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Poland STOPS supplying Ukraine with weapons to fight Russia
Poland STOPS supplying Ukraine with weapons to fight Russia
Poland has taken a “Poland First” position it seems. This is an action by Poland for Poland’s national security interests. Why cannot the USA do the same? Here, if you want to stop supporting Zelensky, you are deemed pro-Putin. Well now, Poland certainly is not pro-Putin. Poland loathes the Russians and has much history upon which to base their disdain.
Likewise, America has complex interests. It is not in our national interest to prolong a war in Eastern Europe by continuing to give the clear underdog the means to keep fighting. Ukraine is not going to force Russia out of Ukraine militarily. The longer the conflict festers, the greater chance there is for this war to spill over to other countries.
When we give a country weapons due to said recipient facing the possibility of an attack, that act is usually a diplomatic move and not a strategic military move. Diplomatically, it signals our support for that country in the conflict. We usually do not supply them with the amount of weapons we have supplied to Ukraine. It has happened a handful of times through history, but it is most certainly not the rule.
Our giving Ukraine weapons started out as a diplomatic act. Then, with absolutely no domestic consensus, it escalated to us arming Ukraine for a strategic military purpose (proxy war). There has been no debate in Congress over this; there has been no national discussion. Instead, the left is doing it and seeks to shut down anyone daring to question what they are doing. Is THIS the “democracy” Democrats fear losing?
We have our own security issues to concern ourselves with. Supporting an ongoing war against Russia is contra our interests. Sure, what they are doing to Ukraine is horrific. But that does not have to be our concern. Russia will go no farther than Ukraine because if they do they will be attacking NATO countries. Russia would be the aggressor in a clear attack on NATO. They are not going to do something so stupid.
We need to broker a peace. We have great leverage to do this because America is the one that is prolonging the war. We need to try and force the sides to accept a deal of some sort. I have ideas on this but will not get into them here.
Poland STOPS supplying Ukraine with weapons to fight Russia
Poland has taken a “Poland First” position it seems. This is an action by Poland for Poland’s national security interests. Why cannot the USA do the same? Here, if you want to stop supporting Zelensky, you are deemed pro-Putin. Well now, Poland certainly is not pro-Putin. Poland loathes the Russians and has much history upon which to base their disdain.
Likewise, America has complex interests. It is not in our national interest to prolong a war in Eastern Europe by continuing to give the clear underdog the means to keep fighting. Ukraine is not going to force Russia out of Ukraine militarily. The longer the conflict festers, the greater chance there is for this war to spill over to other countries.
When we give a country weapons due to said recipient facing the possibility of an attack, that act is usually a diplomatic move and not a strategic military move. Diplomatically, it signals our support for that country in the conflict. We usually do not supply them with the amount of weapons we have supplied to Ukraine. It has happened a handful of times through history, but it is most certainly not the rule.
Our giving Ukraine weapons started out as a diplomatic act. Then, with absolutely no domestic consensus, it escalated to us arming Ukraine for a strategic military purpose (proxy war). There has been no debate in Congress over this; there has been no national discussion. Instead, the left is doing it and seeks to shut down anyone daring to question what they are doing. Is THIS the “democracy” Democrats fear losing?
We have our own security issues to concern ourselves with. Supporting an ongoing war against Russia is contra our interests. Sure, what they are doing to Ukraine is horrific. But that does not have to be our concern. Russia will go no farther than Ukraine because if they do they will be attacking NATO countries. Russia would be the aggressor in a clear attack on NATO. They are not going to do something so stupid.
We need to broker a peace. We have great leverage to do this because America is the one that is prolonging the war. We need to try and force the sides to accept a deal of some sort. I have ideas on this but will not get into them here.