Russia Offering To Help With Syrian Chemical Weapons Because They’re Worried About Ob

[Wehrwolfen]

Kerry: Russia Offering To Help With Syrian Chemical Weapons Because They’re Worried About Obama…


In reality they took a John Kerry gaffe and turned it into a way to save their key ally.

Via Politico:

Secretary of State John Kerry told a closed meeting of House lawmakers that the Russian government is only seeking to help Syria because they believe the U.S. is serious about taking military action, according to multiple sources present.

The comment, which came in a classified briefing of the full House on Monday, mirrors public comments by other Obama administration officials: the threat of a military attack is working to bring the Russians to the negotiating table.

After enduring days of brutal skepticism from lawmakers of both parties, Kerry and other administration officials wasted no time in attempting to link Russia’s proposal to the pressure coming from the White House. Democratic lawmakers agreed.​

Krauthammer said it best: ”The Russians were playing chess here with a set of rank amateurs.”

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Kerry: Russia Offering To Help With Syrian Chemical Weapons Because They?re Worried About Obama? | Weasel Zippers


Actually Putin and Assad were playing Chess while Obama thought they were playing checkers.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Kerry: Russia Offering To Help With Syrian Chemical Weapons Because They’re Worried About Obama…


In reality they took a John Kerry gaffe and turned it into a way to save their key ally.

Via Politico:

Secretary of State John Kerry told a closed meeting of House lawmakers that the Russian government is only seeking to help Syria because they believe the U.S. is serious about taking military action, according to multiple sources present.

The comment, which came in a classified briefing of the full House on Monday, mirrors public comments by other Obama administration officials: the threat of a military attack is working to bring the Russians to the negotiating table.

After enduring days of brutal skepticism from lawmakers of both parties, Kerry and other administration officials wasted no time in attempting to link Russia’s proposal to the pressure coming from the White House. Democratic lawmakers agreed.​

Krauthammer said it best: ”The Russians were playing chess here with a set of rank amateurs.”

[Excerpt]

Read more:
Kerry: Russia Offering To Help With Syrian Chemical Weapons Because They?re Worried About Obama? | Weasel Zippers


Actually Putin and Assad were playing Chess while Obama thought they were playing checkers.

Checkers? They were playing f*cking tiddly winks, during a chess game, and claim to be on top of things.

 

[francoHFW]

Kraut is FOS LOL

 

[ScienceRocks]

Do we really want Russia leading the world? Not me...

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Do we really want Russia leading the world? Not me...

For the next 3 1/2 years they will be. It makes me sick but Putin is now in the drivers seat. I wouldn't be surprised to see our allies voting with Russia in the UN after this.

 

[waltky]

Good question...

Whose ‘Boots On the Ground’ Will Protect Weapons Inspectors in Syria?
September 16, 2013 -– When international scientific and technical personnel enter Syria to inspect, remove and destroy the regime’s chemical weapons stockpiles, they will need significant security support, raising questions about whether the Obama administration will keep its pledge to have no U.S. military deployed inside Syria.

No one is publicly saying who will provide the protection needed by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) personnel entering a war zone, yet. But the wording of the agreement negotiated between the U.S. and Russia in recent days acknowledges the need for such security – and indicates that the two countries will share a responsibility in arranging it. “The Russian Federation and the United States will work together closely, including with the OPCW, the U.N. and Syrian parties to arrange for the security of the monitoring and destruction mission, noting the primary responsibility of the Syrian government in this regard,” it says.

Under the agreement’s tight schedule, the Assad regime has one week to declare all its chemical weapons, before personnel from the technical secretariat of the OPCW – which oversees the Chemical Weapons Convention – begin initial inspections. These are due to be completed by November, with mid-2004 the target date for the arsenal’s removal and elimination. When laying out and defending the now-suspended plan for a military response to the regime’s use of chemical weapons in an August 21 attack, administration officials from the president down repeatedly have insisted that there will be no U.S. military “boots on the ground.”

A senior State Department official disclosed during a background briefing Saturday that U.S. Central Command had prepared a “quick paper” before the team led by Secretary of State John Kerry went to Geneva to negotiate with the Russians, covering “options for security” for when OPCW personnel go into Syria to implement the agreement. The official described the Central Command proposals as “broad parameters, nothing very complex – just to give us some idea of the dimensions of the security challenge to secure a site.”

