EatMorChikin
Gold Member
Muslim sympathizers, like Khan, are accessories to murder.
Wait, so, if you sympathize with something that some people use to kill, then you are an accessory to murder?
So, if you support the US military, if you voted for George W. Bush, if you supported the war in Iraq, you're an accessory to mass murder.
You consider the military mass murderers, that says a lot about you right there.
Everything can be presented in different ways. You haven't made an argument, you're trying to put pressure on me not to think in the way I've described by saying "that says a lot about you right there."
To be honest I'm getting fed up of having attacks like that, or often much worse, in an effort to try and pressure me into thinking your way.
In 2003 the US military went into Iraq. After the invasion came the process of causing problems. The Iraqi Armed Forces and Police were disbanded, and the US Armed Forces took over these roles. The resulting impact on the country was devastating.
Many of the people who were there at the beginning were there because they had joined up to the military before 9/11. But after 9/11 people were joining up the military to support Bush's war on Islam.
Now, a lot of the soldiers didn't make the policy that was an absolute disaster, but they carried out the orders. In Nazi Germany (This is NOT a comparison, this is making a point) and the Concentration Camps, many Germans did not make the policy of the camps, but they were still considered part of the process and therefore guilty of crimes. In the same way, US military personal carrying out the orders of a government that was clearly doing something wrong, have a manner of guilt above their head.
They set up the conditions for ISIS, for al Qaeda to exist and grow.
I agree with a lot of this. But soldiers can't defy orders. In Nazi Germany it probably meant death. In the United States, the punishment isn't as severe, but it will lead to a court martial most likely, and surely a dishonorable discharge.
Whatever the circumstances are, that lead to an armed conflict. It's extremely unfair to label our soldiers as "murderers". They are trained to not question orders,. And we have certainly not went to the level, of the previously mentioned death camps in Germany. Iraq was a mistake, and so was taking out the man, who kept the sunnis in check. But that's political, and soldiers don't live in that world.
Well that's the point isn't it? There are those who make policy, and those who carry it out. The point was that those carrying it all out are also guilty. So, soldiers are guilty if they carry out orders that are wrong, according to someone I was replying to.
I didn't label soldiers as murderers, the person I was replying to did.
Well I don't believe soldiers should be held accountable.Not even for historical atrocities. Putting a bullet in your own head, to escape such orders may be comendable. But defying Joeseph Mengle or Adolph Hitler, certainly would not have offered a fun outcome.