Rand Paul Unleashes LIVE On Senate Floor – Names Whistleblower Eric Ciaramella 5 Times

Other than trying to get the guy killed, what possible purpose does it serve?

For crying out loud, you people were bitching for five years because McConnell stated he wanted to see DumBama as a one-term President. Here you have a guy trying to undermine the Trump presidency, and no problem at all. Why? Because he's a Republican.

I could only imagine if we did anything like this to Obama. There would have been riots in the street.
A very wrong thing to do.
Why?

Because it was unnecessary, potentially illegal, put's his life and his family in jeopardy. Everything in the report was independently verified. The only reason to do this is to ruin a man's life for doing the right thing and reporting on something even his superiors agreed was credible.

You guys are just nuts.

Think of precedents - if we can't protect whistle blowers reporting on unethical conduct from our government - who will take the risk of reporting?

What is so weird is it's typically the RIGHT that takes the position of checks and balance on the government. Things have certainly changed.
Precedents? Those got thrown out the window after they violated Trump's lawyer/client confidentiality. Now anything goes

Anything.
Seems like THAT is what happened. There was no "Original Crime" here to merit the Muller farce. With Nixon there was a burglary. With Whitewater there was a Land Fraud deal. Here? Nothing.

Investigations don't start out with the assumption of a crime - they start out to investigate whether or not a crime took place or, for that matter, wrong doing of some sort. Given that Russian interference was confirmed, multiple times, and weakness' in our electoral systems and that of other nations, exposed - an investigation was absolutely merited. It did not have to find a crime, but it did need to occur.
So you agree Quid Pro Joe and his crackhead son need to be investigated for the millions crackhead was paid for a no-show job he was unqualified for while Quid Pro was in charge of billions of our tax dollars going to the corrupt regime in the Ukraine, right

Or are you a ginormous hypocrite?
 
He’s going to be killed?? Huh

Why else would Paul consider it necessary to reveal who he is?

Sends a message to future whistleblowers
He does not meet the standard for a whistle blower.

Accusers cannot hide behind their accusations.

.
Of course they can
You liberals need to stop relying on the government for protection stand up and be a man

Oh. Wait. Retaliation is now a good thing. I wonder if we are going to get more vigilante pizza shop style shootings.

What pizza shop shootings?

You may be thinking of the leftist Bernie supporter who shot up the entire Republican baseball team.
 
A very wrong thing to do.
Why?

Because it was unnecessary, potentially illegal, put's his life and his family in jeopardy. Everything in the report was independently verified. The only reason to do this is to ruin a man's life for doing the right thing and reporting on something even his superiors agreed was credible.

You guys are just nuts.

Think of precedents - if we can't protect whistle blowers reporting on unethical conduct from our government - who will take the risk of reporting?

What is so weird is it's typically the RIGHT that takes the position of checks and balance on the government. Things have certainly changed.
The report was 90% lies. The idea that any Republican is going to assassinate this douchebag doesn't pass the laugh test. Democrats do that kind of thing, not Republicans.

When did Obama protect whistleblowers reporting on his administration?

Answer: never.

the IG stated that the WB was credible & the info they gave was corroborated.
 
A very wrong thing to do.
Why?

Because it was unnecessary, potentially illegal, put's his life and his family in jeopardy. Everything in the report was independently verified. The only reason to do this is to ruin a man's life for doing the right thing and reporting on something even his superiors agreed was credible.

You guys are just nuts.

Think of precedents - if we can't protect whistle blowers reporting on unethical conduct from our government - who will take the risk of reporting?

What is so weird is it's typically the RIGHT that takes the position of checks and balance on the government. Things have certainly changed.
But the question he asked never labeled him as the whistle blower, just as a person who was caught talking about impeaching trump with a Adam schiff staff member. Who’s also friends with the vindermans... it’s a legit question.. why was Adam schiff satff talking about it and is schiff aware.

got an unbiased credible link?
 
Why else would Paul consider it necessary to reveal who he is?

Sends a message to future whistleblowers
He does not meet the standard for a whistle blower.

Accusers cannot hide behind their accusations.

.
Of course they can
You liberals need to stop relying on the government for protection stand up and be a man

Oh. Wait. Retaliation is now a good thing. I wonder if we are going to get more vigilante pizza shop style shootings.

What pizza shop shootings?

You may be thinking of the leftist Bernie supporter who shot up the entire Republican baseball team.

pizzagate.
 
He does not meet the standard for a whistle blower.

Accusers cannot hide behind their accusations.

.
Of course they can
You liberals need to stop relying on the government for protection stand up and be a man

Oh. Wait. Retaliation is now a good thing. I wonder if we are going to get more vigilante pizza shop style shootings.

