Sen. Rand Paul Testifies Before Congress On Mandatory Minimum Drug Convictions...

[Katzndogz]

Rand Paul is just about as good as it gets. No one has been able to point out a change of position. Yes, no one is perfect and he's a bit too libertarian. At this point, we have to play the cards we are dealt. If it's between Rand Paul and Hillary Clinton, her ties to the muslim brotherhood should automatically make her ineligible.

 

[RKMBrown]

I agree with him. I won't vote for him as I think he is just a politician doing what he has to to get elected president and changes his positions like the wind changes.

You are wrong. I assume, because you are an authoritarian that is incapable of supporting people who consistently defend liberty, and think that said consistency is the same as changing positions with the wind. This due to the fact that authoritarians only view authoritative views in the positive. For example, authoritative conservatives believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality. As another example, authoritative modern progressive liberals believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality.

He's very consistent. But I can see how that would "confuse" you.

 

[jasonnfree]

I agree with him. I won't vote for him as I think he is just a politician doing what he has to to get elected president and changes his positions like the wind changes.

I haven't observed that with Rand. I've judged him on his voting record so far in the Senate. And his voting record has been consistent with most of my views. I don't know what else you can ask of a Politician. They're not gonna be perfect. And that's the main problem i have with many staunch Libertarians. They tend to complain too much. They want the perfect candidate. And that's just not gonna happen. It's that 'all or nothing mentality' that has given us another 4yrs. of Communist-rule. It can't always be all or nothing with Libertarians. They too often come off as whiny petulant children. They're turning off people who would otherwise possibly take an interest in Libertarianism. I like Rand. So far i've been very impressed.

Another 4 years of communist rule. Why do you say this? If anything, Obama veers to the right. Look at his appointments, job czars etc. Obamacare is a republican health care plan with the involvement of for profit corporations.

 

[paulitician]

Rand Paul is just about as good as it gets. No one has been able to point out a change of position. Yes, no one is perfect and he's a bit too libertarian. At this point, we have to play the cards we are dealt. If it's between Rand Paul and Hillary Clinton, her ties to the muslim brotherhood should automatically make her ineligible.

Yeah, you won't find the perfect candidate. And that's the big problem i have with some of my staunch Libertarian friends. Many have not followed Dr. Paul's lead by welcoming in new blood. They've been far too rigid and confrontational. And i have to admit, i've been guilty of that myself. The 'All or Nothing' mentality can make a person feel better about themselves, but it can be very destructive. Rand Paul is one of the very few Politicians i can say i'm proud of. Is he his Dad? No, of course not. And he never will be. He's his own man. The Son is more pragmatic than the Father. I can live with that. I'll continue to closely observe his voting record. That's how i make my decisions on whether or not i'll throw my support to em.

 

[jasonnfree]

Rand Paul is just about as good as it gets. No one has been able to point out a change of position. Yes, no one is perfect and he's a bit too libertarian. At this point, we have to play the cards we are dealt. If it's between Rand Paul and Hillary Clinton, her ties to the muslim brotherhood should automatically make her ineligible.

Hope this rand paul guy runs. I'll bet against him and win some money. I don't think there are that many loons in the repiglickan party but I could be wrong.

 

[paulitician]

I agree with him. I won't vote for him as I think he is just a politician doing what he has to to get elected president and changes his positions like the wind changes.

I haven't observed that with Rand. I've judged him on his voting record so far in the Senate. And his voting record has been consistent with most of my views. I don't know what else you can ask of a Politician. They're not gonna be perfect. And that's the main problem i have with many staunch Libertarians. They tend to complain too much. They want the perfect candidate. And that's just not gonna happen. It's that 'all or nothing mentality' that has given us another 4yrs. of Communist-rule. It can't always be all or nothing with Libertarians. They too often come off as whiny petulant children. They're turning off people who would otherwise possibly take an interest in Libertarianism. I like Rand. So far i've been very impressed.

Another 4 years of communist rule. Why do you say this? If anything, Obama veers to the right. Look at his appointments, job czars etc. Obamacare is a republican health care plan with the involvement of for profit corporations.

Obama's roots are in Communist/Globalist ideals. He's been trained and indoctrinated on them his whole life.

 

[Pete7469]

Rand Paul is just about as good as it gets. No one has been able to point out a change of position. Yes, no one is perfect and he's a bit too libertarian. At this point, we have to play the cards we are dealt. If it's between Rand Paul and Hillary Clinton, her ties to the muslim brotherhood should automatically make her ineligible.

Yeah, you won't find the perfect candidate. And that's the big problem i have with some of my staunch Libertarian friends. Many have not followed Dr. Paul's lead by welcoming in new blood. They've been far too rigid and confrontational. And i have to admit, i've been guilty of that myself. The 'All or Nothing' mentality can make a person feel better about themselves, but it can be very destructive. Rand Paul is one of the very few Politicians i can say i'm proud of. Is he his Dad? No, of course not. And he never will be. He's his own man. The Son is more pragmatic than the Father. I can live with that. I'll continue to closely observe his voting record. That's how i make my decisions on whether or not i'll throw my support to em.

