g5000
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- Nov 26, 2011
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Q Would you characterize this information Mr. Steele was sharing with you as something similar to a tip or was it a fully formed report?
A These were leads.
Q Leads?
A Yeah.
Q Okay. And did the information, as far as you could understand it from what he described to you, was it more counterintelligence related or more criminal?
A That's part of the problem, is it's both.
Q Okay. And, again, to reiterate, you are not a counterintelligence official?
A Correct.
Q So counterintelligence information, even if it's mixed up in a criminal matter, would be outside the scope of your official duties?
A Correct.
Q So given that you're not a counterintelligence official and you don't act in that capacity in an official sense, it made -- do you believe it made sense to report that information through your normal chain of command or the FBI?
A I believed it was proper to report it to the FBI.
Q Is it -- and I think you've said this now a couple of times -- but is it fair to say that any communication you had with Mr. Steele that involved substantive counterintelligence matters you immediately shared with the FBI?
A I shared -- when I received information from Chris Steele in the end of July, I reported it to the FBI, I don't know exactly how often, how quickly, but within a couple weeks, I think. When I received more information in September, again, I think I reported it to the FBI, I don't remember if it was immediately but within a couple weeks. Once I had a regular contact at the FBI, I think I reported those either the same or the next day after that.
A These were leads.
Q Leads?
A Yeah.
Q Okay. And did the information, as far as you could understand it from what he described to you, was it more counterintelligence related or more criminal?
A That's part of the problem, is it's both.
Q Okay. And, again, to reiterate, you are not a counterintelligence official?
A Correct.
Q So counterintelligence information, even if it's mixed up in a criminal matter, would be outside the scope of your official duties?
A Correct.
Q So given that you're not a counterintelligence official and you don't act in that capacity in an official sense, it made -- do you believe it made sense to report that information through your normal chain of command or the FBI?
A I believed it was proper to report it to the FBI.
Q Is it -- and I think you've said this now a couple of times -- but is it fair to say that any communication you had with Mr. Steele that involved substantive counterintelligence matters you immediately shared with the FBI?
A I shared -- when I received information from Chris Steele in the end of July, I reported it to the FBI, I don't know exactly how often, how quickly, but within a couple weeks, I think. When I received more information in September, again, I think I reported it to the FBI, I don't remember if it was immediately but within a couple weeks. Once I had a regular contact at the FBI, I think I reported those either the same or the next day after that.