Results of Gun Control in a Liberal Utopia

[deltex1]

Gun control isn't the only reason libs love Sweden....

Public masturbation not a crime: Swedish court - The Local

 

[Toro]

Gun control isn't the only reason libs love Sweden....

Public masturbation not a crime: Swedish court - The Local

Are you novasteve's sock?

 

[Geaux4it]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But Switzerland that has high private gun ownership has a 42% lower homicide rate than the UK which has banned guns.

-Geaux

First, two thirds of ALL gun related deaths are suicide.

So why is that a problem?

-Geaux

 

[kwc57]

I posted this in another thread and the anit- American gun grabbing liberals blame the statistics on culture. I salute that as they agree the gun is not the problem

-Geaux

Information in the post in part, comes from the 'Firing Line'

There are between 270-300 million guns in the USA. To put this in perspective, 4% of the worlds population owns 50% of all privately owned guns in the world. Some would think this would mean that the USA should have a homicide rate over 12x (50% divided by 4%) higher than the rest of the world.

In 2012 the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime compared intentional homicide rates for most countries in the world. USA's rate was 4.8 per 100,000 inhabitants while the worldwide average was 6.9. These figures mean you are 30% less likely to be murdered in the USA than elsewhere in the world.. The 4.8 homicide rate is not even close to 12 times higher than the rest of the world.

So much for the hypothesis that more privately owned guns cause more murders.

Now, before you start throwing out how Japan, Australia, UK, Canada where guns are banned have rankings more favorable than the USA in homicide rates, so do Switzerland and Finland which have high rates of private ownership. In fact, Switzerland's homicide rate ranks 42% lower than the UK's. And of course, the gun control movement never mentions Mexico, Brazil and South Africa where private ownership is very difficult and which have homicide rates far above those of the USA.

While the hypothesis that high gun ownership rates cause a decrease in homicide is still being debated, the inverse that high gun ownership causes high homicide rates- is most certainly dead in the water.

USA's rate was 4.8 per 100,000 inhabitants while the worldwide average was 6.9. These figures mean you are 30% less likely to be murdered in the USA than elsewhere in the world.

Sheesh, way to spin a statistic!

Ignore facts at your own peril.

 

[kwc57]

Here is where we would be in the US if liberal gun grabbers had their way like the French. Read it and weep.

News from The Associated Press

Outrage is growing in France over the decision to bring manslaughter charges against a jeweler who shot and killed an escaping robber, but the country's top security official on Tuesday urged fearful storekeepers to let justice take its course........

.......In a country where gun violence is rare but thefts are increasingly common, the shooting has placed the government in a difficult position........

........Jewelers in southern France say they're being targeted as never before and lack the resources to protect themselves........

.........A single gunman in the southern city of Cannes made off with a $136 million cache this summer. That was followed by another armed robbery days later in the same city.......

.......The number of jewelry store robberies has been climbing for years. There's one robbery a day in France...........

..........This creates enormous stress for the merchants. They live with this fear and insecurity every day.........

And now that a jewelry store owner used his "illegal" firearm to protect himself and his property from criminals......the government wants to put him on trial. That my friends is fucked up.

So the GOP plan is to arm felons, murderers and rapists? That's how we make the country more safe?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/law-a...or-felons-rapists-and-murderers-good-job.html

I fail to understand how someone who supports the murder of defensless unborn children as a "right" would be the least bit concerned about gun deaths.

 

[Steven_R]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the results of liberal gun control utopia is that you are 16 times less likely to be murdered by a gun.

If you take minorities out of the statistics, the US falls right in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

Maybe what we need is minority control.

 

[Steven_R]

I fail to understand how someone who supports the murder of defensless unborn children as a "right" would be the least bit concerned about gun deaths.

Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.

 

[RoadVirus]

Don't worry, the police will keep you safe.

When seconds count, police are minutes away (at the donut shop)!

 

[idb]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the results of liberal gun control utopia is that you are 16 times less likely to be murdered by a gun.

If you take minorities out of the statistics, the US falls right in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

Maybe what we need is minority control.

Minorities are still Americans.
Why not remove men, or ex-McDonalds employees, or ex-postal workers...?

 

[kwc57]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the results of liberal gun control utopia is that you are 16 times less likely to be murdered by a gun.

If you take minorities out of the statistics, the US falls right in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

Maybe what we need is minority control.