What pizza shop shootings?

You may be thinking of the leftist Bernie supporter who shot up the entire Republican baseball team.

pizzagate.
Oh, you said "shootingS"

And all you really have is one nutjob who did this:

On December 4, 2016, Edgar Maddison Welch, a 28-year-old man from Salisbury, North Carolina, arrived at Comet Ping Pong and fired three shots from an AR-15-style rifle that struck the restaurant's walls, a desk, and a door
 
A very wrong thing to do.
Why?

Because it was unnecessary, potentially illegal, put's his life and his family in jeopardy. Everything in the report was independently verified. The only reason to do this is to ruin a man's life for doing the right thing and reporting on something even his superiors agreed was credible.

You guys are just nuts.

Think of precedents - if we can't protect whistle blowers reporting on unethical conduct from our government - who will take the risk of reporting?

What is so weird is it's typically the RIGHT that takes the position of checks and balance on the government. Things have certainly changed.
He's not a whistleblower. He was a rumor spreader.

A rumor that turned out to be true
Exactly what rumor has been proven true?
 
A very wrong thing to do.
Why?

Because it was unnecessary, potentially illegal, put's his life and his family in jeopardy. Everything in the report was independently verified. The only reason to do this is to ruin a man's life for doing the right thing and reporting on something even his superiors agreed was credible.

You guys are just nuts.

Think of precedents - if we can't protect whistle blowers reporting on unethical conduct from our government - who will take the risk of reporting?

What is so weird is it's typically the RIGHT that takes the position of checks and balance on the government. Things have certainly changed.
Whistle blowers that are politically aligned with a party is of suspicious nature. And there were attacks on people, people in public places, and their property and going in their property during the last couple years of Obama's Presidency and the first couple years of Trump's. By Antifa and BLM or people who supported them. More and more weapons are being purchased. If someone is in a restaurant and a group comes in threatening them, do they have the right to pull out a handgun and start shooting?


There is no indication that this whistle blower is partisan in his report. As has been repeatedly pointed out - the report was found CREDIBLE by multiple investigators. Further - testimony and records supported each of the points. So whether or not the whistle blower had ulterior motives (which frankly seems to be assigned to ANY one who dares raise objection to what Trump does) is irrelevant - the facts stand and support the report independent of who wrote it. That should and did spark an investigation.

What's happening now is nothing short of a vendetta against him, and it's disturbing.

So suddenly, now, death threats and violence against government whistle blowers is acceptable? There is a reason we have laws and rules in place protecting them and that reason has nothing to do with this one person, but all the persons going on from here.

You want to be able to hold our government accountable? Well left and right, from media to whistle blowers, you are chopping down the trees.
Whistleblower Overheard Talking Trump Impeachment Two Weeks After Inauguration | Rush Limbaugh | iHeartRadio

There are consequences for starting a Civil War

oxyboy is your link? :auiqs.jpg: he's a bloated draft dodging liar.
 
Other than trying to get the guy killed, what possible purpose does it serve?

For crying out loud, you people were bitching for five years because McConnell stated he wanted to see DumBama as a one-term President. Here you have a guy trying to undermine the Trump presidency, and no problem at all. Why? Because he's a Republican.

I could only imagine if we did anything like this to Obama. There would have been riots in the street.


Undermining?

He reported on potentially illegal acts. Every item was independently confirmed. He did so through the right channels, and his report was deemed credible by his superiors.

But wait - it's Trump. Any whistle blower complaints about Trump is automatically "illicit".

You are essentially saying there can be no checks and balances on this presidents behavior from any quarter: from Congress, from the media, from civil servants. Checks and balances are now "coups".
He had zero first hand knowledge.

& the IG investigated the people he named & found him & them to be credible.
 
Other than trying to get the guy killed, what possible purpose does it serve?

For crying out loud, you people were bitching for five years because McConnell stated he wanted to see DumBama as a one-term President. Here you have a guy trying to undermine the Trump presidency, and no problem at all. Why? Because he's a Republican.

I could only imagine if we did anything like this to Obama. There would have been riots in the street.


Undermining?

He reported on potentially illegal acts. Every item was independently confirmed. He did so through the right channels, and his report was deemed credible by his superiors.

But wait - it's Trump. Any whistle blower complaints about Trump is automatically "illicit".

You are essentially saying there can be no checks and balances on this presidents behavior from any quarter: from Congress, from the media, from civil servants. Checks and balances are now "coups".
He had zero first hand knowledge.

& the IG investigated the people he named & found him & them to be credible.
So? He isn't a whistleblower without first hand knowledge.
 
Other than trying to get the guy killed, what possible purpose does it serve?

