Proggressives next Step.

[frigidweirdo]

And the same can be said of the US. If you're a racist, your "political views" are outlawed and suppressed. By definition means there is no freedom of speech in the US.

Wrong. In Germany you can’t even put together a small group of protesters in public unless you notify the polizei before hand (so they can have double the amount). That and you cannot do anything that the government deems “offensive”. You cannot even flip someone off or say “fuck you”. You cannot wear or display anything the government deems offensive either.

In the US you can be as offensive as you want, it isn’t illegal. So stop being so disingenuous.

You do know what rights are, right? The right to do anything as long as it doesn't hurt or harm others.

But you're claiming that the ability to hurt or harm others is what makes the US free....

right.....

Wrong.

Words do not harm others.

You fail again.

And you can prove that?

Ever heard of bullying?

Yes it is action not expression

Now you're getting into pathetic semantics.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong. In Germany you can’t even put together a small group of protesters in public unless you notify the polizei before hand (so they can have double the amount). That and you cannot do anything that the government deems “offensive”. You cannot even flip someone off or say “fuck you”. You cannot wear or display anything the government deems offensive either.

In the US you can be as offensive as you want, it isn’t illegal. So stop being so disingenuous.

You do know what rights are, right? The right to do anything as long as it doesn't hurt or harm others.

But you're claiming that the ability to hurt or harm others is what makes the US free....

right.....

Wrong. A right is simply an immunity from government persecution.

I never said “harm” to others. I said offend. And no, your hurt feelings doesn’t count as “harm”.

And you're wrong. Hurt feelings can be considered hurt or harm.

Rights are a theory, more than just immunity from government prosecution.

Hurt feelings are the responsibility of those who feel them.
And Germany has no right to freedom of speech

Bullshit and bullshit. Well done.

Wrong. In Germany you can’t even put together a small group of protesters in public unless you notify the polizei before hand (so they can have double the amount). That and you cannot do anything that the government deems “offensive”. You cannot even flip someone off or say “fuck you”. You cannot wear or display anything the government deems offensive either.

In the US you can be as offensive as you want, it isn’t illegal. So stop being so disingenuous.

You do know what rights are, right? The right to do anything as long as it doesn't hurt or harm others.

But you're claiming that the ability to hurt or harm others is what makes the US free....

right.....

Wrong. A right is simply an immunity from government persecution.

I never said “harm” to others. I said offend. And no, your hurt feelings doesn’t count as “harm”.

And you're wrong. Hurt feelings can be considered hurt or harm.

Rights are a theory, more than just immunity from government prosecution.

Hurt feelings are the responsibility of those who feel them.
And Germany has no right to freedom of speech

Bullshit and bullshit. Well done.

Fact and fact

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong. In Germany you can’t even put together a small group of protesters in public unless you notify the polizei before hand (so they can have double the amount). That and you cannot do anything that the government deems “offensive”. You cannot even flip someone off or say “fuck you”. You cannot wear or display anything the government deems offensive either.

In the US you can be as offensive as you want, it isn’t illegal. So stop being so disingenuous.

You do know what rights are, right? The right to do anything as long as it doesn't hurt or harm others.

But you're claiming that the ability to hurt or harm others is what makes the US free....

right.....

Wrong.

Words do not harm others.

You fail again.

And you can prove that?

Ever heard of bullying?

Yes it is action not expression

Now you're getting into pathetic semantics.

The law is very often semantics yes

 

[frigidweirdo]

You do know what rights are, right? The right to do anything as long as it doesn't hurt or harm others.

But you're claiming that the ability to hurt or harm others is what makes the US free....

right.....

Wrong. A right is simply an immunity from government persecution.

I never said “harm” to others. I said offend. And no, your hurt feelings doesn’t count as “harm”.

And you're wrong. Hurt feelings can be considered hurt or harm.

Rights are a theory, more than just immunity from government prosecution.

Hurt feelings are the responsibility of those who feel them.
And Germany has no right to freedom of speech

Bullshit and bullshit. Well done.

You do know what rights are, right? The right to do anything as long as it doesn't hurt or harm others.

But you're claiming that the ability to hurt or harm others is what makes the US free....

right.....

Wrong. A right is simply an immunity from government persecution.

I never said “harm” to others. I said offend. And no, your hurt feelings doesn’t count as “harm”.

And you're wrong. Hurt feelings can be considered hurt or harm.

Rights are a theory, more than just immunity from government prosecution.

Hurt feelings are the responsibility of those who feel them.
And Germany has no right to freedom of speech

Bullshit and bullshit. Well done.

Fact and fact

Tell you what, you post it 1 million times, and then it becomes real.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You do know what rights are, right? The right to do anything as long as it doesn't hurt or harm others.

But you're claiming that the ability to hurt or harm others is what makes the US free....

right.....

Wrong.

Words do not harm others.

You fail again.

And you can prove that?

Ever heard of bullying?

