R.I.P. "Never-Trump" movement, 2015-2024

[airplanemechanic]

www.nytimes.com · 2024/12/17 · usTrump Picks Herschel Walker to Be Ambassador to the Bahamas​

1 day ago · President-elect Donald J. Trump selected Herschel Walker on Tuesday to be the U.S. ambassador to the small Caribbean nation of the Bahamas, turning to a longtime ally and former........

Mr. Walker has no previous diplomatic experience, and no obvious ties to the Bahamas, an island nation of about 400,000 people just off the coast of Florida.

Do you even KNOW who Biden's pick for ambassador to the Bahamas was? WITHOUT googling it?

 

[elektra]

Do you even KNOW who Biden's pick for ambassador to the Bahamas was? WITHOUT googling it?

No, does Biden?

 

[airplanemechanic]

No, does Biden?

Of course not.

Nobody knows and nobody cares.

 

[elektra]

Of course not.

Nobody knows and nobody cares.

Biden appointed the ambassador, he should know or biden should be replaced

 

[j-mac]

The NT crowd aren’t gone. They’ll start out running the 2016 playbook against Trump, but will quickly learn this is Trump 2.0….

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Do you even KNOW who Biden's pick for ambassador to the Bahamas was? WITHOUT googling it?

She has more experience than Walker and can speak English.
Walker............Not so much.

 

[airplanemechanic]

She has more experience than Walker and can speak English.
Walker............Not so much.

Who is she?

In May 2022, President Biden nominated Calvin Smyre for the position. He had zero foreign experience too. But then, HE WAS BLACK.

Trump nominates a black and you still bitch? When Biden nominates blacks who aren't qualified, it's "progressive." When Trump does it, it's stupid.

Double standard much?

 

[SeaMajor7]

thehill.com · regulation · court-battlesNY AG won’t toss multimillion-dollar Trump civil fraud judgment​

Dec 10, 2024 · The New York attorney general’s office said Tuesday it will not drop its multimillion-dollar civil fraud case against President-elect Trump, despite his request.

Today, the president-elect, Trump Organization and top executives — including his sons Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump — owe more than $497 million with interest, which has continued to accrue while they appeal.

Your last gasp at Soviet LAWFARE will not work, dOPey.
The American People have spoken and overwhelmingly REJECTED you Marxist Leninist zombie ASSHOLES.
Poor dOPey.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Who is she?

Google?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Your last gasp at Soviet LAWFARE will not work, dOPey.
The American People have spoken and overwhelmingly REJECTED you Marxist Leninist zombie ASSHOLES.
Poor dOPey.

Poor SeaSwab.

Your communist dear leader had Musk' satellites change the votes.

 

[Lisa558]

That's absolutely true. No matter what you tell these people or how you explain to them that they are being manipulated by a lying media, they just continue to drink the Kool-Aid as fast as it comes out of the spigot.

I will be meeting with a brainwashed ledtist tomorrow and I’ve tried telling her before that the media has been lying to her about Trump being a dictator. She refuses to believe it.

This is where Trump’s lawsuits against the lying media is most helpful. It’s not in the $15 million that ABC has to cough up, or the other pending cases. It brings to the forefront how dishonest the media has been -he’s a rapist! He’s like Hitler! His supporters are like Nazis! - and gives ammunition to debate with the brainwashed masses.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Google?

Yea I didn't think you knew who it was, either.

So answer the question. When Biden nominates an unqualified black, you fully support it and call it "progressive." If Trump does it, you don't support it, and call him stupid.

Why the double standard?

 

[Lisa558]

The NT crowd aren’t gone. They’ll start out running the 2016 playbook against Trump, but will quickly learn this is Trump 2.0….

Things are different this time, and Trump sees it. He even said that last time, everyone was fighting him - and this time, they’re with him.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Poor SeaSwab.

Your communist dear leader had Musk' satellites change the votes.

 

[kyzr]

Of course not.

Nobody knows and nobody cares.

Actually, why do we even have an embassy there?
I hope Elon and Vivek close small embassys, and setup virtual embassys and save a few more $billion.

 

[Independent thinker]

The "Never-Trumper" coalition is dead. It's over. While they were yammering about "fascism" and "protect muh democracy" and voting for Kamala Harris, what ordinary people really cared about this year were the high cost of living and the chaos at the border.

Done With Never Trump​

"It’s been more than nine years since I first denounced Donald Trump as a “loudmouth vulgarian appealing to quieter vulgarians.” I’ve called myself a Never Trump conservative ever since, even when I agreed with his policies from time to time. I also opposed him throughout his run this year.

Could his second term be as bad as his most fervent critics fear? Yes. Is it time to drop the heavy moralizing and incessant doomsaying that typified so much of the Never Trump movement — and that rendered it politically impotent and frequently obtuse? Yes, please.

Who, and what, is Trump? He’s a man and the symbol of a movement. The man is crass but charismatic, ignorant but intuitive, dishonest but authentic. The movement is patriotic — and angry.

