Ronald Reagan succinctly defined fascism and correctly said...

[366h34d]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

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Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

There is no "better," moron. Reagan was right. Fascism is a form of socialism. It's hard left. The fascists of the 20th century all supported government control of the economy. i.e., socialism. The fascists of the 21st century, Antifa, BLM and the Democrat party, all support socialism.

Sorry dude, fascism is a form of hard right aka far right.

You are the mayor of wrongville, Hard left is the new hard right.

 

[edthecynic]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

St Ronnie said no such thing you worthless lying scum POS!!!!!

 

[surada]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

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Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

Fascists of the 20th century practiced what the modern American left supports.

Did you know that FDR and many other leftists admired Benito Mussolini? I bet you didn't know that. Fascism is total government control of EVERY facet of society. That's not right-wing ideology my friend.

(17) Charlottesville Nazis Chant 'Jews Will Not Replace Us' Through Streets of #CVille 8/12/17 - YouTube
These guys aren't voting for Biden. The reason I know this is because they carry Confederate flags and fight against Antifa.

The Daily Stormer Endorses Donald Trump for President – Daily Stormer
These guys are.

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These people did.

I don't need to make claims about what FDR thought about Mussolini. I can SHOW you, those that proudly identify with Nazism are invariably Trump supporters.

According to your logic, you're a Commie and a terrorist. In fact, that's exactly what you are:

Communists approve Joe Biden for president

Bob Avakian, chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party USA (RCPUSA), has endorsed Joe Biden for president.

www.washingtontimes.com

Communists At Home And Abroad All Want Joe Biden To Win

Senate Investigation Finds Obama Admin Knowingly Funded al-Qaeda Affiliate

Senate Investigation Finds Obama Admin Knowingly Funded al-Qaeda Affiliate

The US recruited and funded the forerunner of Al Qaeda long before Obama was out of knee pants to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.. Just how stupid are you people?

Wrong.

We did not train, fund, or materielize a young Osama bin laden. - Reader comments for The Investigative Project on Terrorism

​

"Osama bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera (journalist) Tayseer Alouni in October 2001: "The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed."​

​

"A variety of sources — CNN journalist Peter Bergen, Pakistani ISI Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, and CIA operatives involved in the Afghan program, such as Vincent Cannistraro — deny that the CIA or other American officials had contact with the Afghan Arabs (foreign mujahideen) or Bin Laden, let alone armed, trained, coached or indoctrinated them."​

​

"But Bergen and others argue that there was no need to recruit foreigners unfamiliar with the local language, customs or lay of the land since there were a quarter of a million local Afghans willing to fight; that Arab Afghans themselves had no need for American funds since they received several hundred million dollars a year from non-American, Muslim sources; that Americans could not have trained mujahideen because Pakistani officials would not allow more than a handful of them to operate in Pakistan and none in Afghanistan; and that the Afghan Arabs were almost invariably militant Islamists reflexively hostile to Westerners whether or not the Westerners were helping the Muslim Afghans."​

​

"According to Peter Bergen, known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin Laden in 1997, the idea that "the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden ... a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. ... Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. ... The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him."​

​

Osama was of the ARAB-Afghans. ie. Of the foreign Arabs who showed up in Afghan to help out the local Muslim Afghans fighting against the USSR. This conflict is not over either. It now continues in Chechnya for offensive jihad-build-up purposes.​

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No​

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No the CIA did not finance, train, or create UBL/Al-qaeda. This is a moonbat myth told by many troofers. Mr.Quevedo is really trying hard to protect his sham of a religion. It's ok I've heard it all the excuses from islamic-apologists before.​

​

Links to educate yourself.​

http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin_links_to_t...​

Al-Qaeda - Wikipedia​

Al-Qaeda - Wikipedia...​

​

Good book on this subject: Disinformation : 22 Media Myths That Undermine the War on Terror​

​

"Osama bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera (journalist) Tayseer Alouni in October 2001: "The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed."​