Yes it is action not expression

Now you're getting into pathetic semantics.

The law is very often semantics yes

But is it pathetic semantics, which is what you're pulling?

Of forget it, this conversation is like pulling your fucking eyes out with a toothpick.

I'm done.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong. A right is simply an immunity from government persecution.

I never said “harm” to others. I said offend. And no, your hurt feelings doesn’t count as “harm”.

And you're wrong. Hurt feelings can be considered hurt or harm.

Rights are a theory, more than just immunity from government prosecution.

Hurt feelings are the responsibility of those who feel them.
And Germany has no right to freedom of speech

Bullshit and bullshit. Well done.

Wrong. A right is simply an immunity from government persecution.

I never said “harm” to others. I said offend. And no, your hurt feelings doesn’t count as “harm”.

And you're wrong. Hurt feelings can be considered hurt or harm.

Rights are a theory, more than just immunity from government prosecution.

Hurt feelings are the responsibility of those who feel them.
And Germany has no right to freedom of speech

Bullshit and bullshit. Well done.

Fact and fact

Tell you what, you post it 1 million times, and then it becomes real.

It is real no matter how many times I posted it.

 

[Markle]

There is no freedom of speech in Germany.

Select political views are outlawed and suppressed which by definition means there is no freedom of speech.

And the same can be said of the US. If you're a racist, your "political views" are outlawed and suppressed. By definition means there is no freedom of speech in the US.

Wrong. In Germany you can’t even put together a small group of protesters in public unless you notify the polizei before hand (so they can have double the amount). That and you cannot do anything that the government deems “offensive”. You cannot even flip someone off or say “fuck you”. You cannot wear or display anything the government deems offensive either.

In the US you can be as offensive as you want, it isn’t illegal. So stop being so disingenuous.

You do know what rights are, right? The right to do anything as long as it doesn't hurt or harm others.

But you're claiming that the ability to hurt or harm others is what makes the US free....

right.....

Wrong. A right is simply an immunity from government persecution.

I never said “harm” to others. I said offend. And no, your hurt feelings doesn’t count as “harm”.

And you're wrong. Hurt feelings can be considered hurt or harm.

Rights are a theory, more than just immunity from government prosecution.

Hurt feelings?

 

[hunarcy]

Too damn bad....The system is the same for everyone....You don't lose the World Series 4-3 and complain that you should have won, because you scored more runs in your three wins than the other them did in their four wins.

That people buy into the bullshit arguments put forth by the duopoly, that a vote for anyone outside their fake "choice" is wasted, is the fault of the foolish sheep who fall for it.

The only system worth having, if there is to be one at all, is one that is in charge of so little that it makes no difference who wins any silly election.

"The system is the same for everyone"???

No, it clearly is not.

If you're in Wyoming or California or one of the 38 states in the US that doesn't get a say in who the president it is, it's not the same as those in the 12 states who do get a say. Also, if you're in Puerto Rico, DC or some other place like this they don't even get a vote. Clearly not the same for everyone.

Also, if you're a Republican or Democrat, you get to vote for the Republicans or Democrats. If you're not, you get to vote for.... the Republicans or Democrats.

Oh, that's fair, isn't it? Not.

In Germany you can go vote for your preferred choice of party and know if they make the 5% threshold, then you'll be represented in the Bundestag.

In the US, you could have 30% vote for one party and still get no seats.

In the German elections they have both the US FPTP system and PR. The CDU/CSU (main conservative party) got 77% of the seats with 37.2% of the vote. Are you telling me it's the same for everyone?

The FDP got 7% of the votes and no seats.

But because they have PR also, the CDU went from 77% of the seats to 246 seats out of 709, a FAIR result.

The World Series is a sport. Politics isn't a sport. Why should I be disenfranchised by the system? Why should there be only TWO POLITICAL PARTIES to represent 300 million people?

No, your analogy is wrong. It's like entering the world series and then being told that you can't play because the system says only one of two teams can win, and it isn't your team.

It's not that people buy into the whole "a vote for a third party is a wasted vote", it's that the system encourages this. Because the smaller parties have to get more votes than the larger party EVERY SINGLE TIME.

In Germany they don't. If you get 5% of the vote, you get represented. It's not a fucking game, a tournament. It's about BEING REPRESENTED IN PARLIAMENT.

DEMOCRACY, that's what we're talking. You seem to be talking about a game.

Feel free to move to Germany then. I have to warn you though, there is no freedom of speech and no right to bear arms. However I am sure that is exactly what you would like about it.

There is plenty of freedom of speech. I've lived in Germany.

No right to bear arms, no, but also no right to get shot like the US. It's much safer.

But feel free to continue to misrepresent shit. We were talking about the way people are elected and your response is to talk about other shit.

Care to talk about how people are elected?

There is no freedom of speech in Germany.

Select political views are outlawed and suppressed which by definition means there is no freedom of speech.

And the same can be said of the US. If you're a racist, your "political views" are outlawed and suppressed. By definition means there is no freedom of speech in the US.