For crying out loud, you people were bitching for five years because McConnell stated he wanted to see DumBama as a one-term President. Here you have a guy trying to undermine the Trump presidency, and no problem at all. Why? Because he's a Republican.

I could only imagine if we did anything like this to Obama. There would have been riots in the street.

Because it was unnecessary, potentially illegal, put's his life and his family in jeopardy. Everything in the report was independently verified. The only reason to do this is to ruin a man's life for doing the right thing and reporting on something even his superiors agreed was credible.

You guys are just nuts.

Think of precedents - if we can't protect whistle blowers reporting on unethical conduct from our government - who will take the risk of reporting?

What is so weird is it's typically the RIGHT that takes the position of checks and balance on the government. Things have certainly changed.
Precedents? Those got thrown out the window after they violated Trump's lawyer/client confidentiality. Now anything goes

Anything.
Seems like THAT is what happened. There was no "Original Crime" here to merit the Muller farce. With Nixon there was a burglary. With Whitewater there was a Land Fraud deal. Here? Nothing.

Investigations don't start out with the assumption of a crime - they start out to investigate whether or not a crime took place or, for that matter, wrong doing of some sort. Given that Russian interference was confirmed, multiple times, and weakness' in our electoral systems and that of other nations, exposed - an investigation was absolutely merited. It did not have to find a crime, but it did need to occur.

Then why didn't they investigate Obama since it all happened under his watch?
Because the Media LIKED Obama,
 
Of course they can
You liberals need to stop relying on the government for protection stand up and be a man

Oh. Wait. Retaliation is now a good thing. I wonder if we are going to get more vigilante pizza shop style shootings.

What pizza shop shootings?

You may be thinking of the leftist Bernie supporter who shot up the entire Republican baseball team.

pizzagate.
Oh, you said "shootingS"

And all you really have is one nutjob who did this:

On December 4, 2016, Edgar Maddison Welch, a 28-year-old man from Salisbury, North Carolina, arrived at Comet Ping Pong and fired three shots from an AR-15-style rifle that struck the restaurant's walls, a desk, and a door

All it takes is one nut, believing a bunch of conspiracy theory crap about an innocent person.
 
Other than trying to get the guy killed, what possible purpose does it serve?

For crying out loud, you people were bitching for five years because McConnell stated he wanted to see DumBama as a one-term President. Here you have a guy trying to undermine the Trump presidency, and no problem at all. Why? Because he's a Republican.

I could only imagine if we did anything like this to Obama. There would have been riots in the street.
Because it was unnecessary, potentially illegal, put's his life and his family in jeopardy. Everything in the report was independently verified. The only reason to do this is to ruin a man's life for doing the right thing and reporting on something even his superiors agreed was credible.

You guys are just nuts.

Think of precedents - if we can't protect whistle blowers reporting on unethical conduct from our government - who will take the risk of reporting?

What is so weird is it's typically the RIGHT that takes the position of checks and balance on the government. Things have certainly changed.
Precedents? Those got thrown out the window after they violated Trump's lawyer/client confidentiality. Now anything goes

Anything.
Seems like THAT is what happened. There was no "Original Crime" here to merit the Muller farce. With Nixon there was a burglary. With Whitewater there was a Land Fraud deal. Here? Nothing.

Investigations don't start out with the assumption of a crime - they start out to investigate whether or not a crime took place or, for that matter, wrong doing of some sort. Given that Russian interference was confirmed, multiple times, and weakness' in our electoral systems and that of other nations, exposed - an investigation was absolutely merited. It did not have to find a crime, but it did need to occur.

Then why didn't they investigate Obama since it all happened under his watch?
Because the Media LIKED Obama,

Because they didn't take it seriously enough at the time.
 
Other than trying to get the guy killed, what possible purpose does it serve?

For crying out loud, you people were bitching for five years because McConnell stated he wanted to see DumBama as a one-term President. Here you have a guy trying to undermine the Trump presidency, and no problem at all. Why? Because he's a Republican.

I could only imagine if we did anything like this to Obama. There would have been riots in the street.


Undermining?

He reported on potentially illegal acts. Every item was independently confirmed. He did so through the right channels, and his report was deemed credible by his superiors.

But wait - it's Trump. Any whistle blower complaints about Trump is automatically "illicit".

You are essentially saying there can be no checks and balances on this presidents behavior from any quarter: from Congress, from the media, from civil servants. Checks and balances are now "coups".
He reported Rumors, and 2nd hand information which was incorrect which means he filed a fraudulent report, which is a felony.

wrong.
https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Docu...on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints.pdf
 
Other than trying to get the guy killed, what possible purpose does it serve?