​

"A variety of sources — CNN journalist Peter Bergen, Pakistani ISI Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, and CIA operatives involved in the Afghan program, such as Vincent Cannistraro — deny that the CIA or other American officials had contact with the Afghan Arabs (foreign mujahideen) or Bin Laden, let alone armed, trained, coached or indoctrinated them."​

​

"But Bergen and others argue that there was no need to recruit foreigners unfamiliar with the local language, customs or lay of the land since there were a quarter of a million local Afghans willing to fight; that Arab Afghans themselves had no need for American funds since they received several hundred million dollars a year from non-American, Muslim sources; that Americans could not have trained mujahideen because Pakistani officials would not allow more than a handful of them to operate in Pakistan and none in Afghanistan; and that the Afghan Arabs were almost invariably militant Islamists reflexively hostile to Westerners whether or not the Westerners were helping the Muslim Afghans."​

​

"According to Peter Bergen, known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin Laden in 1997, the idea that "the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden ... a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. ... Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. ... The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him."​

​

Osama was of the ARAB-Afghans. ie. Of the foreign Arabs who showed up in Afghan to help out the local Muslim Afghans fighting against the USSR. This conflict is not over either. It now continues in Chechnya for offensive jihad-build-up purposes.​

​

The CIA was recruiting fighters in Yemen. My classmate was with the French embassy there for 20 yers. ..and the Saudis were sending fighters.. The US was funding the base thru the Saudis so they could do plausible deniability ...

The US knew exactly who OBL was in 1979.. and considered him a huge asset in fighting the Soviets. He was like the poster boy for getting other Arabs to go to Afghanistan to fight. He also had heavy equipment to take with him.. OBL was heavily into the teachings of Hassan al Banna and Sayyid Quṭb so he was out of step in Arabia anyway.

 

[surada]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

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Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

There is no "better," moron. Reagan was right. Fascism is a form of socialism. It's hard left. The fascists of the 20th century all supported government control of the economy. i.e., socialism. The fascists of the 21st century, Antifa, BLM and the Democrat party, all support socialism.

Sorry dude, fascism is a form of hard right aka far right.

You are the mayor of wrongville, Hard left is the new hard right.

Fascists put socialists and communists in prison.. or they kill them. Go back to school.

 

[bripat9643]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

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Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

Fascists of the 20th century practiced what the modern American left supports.

Did you know that FDR and many other leftists admired Benito Mussolini? I bet you didn't know that. Fascism is total government control of EVERY facet of society. That's not right-wing ideology my friend.

(17) Charlottesville Nazis Chant 'Jews Will Not Replace Us' Through Streets of #CVille 8/12/17 - YouTube
These guys aren't voting for Biden. The reason I know this is because they carry Confederate flags and fight against Antifa.

The Daily Stormer Endorses Donald Trump for President – Daily Stormer
These guys are.

View attachment 440028

These people did.

I don't need to make claims about what FDR thought about Mussolini. I can SHOW you, those that proudly identify with Nazism are invariably Trump supporters.

According to your logic, you're a Commie and a terrorist. In fact, that's exactly what you are:

Communists approve Joe Biden for president

Bob Avakian, chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party USA (RCPUSA), has endorsed Joe Biden for president.

www.washingtontimes.com

Communists At Home And Abroad All Want Joe Biden To Win

Senate Investigation Finds Obama Admin Knowingly Funded al-Qaeda Affiliate

Senate Investigation Finds Obama Admin Knowingly Funded al-Qaeda Affiliate

The US recruited and funded the forerunner of Al Qaeda long before Obama was out of knee pants to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.. Just how stupid are you people?

Wrong.

