Putin Interview Did you watch?

[martybegan]

What we think of as Russia properly without all its annexation...(USSR and recent)
Is actually a collection of 9 "ethnic" tribal groups.
And these 9 were not collected peacefully either....it was by conflict. (Just because they all are rather "Caucasian" doesn't mean they are the same.

So...where the Tartar's (Ukrainian) homelands are originally actually includes a good sized chunk of Western Russia today. (If we go back that far)

Russia is a melting pot of people much like the USA is....in all truth.

But that original 9 is where Russia started.

Do you consider Georgians and Byelorussians Russian?

 

[JohnDB]

Do you consider Georgians and Byelorussians Russian?

No. They aren't Russian originally.

Much of these people's cultures were for all intent and purposes were erased by communism. Their heritages were deemed "illegal" by communism because they were treasonous ideologies. Much like Christianity was deemed to be treasonous.

However, considering the treatment by their bishop/cardinal of the RCC....not very difficult to find that logic somewhat reasonable. The Romanians were rather brutal. (Carpathian mountains are also a very brutal place) The fighting over scraps in that area had never once been properly addressed. And the Church did NOTHING even though they held all the tax revenue and had the soldiers.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Quite interesting, it is not an easy watch.
Especially for folks who have yet to watch how new media operates, meaning unedited and therefore quite long.
We are use to watching only what the respective media wants us to see.
It is important to remember, that most interviews are actually much like this one... where the interviewed answer for extended periods, but we see it heavily edited, giving the impression that the interviewer interrupted often etc. When they didn't.

So - ask yourself, are you interested in seeing an entire interview - or one where you are only given what someone wants you to see?

The video:

 

[JWBooth]

”They told you Putin was on his deathbed & Biden was the pinnacle of health

They told you the Ghost of Kyiv took out 6 fighter jets

They told you Russia bombed Poland

Now they'll tell you Tucker is a propagandist & Putin lied about everything

You already know who the liars are” ~ Clint Russell

 

[1srelluc]

Dupe....Already a two page thread on it.....The answers you seek are there.

Putin Interview Did you watch?

Did you watch the interview? What was your take on things after watching it? What did you think was right, wrong, or indifferent? If you haven't seen it....

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[iamwhatiseem]

There is a lot to get from this, a LOT of information here.
One one hand, of course you know that Putin is only going to say what is in his favor, and what agrees with what his actions have been etc.
However, there is new information here and a view that is not what is presented to us via our own controlled media.

For one - Putin is clearly living in the past, and that is not a surprise. I think most informed people already knew this. Secondly, how he sees things is not our perspective. Is not our incentive. But that doesn't make it 100% wrong. As I have said all along, Putin is not the only villain in the room. He is a villain. No doubt.
But is he a villain who acted without any cause? At all?
Or is he a villain that acted partly due to the actions of other villains?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Dupe....Already a two page thread on it.....The answers you seek are there.

Putin Interview Did you watch?

Did you watch the interview? What was your take on things after watching it? What did you think was right, wrong, or indifferent? If you haven't seen it....

www.usmessageboard.com

I specifically searched first. But the search word I used was Carlson, not Putin.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I could have sworn Poot was about to die from cancer 3 years ago.

He looks better than Biden, for sure.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Quite interesting, it is not an easy watch.
Especially for folks who have yet to watch how new media operates, meaning unedited and therefore quite long.
We are use to watching only what the respective media wants us to see.
It is important to remember, that most interviews are actually much like this one... where the interviewed answer for extended periods, but we see it heavily edited, giving the impression that the interviewer interrupted often etc. When they didn't.

So - ask yourself, are you interested in seeing an entire interview - or one where you are only given what someone wants you to see?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

There is a lot to get from this, a LOT of information here.
One one hand, of course you know that Putin is only going to say what is in his favor, and what agrees with what his actions have been etc.
However, there is new information here and a view that is not what is presented to us via our own controlled media.

For one - Putin is clearly living in the past, and that is not a surprise. I think most informed people already knew this. Secondly, how he sees things is not our perspective. Is not our incentive. But that doesn't make it 100% wrong. As I have said all along, Putin is not the only villain in the room. He is a villain. No doubt.
But is he a villain who acted without any cause? At all?
Or is he a villain that acted partly due to the actions of other villains?

 

[jwoodie]

I can't wait for Dont Taz Me Troll to delete this video.

 

[JohnDB]

Tuckers own assessment of the interview.

And I have to say that I knew Tucker was something of an idiot...but this assessment proves it. Where he does have one salient point(american bungling of nation building) ....his overall assessment and blindness concerning communist dictatorships is rather frightening. Not that Tucker is in leadership...but that people actually believe in his ideologies. Which is the scariest thing of all.

 

[martybegan]

No. They aren't Russian originally.

Much of these people's cultures were for all intent and purposes were erased by communism. Their heritages were deemed "illegal" by communism because they were treasonous ideologies. Much like Christianity was deemed to be treasonous.

However, considering the treatment by their bishop/cardinal of the RCC....not very difficult to find that logic somewhat reasonable. The Romanians were rather brutal. (Carpathian mountains are also a very brutal place) The fighting over scraps in that area had never once been properly addressed. And the Church did NOTHING even though they held all the tax revenue and had the soldiers.

And those cultures are coming back with a vengeance.