Minorities are still Americans.
Why not remove men, or ex-McDonalds employees, or ex-postal workers...?

Perhaps they need to act like Americans instead of hypenated Americans. You know, assimilate into American culture.

 

[FA_Q2]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the results of liberal gun control utopia is that you are 16 times less likely to be murdered by a gun.

And yet the actual homicide rate in France is 1.1 compared to 4.8 in the US. What does that tell you? If it tells you that the homicide rate being filtered by GUN deaths is a useless statistic then you would be right. Of course, Switzerland has been brought up and the fact that they have a homicide rate of .7 compared to Frances 1.1 should tell you something else VERY relevant to this discussion.
GUN LAWS HAVE ALMOST NO BERING WHATSOEVER WITH HOMICIDE RATES. Period.

I have proven this here a hundred times. Australia passes strict gun control and for the next seven years – nothing. Homicide rates remain flat. Britton passes strict laws at least twice and the results? NOTHING. The increasing homicide trend line remains identical through both laws. Texas and Florida pass laws making it easier to obtain a weapon and what happens? Not increasing homicide rates like the anti-gun argument wants you to think. Instead, homicides continue their sharp decreases until they fall to the national average.

The FACTS – not pointless conjecture and useless statistics that have been pre filtered with ‘gun’ deaths and other drivel – bear out one resounding reality: guns laws have little to no effect on actual homicide rate.

 

[idb]

If you take minorities out of the statistics, the US falls right in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

Maybe what we need is minority control.

Minorities are still Americans.
Why not remove men, or ex-McDonalds employees, or ex-postal workers...?

Perhaps they need to act like Americans instead of hypenated Americans. You know, assimilate into American culture.

That's an interesting thought.
All cultures evolve over time.
What date do you suggest you set 'American culture' at?

 

[PrometheusBound]

What we need are bigger "gun free zone" signs so people don't miss them.

Those are the only places where criminals can feel safe.

 

[PrometheusBound]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the results of liberal gun control utopia is that you are 16 times less likely to be murdered by a gun.

If you take minorities out of the statistics, the US falls right in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

Maybe what we need is minority control.

If "we" put a leash on the feral races, then what reason would Whites have for voting Republican ever again?

 

[kwc57]

Minorities are still Americans.
Why not remove men, or ex-McDonalds employees, or ex-postal workers...?

Perhaps they need to act like Americans instead of hypenated Americans. You know, assimilate into American culture.

That's an interesting thought.
All cultures evolve over time.
What date do you suggest you set 'American culture' at?

It's not a date, it's an attitude. Immigrants at the turn of the 20th century who came to America looked at it as a land of opportunity and would often forbid their children from speaking in their native tongue outside the home. The reason was that they came to America to follow their dreams and be successful like the Americans they admired. They wanted to be part of the American culture, so they assimilated. If I moved to Australia and wanted to live like an Aborigine, I wouldn't continue to speak, dress and act like a middle class cuacasian. I'd embrace and adopt their ways rather than continue living as I had and insist they accept me as one of them.....just different.

 

[Toro]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the results of liberal gun control utopia is that you are 16 times less likely to be murdered by a gun.

If you take minorities out of the statistics, the US falls right in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

Maybe what we need is minority control.

We'll send you in all by your lonesome to do the job.

 

[francoHFW]

That's BS anyway.

 

[Geaux4it]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the results of liberal gun control utopia is that you are 16 times less likely to be murdered by a gun.

If you take minorities out of the statistics, the US falls right in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

Maybe what we need is minority control.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner

-Geaux

 

[TemplarKormac]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the results of liberal gun control utopia is that you are 16 times less likely to be murdered by a gun.

If you take minorities out of the statistics, the US falls right in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

Maybe what we need is minority control.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner

-Geaux

Actually, if you took Chicago out of the statistics, the US falls in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

 

[theHawk]

Actually, if you took Chicago out of the statistics, the US falls in line with the rest of Europe when it comes to gun and murder statistics.

Exactly. That's the 500 pound gorilla the lefties don't want to deal with. Without the Detroits, DC, LA gang-lands ect, suddenly the homicide rate is right in line with Europe.

They want to make believe that its only the gun laws that makes this difference, but it's not. Its the US's joke of a justice system that lets criminals loose on the streets. No Europe country has 20% of its population as black, and other 20%+ being latino.

Liberals can't deal with "the whole truth", just selective truth.