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I have heard the term "mass shooting" is defined as a shooting where there are multiple victims. I have also heard it defined as 4 or more victims to be defined as a mass shooting. Multiple victims could be two. Do they count these drive by shootings by these gangs in the inner cities as mass shootings? Is it fair to count them in the statistics? What we hear from the media is that there is a mass shooting daily in the US. If they do count these gang drive by shootings then I consider the count very low and what I consider a mass shooting as extremely rare.
A very comforting platitude to the families of those victims in Oregon, don't you think?
Who goes hunting for the shooter?If I was armed? I'd probably gather as many people as I could in a room and stand at the door in defense. Running around looking for the shooter is a bad idea because you could be possibly identified as a hostile and shot.
Besides................you'd probably only get in the way of the SWAT. Gathering as many as you can and defending them is a much better option.
Why did you put charming in quotes? You did not put erudite in quotes. That means I must be erudite.
Oh, you certainly are....a virtual paragon of right wing wisdom.
He is defining the term. Your emotion is misplaced is having a definition of discussion.
He is defining the term. Your emotion is misplaced is having a definition of discussion.
My point was and is that "defining" the term "mass shooting/killings" is an exercise in inanity for those families affected by the carnage
Why is that? They are the ones most affected.
I carry a concealed firearm solely for my self-defense and that of my immediate family; I am not 'law enforcement,' my primary responsibility in the event of such an incident is to get to a place of safety, out of harm's way, where my concealed firearm remains indeed concealed.During an incident at a community college (or a bar or a rock festival or a mall) there's a report of someone shooting at people and the police respond......
Now, the venue has a concealed carry ordinance and a whole bunch of other people grab their guns .........and the police SWAT team shows up......
Can you fathom WHAT THE HELL could possibly go wrong in that scenario???
I have heard the term "mass shooting" is defined as a shooting where there are multiple victims. I have also heard it defined as 4 or more victims to be defined as a mass shooting. Multiple victims could be two. Do they count these drive by shootings by these gangs in the inner cities as mass shootings? Is it fair to count them in the statistics? What we hear from the media is that there is a mass shooting daily in the US. If they do count these gang drive by shootings then I consider the count very low and what I consider a mass shooting as extremely rare.
A very comforting platitude to the families of those victims in Oregon, don't you think?
I guess the point I was attempting to make is that these mass shootings are extremely rare which is much different than the reporting from the media.I have heard the term "mass shooting" is defined as a shooting where there are multiple victims. I have also heard it defined as 4 or more victims to be defined as a mass shooting. Multiple victims could be two. Do they count these drive by shootings by these gangs in the inner cities as mass shootings? Is it fair to count them in the statistics? What we hear from the media is that there is a mass shooting daily in the US. If they do count these gang drive by shootings then I consider the count very low and what I consider a mass shooting as extremely rare.
A very comforting platitude to the families of those victims in Oregon, don't you think?
My advice to you is give it up. Gun grabbing is reeeling. People recognize common sense.My honest advice to all you gun-toting, concealed-carry right wingers.......:
Make sure you ALWAYS wear a white hat....so that all your other gun-toting buddies will know that you're one of the good guys.....
(of course, lets hope that the maniacs out there avoid the color white.)
Equating concealed carriers with mass shooters? Now that's logical.My advice to you is give it up
Good advice......My wife and I have a dinner date......
Hopefully, no gun-toting maniacs at the venue.
During an incident at a community college (or a bar or a rock festival or a mall) there's a report of someone shooting at people and the police respond......
Now, the venue has a concealed carry ordinance and a whole bunch of other people grab their guns .........and the police SWAT team shows up......
Can you fathom WHAT THE HELL could possibly go wrong in that scenario???
Just remember...My advice to you is give it up
Good advice......My wife and I have a dinner date......
Hopefully, no gun-toting maniacs at the venue.
I also CC, and I would hide too. The only scenario I see where I would shoot someone is if I was directly being shot at, OR, SAW the shooter actively shooting and I had a chance to take him/her/it out, I would. I would not go about trying to FIND the shooter. I'd cover my ass and anyone around me, that's it.I carry a concealed firearm solely for my self-defense and that of my immediate family; I am not 'law enforcement,' my primary responsibility in the event of such an incident is to get to a place of safety, out of harm's way, where my concealed firearm remains indeed concealed.During an incident at a community college (or a bar or a rock festival or a mall) there's a report of someone shooting at people and the police respond......
Now, the venue has a concealed carry ordinance and a whole bunch of other people grab their guns .........and the police SWAT team shows up......
Can you fathom WHAT THE HELL could possibly go wrong in that scenario???
During an incident at a community college (or a bar or a rock festival or a mall) there's a report of someone shooting at people and the police respond......
Now, the venue has a concealed carry ordinance and a whole bunch of other people grab their guns .........and the police SWAT team shows up......
Can you fathom WHAT THE HELL could possibly go wrong in that scenario???
The original shooter would be dead, the CCW people would have a beer with the cops