For crying out loud, you people were bitching for five years because McConnell stated he wanted to see DumBama as a one-term President. Here you have a guy trying to undermine the Trump presidency, and no problem at all. Why? Because he's a Republican.

I could only imagine if we did anything like this to Obama. There would have been riots in the street.


Undermining?

He reported on potentially illegal acts. Every item was independently confirmed. He did so through the right channels, and his report was deemed credible by his superiors.

But wait - it's Trump. Any whistle blower complaints about Trump is automatically "illicit".

You are essentially saying there can be no checks and balances on this presidents behavior from any quarter: from Congress, from the media, from civil servants. Checks and balances are now "coups".
He had zero first hand knowledge.

& the IG investigated the people he named & found him & them to be credible.
So? He isn't a whistleblower without first hand knowledge.

Oh? Show me the law that says that.
 
Other than trying to get the guy killed, what possible purpose does it serve?

For crying out loud, you people were bitching for five years because McConnell stated he wanted to see DumBama as a one-term President. Here you have a guy trying to undermine the Trump presidency, and no problem at all. Why? Because he's a Republican.

I could only imagine if we did anything like this to Obama. There would have been riots in the street.


Undermining?

He reported on potentially illegal acts. Every item was independently confirmed. He did so through the right channels, and his report was deemed credible by his superiors.

But wait - it's Trump. Any whistle blower complaints about Trump is automatically "illicit".

You are essentially saying there can be no checks and balances on this presidents behavior from any quarter: from Congress, from the media, from civil servants. Checks and balances are now "coups".
He reported Rumors, and 2nd hand information which was incorrect which means he filed a fraudulent report, which is a felony.

wrong.
https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/News/ICIG News/2019/September 30 - Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints/ICIG Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints.pdf


And there is nothing wrong with second hand info - that is why they have to mark it as either first or second hand, and why the reports are checked for credibility before there is any action.
 
A very wrong thing to do.
Why?

Because it was unnecessary, potentially illegal, put's his life and his family in jeopardy. Everything in the report was independently verified. The only reason to do this is to ruin a man's life for doing the right thing and reporting on something even his superiors agreed was credible.

You guys are just nuts.

Think of precedents - if we can't protect whistle blowers reporting on unethical conduct from our government - who will take the risk of reporting?

What is so weird is it's typically the RIGHT that takes the position of checks and balance on the government. Things have certainly changed.
The report was 90% lies. The idea that any Republican is going to assassinate this douchebag doesn't pass the laugh test. Democrats do that kind of thing, not Republicans.

When did Obama protect whistleblowers reporting on his administration?

Answer: never.

the IG stated that the WB was credible & the info they gave was corroborated.
The IG is a member of the coup against Trump. 90% of the Whistleblower's report was proven to be false.
 
Of course they can
You liberals need to stop relying on the government for protection stand up and be a man

Oh. Wait. Retaliation is now a good thing. I wonder if we are going to get more vigilante pizza shop style shootings.

What pizza shop shootings?

You may be thinking of the leftist Bernie supporter who shot up the entire Republican baseball team.

pizzagate.
Oh, you said "shootingS"

And all you really have is one nutjob who did this:

On December 4, 2016, Edgar Maddison Welch, a 28-year-old man from Salisbury, North Carolina, arrived at Comet Ping Pong and fired three shots from an AR-15-style rifle that struck the restaurant's walls, a desk, and a door

an 's' doesn't change anything. a nutter is a nutter is a nutter & there just might be a MAGAT with a gun ready to go nutS.
 
Other than trying to get the guy killed, what possible purpose does it serve?

For crying out loud, you people were bitching for five years because McConnell stated he wanted to see DumBama as a one-term President. Here you have a guy trying to undermine the Trump presidency, and no problem at all. Why? Because he's a Republican.

I could only imagine if we did anything like this to Obama. There would have been riots in the street.


Undermining?

He reported on potentially illegal acts. Every item was independently confirmed. He did so through the right channels, and his report was deemed credible by his superiors.

But wait - it's Trump. Any whistle blower complaints about Trump is automatically "illicit".

You are essentially saying there can be no checks and balances on this presidents behavior from any quarter: from Congress, from the media, from civil servants. Checks and balances are now "coups".
He reported Rumors, and 2nd hand information which was incorrect which means he filed a fraudulent report, which is a felony.

wrong.
https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/News/ICIG News/2019/September 30 - Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints/ICIG Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints.pdf


And there is nothing wrong with second hand info - that is why they have to mark it as either first or second hand, and why the reports are checked for credibility before there is any action.
There's plenty of things wrong with 2nd hand info. Previously such reports went directly into the waste bin.
 

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