We did not train, fund, or materielize a young Osama bin laden. - Reader comments for The Investigative Project on Terrorism

​

"Osama bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera (journalist) Tayseer Alouni in October 2001: "The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed."​

​

"A variety of sources — CNN journalist Peter Bergen, Pakistani ISI Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, and CIA operatives involved in the Afghan program, such as Vincent Cannistraro — deny that the CIA or other American officials had contact with the Afghan Arabs (foreign mujahideen) or Bin Laden, let alone armed, trained, coached or indoctrinated them."​

​

"But Bergen and others argue that there was no need to recruit foreigners unfamiliar with the local language, customs or lay of the land since there were a quarter of a million local Afghans willing to fight; that Arab Afghans themselves had no need for American funds since they received several hundred million dollars a year from non-American, Muslim sources; that Americans could not have trained mujahideen because Pakistani officials would not allow more than a handful of them to operate in Pakistan and none in Afghanistan; and that the Afghan Arabs were almost invariably militant Islamists reflexively hostile to Westerners whether or not the Westerners were helping the Muslim Afghans."​

​

"According to Peter Bergen, known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin Laden in 1997, the idea that "the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden ... a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. ... Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. ... The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him."​

​

Osama was of the ARAB-Afghans. ie. Of the foreign Arabs who showed up in Afghan to help out the local Muslim Afghans fighting against the USSR. This conflict is not over either. It now continues in Chechnya for offensive jihad-build-up purposes.​

​

No​

​

No the CIA did not finance, train, or create UBL/Al-qaeda. This is a moonbat myth told by many troofers. Mr.Quevedo is really trying hard to protect his sham of a religion. It's ok I've heard it all the excuses from islamic-apologists before.​

​

Links to educate yourself.​

http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin_links_to_t...​

Al-Qaeda - Wikipedia​

Al-Qaeda - Wikipedia...​

​

Good book on this subject: Disinformation : 22 Media Myths That Undermine the War on Terror​

​

"Osama bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera (journalist) Tayseer Alouni in October 2001: "The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed."​

​

"A variety of sources — CNN journalist Peter Bergen, Pakistani ISI Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, and CIA operatives involved in the Afghan program, such as Vincent Cannistraro — deny that the CIA or other American officials had contact with the Afghan Arabs (foreign mujahideen) or Bin Laden, let alone armed, trained, coached or indoctrinated them."​

​

"But Bergen and others argue that there was no need to recruit foreigners unfamiliar with the local language, customs or lay of the land since there were a quarter of a million local Afghans willing to fight; that Arab Afghans themselves had no need for American funds since they received several hundred million dollars a year from non-American, Muslim sources; that Americans could not have trained mujahideen because Pakistani officials would not allow more than a handful of them to operate in Pakistan and none in Afghanistan; and that the Afghan Arabs were almost invariably militant Islamists reflexively hostile to Westerners whether or not the Westerners were helping the Muslim Afghans."​

​

"According to Peter Bergen, known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin Laden in 1997, the idea that "the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden ... a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. ... Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. ... The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him."​

​

Osama was of the ARAB-Afghans. ie. Of the foreign Arabs who showed up in Afghan to help out the local Muslim Afghans fighting against the USSR. This conflict is not over either. It now continues in Chechnya for offensive jihad-build-up purposes.​

​

The CIA was recruiting fighters in Yemen. My classmate was with the French embassy there for 20 yers. ..and the Saudis were sending fighters.. The US was funding the base thru the Saudis so they could do plausible deniability ...

The US knew exactly who OBL was in 1979.. and considered him a huge asset in fighting the Soviets. He was like the poster boy for getting other Arabs to go to Afghanistan to fight. He also had heavy equipment to take with him.. OBL was heavily into the teachings of Hassan al Banna and Sayyid Quṭb so he was out of step in Arabia anyway.

In other words, the United States was funding nothing and training no one. You just admitted that the Saudis were doing it.

How could anyone know in 1979 that Al Queda was going to bomb the World Trade Center when the name didn't even exist then?

You're a fucking moron

 

[bripat9643]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

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Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

There is no "better," moron. Reagan was right. Fascism is a form of socialism. It's hard left. The fascists of the 20th century all supported government control of the economy. i.e., socialism. The fascists of the 21st century, Antifa, BLM and the Democrat party, all support socialism.

Sorry dude, fascism is a form of hard right aka far right.

You are the mayor of wrongville, Hard left is the new hard right.

Fascists put socialists and communists in prison.. or they kill them. Go back to school.

Socialists put socialists and communists in prison.

