up property, Mizell says. "But they can't do a final decree of divorce until she delivers the baby."

still a sad state of affairs-----it is PREGNANCY that sharpens the MIND of a woman----in many
cases it is DIVORCE that protects her child

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Because women are not equal under the law and are becoming less equal all the time.

So can we assume that you believe that pregnant men in Missouri CAN get a divorce?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

So can we assume that you believe that pregnant men in Missouri CAN get a divorce?

Instead of deflecting.....answer the question.....


If a fetus is a person, why can't the father have visitation every other week?

Why prevent him from spending time with his child; just because you fake Christians are too afraid to practice what you preach??

 

[SweetSue92]

still a sad state of affairs-----it is PREGNANCY that sharpens the MIND of a woman----in many
cases it is DIVORCE that protects her child

Or maybe her mind was so dull to begin with she stayed with a domestic abuser until there was a threat of a baby coming on board. Then she finally decided to leave.

Additionally the brain is addled with hormones in pregnancy. Not exactly optimal functioning.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

A lot of states have streamlined the process so people can do it themselves without lawyers. Child support is a perpetual problem in America. A former co-worker had to pay her layer $6500 to collect $6800 in back child support so yes lawyers can make out like bandits. State involvement in collecting it however seems to have made the problems worse, not better. Their solution is pay or throw you in jail was they are doing the enforcement. The result is often that baby momma doesn't want to see baby daddy thrown in jail and being thrown in jail doesn't magically create the money to pay the back support. It worsens the situation. They also tend to be inconsistent about who they pursue and who they don't so someone who just recently had a loss of a job can have them dropping the hammer on them whereas someone who hasn't paid in years just goes about their life scot free.

It's a fucked up system men have created for themselves.....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Pregnant Women Can't Get Divorced in Missouri

The state's divorce law has come under more scrutiny since the overturning of Roe v. Wade

www.riverfronttimes.com

Its like the legal system is stacked against women. Like they are the property of their husbands. There is something dark and sinister going on in the most backward parts of America.

Is Missouri in England?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Or maybe her mind was so dull to begin with she stayed with a domestic abuser until there was a threat of a baby coming on board. Then she finally decided to leave.

Additionally the brain is addled with hormones in pregnancy. Not exactly optimal functioning.

Why is murder the leading cause of death for pregnant women?? Most times at the hands of their spouse/partner? A sad indictment on men -- but yea, that abused woman is weak for staying..she probably had it coming anyway...

 

[SweetSue92]

Because women are not equal under the law and are becoming less equal all the time.

It's your side reducing us to our parts and functions. "Birthing people". "Menstruating people". "Uterus holders" or whatever.

I don't see similar treatment of men, and I surely don't see conservatives using these stupid terms.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It's a fucked up system men have created for themselves.....

And you're not a man?

 

[SweetSue92]

Why is murder the leading cause of death for pregnant women?? Most times at the hands of their spouse/partner? A sad indictment on men -- but yea, that abused woman is weak for staying..she probably had it coming anyway...

Think it over and let us know which way you want it:

1. Women are weak, dumb, and easily led and therefore cannot be assumed to make good decisions for themselves. Therefore, if they stay in a domestic abuse situation, what can we expect? It's not their fault.

or

2. Women, being equally smart and capable as men, are able to act in their best interest and can both prevent and escape domestic abuse situations.

 

[irosie91]

It's your side reducing us to our parts and functions. "Birthing people". "Menstruating people". "Uterus holders" or whatever.

I don't see similar treatment of men, and I surely don't see conservatives using these stupid terms.

Progesterone----IMVO (in my vaunted opinion) induces in the female brain a desire to NURTURE

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yes, looks like the US is not quite so free as it likes to pretend although its prison population tells you that anyway.

I dont understand why women put up with this nonsense.

 

[martybegan]

Or this:

Dan Mizell, an attorney in Lebanon, Missouri, who has been practicing law since 1997, says that certain aspects of the divorce can proceed, but everything having to do with custody of the unborn child is frozen in place until birth or a pregnancy-ending event like a miscarriage. The court can issue temporary orders related to things like dividing up property, Mizell says. "But they can't do a final decree of divorce until she delivers the baby."

So another lie by omission/exaggeration by Tommy Twat.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.