Some of that anger is intensely bigoted and some of it misplaced. That side of the anger gets most of the media’s attention. But some of it, too, is correctly directed at a self-satisfied elite that thinks it knows better but often doesn’t, whether the subject is Covid restrictions, immigration policy or how to get our allies to pay more for their defense.

It’s Trump’s sulfurous contempt for that elite — his refusal to be shaped by their norms or shamed by their scorn and his willingness to call out their hypocrisy — that makes him a hero to his followers. Cases in point: How come so many who denounce Trump as a sexual predator were, 20 years earlier, Bill Clinton’s steadfast defenders? Why were the same people who demanded investigations into every corner of the Trump family’s business dealings so incurious about the Biden family’s dealings, like the curiously high prices for Hunter’s paintings?

Never Trumpers — I include myself in this indictment — never quite got the point. It wasn’t that we’d forgotten Clinton’s scandals or were ignorant of the allegations about the Bidens. It’s that we thought Trump degraded the values that conservatives were supposed to stand for. We also thought that Trump represented a form of illiberalism that was antithetical to our “free people, free markets, free world” brand of conservatism and that was bound to take the Republican Party down a dark road.

In this we weren’t wrong: There’s plenty to dislike and fear about Trump from a traditionally conservative standpoint. But Never Trumpers also overstated our case and, in doing so, defeated our purpose.

How so? We warned that Trump would be a reckless president who might stumble into World War III. If anything, his foreign policy in his first term was, in practice, often cautious to a fault. We hyperventilated about his odd chumminess with Vladimir Putin. But the collusion allegations were a smear, and Trump’s Russia policy — whether it was his opposition to the Nord Stream 2 pipeline or his covert aid to Ukraine — was much tougher than either Barack Obama’s or (at least until Russia invaded Ukraine) President Biden’s.

We predicted that Trump’s rhetoric would wreck the Republican Party’s chances to win over the constituencies the party had identified, after 2012, as key to its future. But we missed that his working-class appeal would also reach working-class minorities — like the 48 percent of Latino male voters who cast their ballots for him last month. And we were alarmed by Trump’s protectionism and big-spending ways. But the economy mostly thrived under him, at least until the pandemic.

We also talked a lot about democracy. That’s important: The memory of Jan. 6 and Trump’s 2020 election lies were the main reasons I voted for Kamala Harris. But if democracy means anything, it’s that ordinary people, not elites, get to decide how important an event like Jan. 6 is to them. Turns out, not so much.

What ordinary people really cared about this year were the high cost of living and the chaos at the border. Why did Trump — so often deprecated by his critics as a fortunate fool — understand this so well while we fecklessly carried on about the soul of the nation?

What else did we not sufficiently appreciate? That, as much as Trump might lie, Americans also felt lied to by the left — particularly when it came to the White House cover-up of Biden’s physical and mental decline. That, as bigoted as elements of the MAGA world can be, there is plenty of bigotry to go around — not least in the torrent of Israel-bashing and antisemitism that emerged from the cultural left after Oct. 7. That, as much as we fear Trump could wreck some of our institutions, whether it’s higher education or the F.B.I., many of those institutions are already broken and may need to be reconceived or replaced.

So here’s a thought for Trump’s perennial critics, including those of us on the right: Let’s enter the new year by wishing the new administration well, by giving some of Trump’s cabinet picks the benefit of the doubt, by dropping the lurid historical comparisons to past dictators, by not sounding paranoid about the ever-looming end of democracy, by hoping for the best and knowing that we need to fight the wrongs that are real and not merely what we fear, that whatever happens, this too shall pass.

Enjoy the holidays."

Opinion | Done With Never Trump

What I find interesting is that many on the left (and some on the right) seem to have settled into the mindset of letting Trump have his four years and then the country will be done with him. All of this after constantly droning on and on that Trump will make himself dictator for life on day one, take democracy away, and eliminate elections. Now, all of a sudden, they are looking forward to 2026 and 2028, the very same years they claimed would never happen if Trump won.

 

[The Duke]

No, does Biden?

Definitely not, and his handlers need prosecuted.
That was a bad thing they did to America. Wizard of Oz presidency.
Fake election with full media and big tech support.

 

[j-mac]

Things are different this time, and Trump sees it. He even said that last time, everyone was fighting him - and this time, they’re with him.

I wonder how Kamala feels watching all of her doners visit MAL to kiss the ring….

 

[Lisa558]

Actually, why do we even have an embassy there?
I hope Elon and Vivek close small embassys, and setup virtual embassys and save a few more $billion.

THEN you’ll hear the libs scream about how bad remote work is!

 

[JoeB131]

I for one hope the dems (and the few RINOs left) continue with their hate-filled vitriol.....It will only serve the sane well in the mid-terms.

by the time the midterms roll around, we'll be in a full-fledged recession.

Then they'll be throwing out Republicans in droves.