The U.S. believes there are at least 45 locations in the country associated with the chemical weapons programs, all in areas controlled by the regime rather than the rebels fighting to overthrow it. “Even in a regime-controlled area, we would need considerable security,” the State Department official said. “OPCW would need considerable security for protection of the site, if nothing else. Security is still a daunting challenge, even given regime control.”

- See more at: Whose ?Boots On the Ground? Will Protect Weapons Inspectors in Syria? | CNS News

 

[waltky]

Assad already plannin' on welchin' out on agreement with Russia's blessing...

Syria may miss first deadline in US-Russia chemical arms deal
September 19, 2013 ~ The ambitious U.S.-Russian deal to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons, hailed as a diplomatic breakthrough just days ago, hit its first delay Wednesday with indications that the Syrian government will not submit an inventory of its toxic stockpiles and facilities to international inspectors by this weekend's deadline.

The State Department signaled that it would not insist that Syrian President Bashar Assad produce the list Saturday, the end of a seven-day period spelled out in the framework deal that Washington and Moscow announced last weekend in Geneva. Marie Harf, a State Department spokeswoman, said Wednesday that "our goal is to see forward momentum" by Saturday, not the full list. "We've never said it was a hard and fast deadline."

It wasn't clear whether Syrian officials needed more time to complete a formal declaration of their chemical arms, or whether the disarmament deal itself was in trouble. Secretary of State John F. Kerry had described the date as the first of several "specific timelines" that would indicate whether Syria is committed to the deal that he and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had worked out. "We agreed that Syria must submit within a week - not in 30 days, but in one week - a comprehensive listing," Kerry said Saturday. He said the U.S. would allow "no games, no room for avoidance, or anything less than full compliance."

Senior Obama administration officials had praised Russia for persuading Assad's government to relinquish its lethal chemical arsenal, one of the world's largest, by mid-2014 in a deal to avoid U.S. missile strikes in retaliation for the Aug. 21 poison gas attack that the U.S. says killed more than 1,000 people. But Moscow's ability or willingness to push its ally in Damascus to meet the first deadline in the deal now is being questioned. Kerry and Lavrov sought last weekend to portray the two powers as united. The gap between them, however, has become more apparent and is threatening to snarl efforts to craft a United Nations Security Council resolution that lays out how Syria is to meet its obligations.

The resolution needs to be complete before the first steps can be taken to impound and either remove or destroy Syria's arsenal. Diplomats said Western countries split with Russia in a meeting Tuesday over Western demands for tough enforcement of the agreement. Diplomats hope to complete the resolution by Friday, but if they fall short the work may be delayed further next week because of the meeting of the U.N. General Assembly.

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[tinydancer]

Assad already plannin' on welchin' out on agreement with Russia's blessing...

Syria may miss first deadline in US-Russia chemical arms deal
September 19, 2013 ~ The ambitious U.S.-Russian deal to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons, hailed as a diplomatic breakthrough just days ago, hit its first delay Wednesday with indications that the Syrian government will not submit an inventory of its toxic stockpiles and facilities to international inspectors by this weekend's deadline.

The State Department signaled that it would not insist that Syrian President Bashar Assad produce the list Saturday, the end of a seven-day period spelled out in the framework deal that Washington and Moscow announced last weekend in Geneva. Marie Harf, a State Department spokeswoman, said Wednesday that "our goal is to see forward momentum" by Saturday, not the full list. "We've never said it was a hard and fast deadline."

It wasn't clear whether Syrian officials needed more time to complete a formal declaration of their chemical arms, or whether the disarmament deal itself was in trouble. Secretary of State John F. Kerry had described the date as the first of several "specific timelines" that would indicate whether Syria is committed to the deal that he and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had worked out. "We agreed that Syria must submit within a week - not in 30 days, but in one week - a comprehensive listing," Kerry said Saturday. He said the U.S. would allow "no games, no room for avoidance, or anything less than full compliance."

Senior Obama administration officials had praised Russia for persuading Assad's government to relinquish its lethal chemical arsenal, one of the world's largest, by mid-2014 in a deal to avoid U.S. missile strikes in retaliation for the Aug. 21 poison gas attack that the U.S. says killed more than 1,000 people. But Moscow's ability or willingness to push its ally in Damascus to meet the first deadline in the deal now is being questioned. Kerry and Lavrov sought last weekend to portray the two powers as united. The gap between them, however, has become more apparent and is threatening to snarl efforts to craft a United Nations Security Council resolution that lays out how Syria is to meet its obligations.