Yet we all got the Germans to agree to stay on their side of the rivers from now on. And France and Germany don't fight over their borders anymore either.

Russia has to learn to play nice, and try imperialism the way we do it, with Big Macs and Blue Jeans.

 

[Foxfyre]

Quite interesting, it is not an easy watch.
Especially for folks who have yet to watch how new media operates, meaning unedited and therefore quite long.
We are use to watching only what the respective media wants us to see.
It is important to remember, that most interviews are actually much like this one... where the interviewed answer for extended periods, but we see it heavily edited, giving the impression that the interviewer interrupted often etc. When they didn't.

So - ask yourself, are you interested in seeing an entire interview - or one where you are only given what someone wants you to see?

The video:

When I was in college, free speech was the norm. That meant that our college auditorium featured many speakers offering all manner of perspectives and students were encouraged--sometimes were assigned as homework--to attend. So we heard from Russian communists defending communism, from McCarthists, from anti-McCarthyists, from Birchers, from anti-Birchers, from classical liberals explaining how supply sided free markets work, etc. Any student who disrespected any of these speakers would be severely reprimanded or, if serious enough, expelled.

I'm pretty sure that none of us of that era became in any way Marxist in our thinking, none became more or less pro government, pretty much all of us--black, white, brown or whatever--became normal Americans sharing basic American values.

Those that now condemn Carlson for that interview haven't the foggiest notion of what free speech is supposed to be. And they are all propagandists who defend ideology or political prejudices rather than have any interest in all the facts and information.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

When I was in college, free speech was the norm. That meant that our college auditorium featured many speakers offering all manner of perspectives and students were encouraged--sometimes were assigned as homework--to attend. So we heard from Russian communists defending communism, from McCarthists, from anti-McCarthyists, from Birchers, from anti-Birchers, from classical liberals explaining how supply sided free markets work, etc. Any student who disrespected any of these speakers would be severely reprimanded or, if serious enough, expelled.

I'm pretty sure that none of us of that era became in any way Marxist in our thinking, none became more or less pro government, pretty much all of us--black, white, brown or whatever--became normal Americans sharing basic American values.

Those that now condemn Carlson for that interview haven't the foggiest notion of what free speech is supposed to be. And they are all propagandists who defend ideology or political prejudices rather than have any interest in all the facts and information.

 

[Magnus]

Quite interesting, it is not an easy watch.
Especially for folks who have yet to watch how new media operates, meaning unedited and therefore quite long.
We are use to watching only what the respective media wants us to see.
It is important to remember, that most interviews are actually much like this one... where the interviewed answer for extended periods, but we see it heavily edited, giving the impression that the interviewer interrupted often etc. When they didn't.

So - ask yourself, are you interested in seeing an entire interview - or one where you are only given what someone wants you to see?

The video:

Gasp! An entire history lesson on Russia's past glories? What luck. Thank God we have the "New" media and the great Putin to help us out. How else would we get this much-needed info?

 

[JohnDB]

And those cultures are coming back with a vengeance.

Yet we all got the Germans to agree to stay on their side of the rivers from now on. And France and Germany don't fight over their borders anymore either.

Russia has to learn to play nice, and try imperialism the way we do it, with Big Macs and Blue Jeans.

Yeah...
Not so sure about that....

The world is a messy place for sure. The USA was once a very unique nation that prized the working together under the goal of freedom more importantly than their own individual desires....we have lost that.

Russia under Communist Dictator Putin is trying to make something similar happen but at the muzzle barrel of a gun instead of willing attitudes.

Strong leaders are just that...leaders that people willingly follow. Sometimes the needs of a few are stepped upon to achieve those goals but the masses are very willing and supportive. Ukraine has never been willing. Neither has any of Russia been very willing. They just got tired of fighting and found that they could survive if they stopped....they couldn't really prosper but they could survive.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Gasp! An entire history lesson on Russia's past glories? What luck. Thank God we have the "New" media and the great Putin to help us out. How else would we get this much-needed info?

Then you only watched about 20 minutes of it.
Which means you know nothing.

 

[martybegan]

Yeah...
Not so sure about that....

The world is a messy place for sure. The USA was once a very unique nation that prized the working together under the goal of freedom more importantly than their own individual desires....we have lost that.

Russia under Communist Dictator Putin is trying to make something similar happen but at the muzzle barrel of a gun instead of willing attitudes.

Strong leaders are just that...leaders that people willingly follow. Sometimes the needs of a few are stepped upon to achieve those goals but the masses are very willing and supportive. Ukraine has never been willing. Neither has any of Russia been very willing. They just got tired of fighting and found that they could survive if they stopped....they couldn't really prosper but they could survive.

Eastern Europe is still only a few decades away from being dominated by communism, so they still remember what happened and still go towards their old cultures. the peaceful break of Czechoslovakia and the less peaceful break of Yugoslavia show that.

Putin is more like a Czar than a communist.

Russians, actual Russians seem to mostly be going along with Putin. Something in their national character still appeals to the strongman.

 

[Magnus]

Then you only watched about 20 minutes of it.
Which means you know nothing.

Did the great Tucker challenge Putin in his claim that he was justified in invading Ukraine?

Did the great Tucker ask Putin why he has imprisoned anyone who has opposed him without a trial?

Did the great Tucker ask Putin why he murdered has murdered scores of journalists/businessmen/opponents?

Please point it out to me. I will go back and watch. Go.