You're argument is complete horseshit.

Already debunked.

 

[bripat9643]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

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That’s one of the many problems with you RWNJs. You elect some a$$hole and suddenly everything he says is the gospel.

Well, King Ronny’s definition is completely backwards.

Fascism is defined as: a political ideology and mass movement that dominated many parts of central, southern, and eastern Europe between 1919 and 1945 and that also had adherents in western Europe, the United States, South Africa, Japan, Latin America, and the Middle East. Europe’s first fascist leader, Benito Mussolini, took the name of his party from the Latin word fasces.

Although fascist parties and movements differed significantly from one another, they had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation.

At the end of World War II, the major European fascist parties were broken up, and in some countries (such as Italy and West Germany) they were officially banned. Beginning in the late 1940s, however, many fascist-oriented parties and movements were founded in Europe as well as in Latin America and South Africa. Although some European “neofascist” groups attracted large followings, especially in Italy and France, none were as influential as the major fascist parties of the interwar period.

For more information on fascism and other forms of far right extremism:

STANLEY G. PAYNE, A History of Fascism, 1914–1945 (1995), discusses fascist and extreme right movements in several countries, including the United States. Analyses of fascism in various European countries are presented in ALEXANDER DE GRAND, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany (1995); S.J. WOOLF (ed.), European Fascism (1968); JOHN WEISS, The Fascist Tradition: Radical Right-Wing Extremism in Modern Europe (1967); and WALTER LAQUEUR and GEORGE L. MOSSE (eds.), International Fascism, 1920–1945 (1966). ARNO J. MAYER, Dynamics of Counterrevolution in Europe, 1870–1956: An Analytic Framework (1971), is a study of collaboration and divergence between counterrevolutionaries and fascists. ALASTAIR HAMILTON, The Appeal of Fascism: A Study of Intellectuals and Fascism, 1919–1945 (1971), discusses fascism in Italy, Germany, France, and Britain. On the social bases of European fascism, see STEIN UGELVIK LARSEN, BERTN HAGTVET, and JAN PETTER MYKLEBUST (eds.), Who Were the Fascists: Social Roots of European Fascism (1980); DETLEF MÜHLBERGER (ed.), The Social Basis of European Fascist Movements (1987); and CHARLES S. MAIER, Recasting Bourgeois Europe: Stabilization in France, Germany, and Italy in the Decade After World War I (1975, reprinted 1988). ROGER GRIFFEN (ed.), International Fascism (1998), covers various theoretical approaches to fascism. Also of interest is ROBERT O. PAXTON, “The Five Stages of Fascism,” Journal of Modern History, 70(1) (March 1998), pp. 1–23; and ROBERT J. SOUCY, “Functional Hating: French Fascist Demonology Between the Wars,” in Contemporary French Civilization, 23(2) (Summer/Fall 1999), pp. 158–176.



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Another giant load of BertramN horseshit.

 

[bripat9643]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

TikTok

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Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

There is no "better," moron. Reagan was right. Fascism is a form of socialism. It's hard left. The fascists of the 20th century all supported government control of the economy. i.e., socialism. The fascists of the 21st century, Antifa, BLM and the Democrat party, all support socialism.

Sorry dude, fascism is a form of hard right aka far right.

You are the mayor of wrongville, Hard left is the new hard right.

 

[busybee01]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

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Ronald Reagan would never be a part of the Trumnp Republican Party. He would agree that the far right Trump supporters and Trump himself are fascists.

 

[366h34d]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

TikTok

www.tiktok.com

Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

There is no "better," moron. Reagan was right. Fascism is a form of socialism. It's hard left. The fascists of the 20th century all supported government control of the economy. i.e., socialism. The fascists of the 21st century, Antifa, BLM and the Democrat party, all support socialism.

Sorry dude, fascism is a form of hard right aka far right.

You are the mayor of wrongville, Hard left is the new hard right.

Fascists put socialists and communists in prison.. or they kill them. Go back to school.

learn your history.
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
"
Do they do it all at once? they do it one by one.