The resolution needs to be complete before the first steps can be taken to impound and either remove or destroy Syria's arsenal. Diplomats said Western countries split with Russia in a meeting Tuesday over Western demands for tough enforcement of the agreement. Diplomats hope to complete the resolution by Friday, but if they fall short the work may be delayed further next week because of the meeting of the U.N. General Assembly.

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With all due respect, I don't think they are welshing. I think the timelines given are impossible to meet.

Kerry wants all the information in a week? Can't happen.

 

[Politico]

The entire world isn't worried about Obama.

 

[tinydancer]

Do we really want Russia leading the world? Not me...

Putin isn't leading the world.

All he did was offer up a common sense diplomatic solution to this issue of Syria's chemical weapons.

And you bet he has Russia's interest at heart. If the radical Islamists that Obama is backing get their hands on those weapons, how fast do you think they'd pass them on to the Chechens?

Putin doesn't need his own local terrorists getting hold of those WMD's.

 

[Katzndogz]

Putin isn't leading the world. He's just the power broker in the middle east. By the time obama is done Putin will be the world leader. Nature abhors a vacuum. Voids get filled. There is no way obama could be any kind of leader. Putin is just filling the vacuum.

 

[tinydancer]

Just to give everyone an idea of how impossible these deadlines are for Syria (in the midst of a "civil war") to meet, check this out.

Even in the United States, getting rid of chemical weapons is no easy task. When the United States signed the Chemical Weapons Convention in 1993, it was given from 1997 to 2007 to destroy its chemical weapons. By 2012, it had destroyed 90 percent of its stockpile, leaving it with 3,000 tons of chemical weapons — triple what Syria is believed to have.

The current goal is to finish the job by 2023.

And at the link the article also discusses Iraq and Libya.

A year to destroy Syria's chemical weapons is an unrealistic goal - The Week

 

[Staidhup]

I cant agree more, its a tedious task at best and Assad has no interest in losing his trump card which was demonstrated by not signing the CWC accords in 93, so expect it to drag on and on, furthermore expect the UN to sit on their hands and do nothing. As for fear of Obama, Putin handed Kerry and the big O their collective ass's on a silver platter. But then again what can one expect from Kerry and Obama they handed the leadership role over to the former head of the KGB through incompetence.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Kerry: Russia Offering To Help With Syrian Chemical Weapons Because They’re Worried About Obama…


In reality they took a John Kerry gaffe and turned it into a way to save their key ally.

Via Politico:

Secretary of State John Kerry told a closed meeting of House lawmakers that the Russian government is only seeking to help Syria because they believe the U.S. is serious about taking military action, according to multiple sources present.

The comment, which came in a classified briefing of the full House on Monday, mirrors public comments by other Obama administration officials: the threat of a military attack is working to bring the Russians to the negotiating table.

After enduring days of brutal skepticism from lawmakers of both parties, Kerry and other administration officials wasted no time in attempting to link Russia’s proposal to the pressure coming from the White House. Democratic lawmakers agreed.​

Krauthammer said it best: ”The Russians were playing chess here with a set of rank amateurs.”

[Excerpt]

Read more:
Kerry: Russia Offering To Help With Syrian Chemical Weapons Because They?re Worried About Obama? | Weasel Zippers


Actually Putin and Assad were playing Chess while Obama thought they were playing checkers.

Checkers? They were playing f*cking tiddly winks, during a chess game, and claim to be on top of things.

Mouse trap?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Just to give everyone an idea of how impossible these deadlines are for Syria (in the midst of a "civil war") to meet, check this out.

Even in the United States, getting rid of chemical weapons is no easy task. When the United States signed the Chemical Weapons Convention in 1993, it was given from 1997 to 2007 to destroy its chemical weapons. By 2012, it had destroyed 90 percent of its stockpile, leaving it with 3,000 tons of chemical weapons — triple what Syria is believed to have.

The current goal is to finish the job by 2023.

And at the link the article also discusses Iraq and Libya.

A year to destroy Syria's chemical weapons is an unrealistic goal - The Week

Whose dog is chasing its tail? The U.S. can change the rules. Now the U.N. can too?

Chemical weapons can be mass-marketed overnight.

 

[waltky]

QuickHit wrote: Mouse trap?

More like...

... The Mouse That Roared.

 

[Montecresto]

Do we really want Russia leading the world? Not me...

Why not?

 

[Montecresto]

Do we really want Russia leading the world? Not me...

For the next 3 1/2 years they will be. It makes me sick but Putin is now in the drivers seat. I wouldn't be surprised to see our allies voting with Russia in the UN after this.

Good, maybe the world will see a little less war.