You will not be prosecuted for your "political views", even if they are racist.

 

[theHawk]

"The system is the same for everyone"???

No, it clearly is not.

If you're in Wyoming or California or one of the 38 states in the US that doesn't get a say in who the president it is, it's not the same as those in the 12 states who do get a say. Also, if you're in Puerto Rico, DC or some other place like this they don't even get a vote. Clearly not the same for everyone.

Also, if you're a Republican or Democrat, you get to vote for the Republicans or Democrats. If you're not, you get to vote for.... the Republicans or Democrats.

Oh, that's fair, isn't it? Not.

In Germany you can go vote for your preferred choice of party and know if they make the 5% threshold, then you'll be represented in the Bundestag.

In the US, you could have 30% vote for one party and still get no seats.

In the German elections they have both the US FPTP system and PR. The CDU/CSU (main conservative party) got 77% of the seats with 37.2% of the vote. Are you telling me it's the same for everyone?

The FDP got 7% of the votes and no seats.

But because they have PR also, the CDU went from 77% of the seats to 246 seats out of 709, a FAIR result.

The World Series is a sport. Politics isn't a sport. Why should I be disenfranchised by the system? Why should there be only TWO POLITICAL PARTIES to represent 300 million people?

No, your analogy is wrong. It's like entering the world series and then being told that you can't play because the system says only one of two teams can win, and it isn't your team.

It's not that people buy into the whole "a vote for a third party is a wasted vote", it's that the system encourages this. Because the smaller parties have to get more votes than the larger party EVERY SINGLE TIME.

In Germany they don't. If you get 5% of the vote, you get represented. It's not a fucking game, a tournament. It's about BEING REPRESENTED IN PARLIAMENT.

DEMOCRACY, that's what we're talking. You seem to be talking about a game.

Feel free to move to Germany then. I have to warn you though, there is no freedom of speech and no right to bear arms. However I am sure that is exactly what you would like about it.

There is plenty of freedom of speech. I've lived in Germany.

No right to bear arms, no, but also no right to get shot like the US. It's much safer.

But feel free to continue to misrepresent shit. We were talking about the way people are elected and your response is to talk about other shit.

Care to talk about how people are elected?

There is no freedom of speech in Germany.

Select political views are outlawed and suppressed which by definition means there is no freedom of speech.

And the same can be said of the US. If you're a racist, your "political views" are outlawed and suppressed. By definition means there is no freedom of speech in the US.

You will not be prosecuted for your "political views", even if they are racist.

Weirdo thinks that’s a bad thing. His side wants people to be persecuted for having the wrong political views.

 

[hunarcy]

Feel free to move to Germany then. I have to warn you though, there is no freedom of speech and no right to bear arms. However I am sure that is exactly what you would like about it.

There is plenty of freedom of speech. I've lived in Germany.

No right to bear arms, no, but also no right to get shot like the US. It's much safer.

But feel free to continue to misrepresent shit. We were talking about the way people are elected and your response is to talk about other shit.

Care to talk about how people are elected?

There is no freedom of speech in Germany.

Select political views are outlawed and suppressed which by definition means there is no freedom of speech.

And the same can be said of the US. If you're a racist, your "political views" are outlawed and suppressed. By definition means there is no freedom of speech in the US.

You will not be prosecuted for your "political views", even if they are racist.

Weirdo thinks that’s a bad thing. His side wants people to be persecuted for having the wrong political views.

frigidweirdo is just a troll who says things just to get a reaction. I typically ignore his posts...but, I didn't want anyone to believe that your political views might be outlawed and suppressed.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Feel free to move to Germany then. I have to warn you though, there is no freedom of speech and no right to bear arms. However I am sure that is exactly what you would like about it.

There is plenty of freedom of speech. I've lived in Germany.

No right to bear arms, no, but also no right to get shot like the US. It's much safer.

But feel free to continue to misrepresent shit. We were talking about the way people are elected and your response is to talk about other shit.

Care to talk about how people are elected?

There is no freedom of speech in Germany.

Select political views are outlawed and suppressed which by definition means there is no freedom of speech.

And the same can be said of the US. If you're a racist, your "political views" are outlawed and suppressed. By definition means there is no freedom of speech in the US.

You will not be prosecuted for your "political views", even if they are racist.

Weirdo thinks that’s a bad thing. His side wants people to be persecuted for having the wrong political views.

Whereas you want people to dress up in pink tutus, and don't try and say you don't, because I said you do, so I must be right.

 

[2aguy]

It seems that the next step for the Democrats will be to try to stop the appointment to the Appeals Court that number in the hundreds. If the President can fill many of them during his term it will change further the America that we want to save. The Proggressives will try to stop them tho.

They are working themselves up to violence...of an extreme nature...this is not a teenager in college.....living in their parent's basement.....and this isn't the only nut job out there....

Minnesota Teacher: Let's Murder Kavanaugh!