Give you an updated version
First they came for the Trump, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trumpers.
Then they came for the GOPs, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Gop.
Then they came for the Establishments, and I did not speak out— Because I was not an establishment.
Then they came for the moderate, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a moderate.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Who am I? I am a progressive.

 

[bripat9643]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

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Ronald Reagan would never be a part of the Trumnp Republican Party. He would agree that the far right Trump supporters and Trump himself are fascists.

No he wouldn't.

You're an imbecile.

 

[bripat9643]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

TikTok

www.tiktok.com

Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

There is no "better," moron. Reagan was right. Fascism is a form of socialism. It's hard left. The fascists of the 20th century all supported government control of the economy. i.e., socialism. The fascists of the 21st century, Antifa, BLM and the Democrat party, all support socialism.

Sorry dude, fascism is a form of hard right aka far right.

You are the mayor of wrongville, Hard left is the new hard right.

Fascists put socialists and communists in prison.. or they kill them. Go back to school.

learn your history.
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
"
Do they do it all at once? they do it one by one.

Give you an updated version
First they came for the Trump, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trumpers.
Then they came for the GOPs, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Gop.
Then they came for the Establishments, and I did not speak out— Because I was not an establishment.
Then they came for the moderate, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a moderate.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Who am I? I am a progressive.

Bravo again!

 

[366h34d]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

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Ronald Reagan would never be a part of the Trumnp Republican Party. He would agree that the far right Trump supporters and Trump himself are fascists.

when was the last time you saw this in a fascist state?

 

[busybee01]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

TikTok

www.tiktok.com

Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

There is no "better," moron. Reagan was right. Fascism is a form of socialism. It's hard left. The fascists of the 20th century all supported government control of the economy. i.e., socialism. The fascists of the 21st century, Antifa, BLM and the Democrat party, all support socialism.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Fascism and socialism have nothing to do with each other. Fascists want to control the country or even the world by force. Just like what Trump supporters did in attacking the Capitol. Trump refused to condemn them. You also have no idea what socialism is. Any policy you don't like is socialism.

 

[OKTexas]

If you morons think Biden is out of it, he’s a genius to Reagan’s second term. Dude was basically on life support pushed around with drool wiped up for him.

Biden is the same age as Reagan when Reagan left office.

.

 

[bripat9643]

...that if it ever came to America it would come in the name of liberalism.

Amen.

TikTok

www.tiktok.com

Reagan didn't know any better.. Fascism is hard right, racist and nationalistic. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

There is no "better," moron. Reagan was right. Fascism is a form of socialism. It's hard left. The fascists of the 20th century all supported government control of the economy. i.e., socialism. The fascists of the 21st century, Antifa, BLM and the Democrat party, all support socialism.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Fascism and socialism have nothing to do with each other. Fascists want to control the country or even the world by force. Just like what Trump supporters did in attacking the Capitol. Trump refused to condemn them. You also have no idea what socialism is. Any policy you don't like is socialism.

Democrats want to control the world by force, moron. No one attacked the capitol.

Socialism is the doctrine that justifies totalitarianism.

You're an idiot. I have no interest in entertaining your ignorance.

 

[bripat9643]

If you morons think Biden is out of it, he’s a genius to Reagan’s second term. Dude was basically on life support pushed around with drool wiped up for him.

Biden is the same age as Reagan when Reagan left office.

.

Yes, and his senility is already far more advanced.

 

[jasonnfree]

How many Americans would want Social Security or Medicare to end? Both socialist programs brought to us by democrats FDR and LBJ. I can't think of any programs republicans have given us since they usually focus on how they can help the very wealthy get very much wealthier.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Fascist use hate and fear as political weapons......yea, that's the Dems

 

[bripat9643]

How many Americans would want Social Security or Medicare to end? Both socialist programs brought to us by democrats FDR and LBJ. I can't think of any programs republicans have given us since they usually focus on how they can help the very wealthy get very much wealthier.

"Given us" or imposed on us? If Americans were allowed to not pay SS and Medicare taxes, how much revenue would they receive? We all know the answer is none.