Same here, I call them paulbots. They're way too rigid in their devotion. Ron was not absolutely perfect IMO, in fact I didn't care for all of his anti-war talk. I think if he focused on domestic issues knowing the wars would be over regardless, he would have done much better and perhaps been the nominee. I still can't believe we ended up with Romney.

 

[Pete7469]

Obama veers to the right?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The War on Drugs was lost before it began.

We will save far more people for useful lives if most drugs are decriminalized, their sale regulated and taxed, and the proceeds go to prison and drug rehabilitation programs.

 

[FJO]

"A third of African-American males are prevented from voting."

Is that claim true?

That is an astonishing figure.

If they are convicted felons, one third of all white males are also prevented from voting.

That is an astonishing figure, isn't it?

Tough luck, but that is the law, for black or white.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

"A third of African-American males are prevented from voting."

Is that claim true?

That is an astonishing figure.

All inmates are prevented from voting in elections regardless of color.

If 1/3 or more of the black population is incarcerated then it would make sense.

I am not trying to be racist here, I have many black friends who tell me that it is lack of education and involvement as to why black people don't vote. Not that anyone is denying them access.

It makes sense because convicted felons cannot vote here in the land of the free.

 

[FJO]

The War on Drugs was lost before it began.

We will save far more people for useful lives if most drugs are decriminalized, their sale regulated and taxed, and the proceeds go to prison and drug rehabilitation programs.

The war on poverty was lost before it began.

We will save far more useful lives if useless welfare collecting drones are put to work and proceeds from their taxes go to the abandoned spouses and children.

 

[National Socialist]

I haven't observed that with Rand. I've judged him on his voting record so far in the Senate. And his voting record has been consistent with most of my views. I don't know what else you can ask of a Politician. They're not gonna be perfect. And that's the main problem i have with many staunch Libertarians. They tend to complain too much. They want the perfect candidate. And that's just not gonna happen. It's that 'all or nothing mentality' that has given us another 4yrs. of Communist-rule. It can't always be all or nothing with Libertarians. They too often come off as whiny petulant children. They're turning off people who would otherwise possibly take an interest in Libertarianism. I like Rand. So far i've been very impressed.

He threw his father under the bus and endorsed Romney that was
the end of me supporting Rand. I am a National Socialist so no one for me to vote for anyways...I want the worst of the worst...this country needs to collapse.

Seems very petty and confusing. Rand would never throw his own Father under the bus. So that's absurd. And if you really are a National Socialist, i find it hard to fathom how you could have ever supported Rand at all. Him and his Dad aren't exactly known for their Socialist/Communist leanings. So far, Rand Paul has done a great job in the Senate. I base my support on voting records. And for me anyway, Rand's about as good as it gets at this point.

Really? So what do you call endorsing your fathers opponent while your father is still in the race? I was fooled to think the free market/libertarian/"liberty" bullshit was a good thing.

I agree with him. I won't vote for him as I think he is just a politician doing what he has to to get elected president and changes his positions like the wind changes.

You are wrong. I assume, because you are an authoritarian that is incapable of supporting people who consistently defend liberty, and think that said consistency is the same as changing positions with the wind. This due to the fact that authoritarians only view authoritative views in the positive. For example, authoritative conservatives believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality. As another example, authoritative modern progressive liberals believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality.

He's very consistent. But I can see how that would "confuse" you.

Not an Authoritarian I simply care about people and refuse to let the poor,disabled and homeless fend for themselves and allow corporations and rich assholes take advantage of a free market economy and make themselves richer while everyone else gets the shaft. Liberty...you mean the liberty to not help the poor and disabled,to be able to keep ALL of your money and not make sure your fellow man is taken care of...you get extremely disgustingly rich while they set up home under a bridge somewhere...yeah we know what your idea of liberty is. For rich people by rich people.

 

[RKMBrown]

He threw his father under the bus and endorsed Romney that was
the end of me supporting Rand. I am a National Socialist so no one for me to vote for anyways...I want the worst of the worst...this country needs to collapse.

Seems very petty and confusing. Rand would never throw his own Father under the bus. So that's absurd. And if you really are a National Socialist, i find it hard to fathom how you could have ever supported Rand at all. Him and his Dad aren't exactly known for their Socialist/Communist leanings. So far, Rand Paul has done a great job in the Senate. I base my support on voting records. And for me anyway, Rand's about as good as it gets at this point.

Really? So what do you call endorsing your fathers opponent while your father is still in the race? I was fooled to think the free market/libertarian/"liberty" bullshit was a good thing.

I agree with him. I won't vote for him as I think he is just a politician doing what he has to to get elected president and changes his positions like the wind changes.

You are wrong. I assume, because you are an authoritarian that is incapable of supporting people who consistently defend liberty, and think that said consistency is the same as changing positions with the wind. This due to the fact that authoritarians only view authoritative views in the positive. For example, authoritative conservatives believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality. As another example, authoritative modern progressive liberals believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality.

He's very consistent. But I can see how that would "confuse" you.

Not an Authoritarian I simply care about people and refuse to let the poor,disabled and homeless fend for themselves and allow corporations and rich assholes take advantage of a free market economy and make themselves richer while everyone else gets the shaft. Liberty...you mean the liberty to not help the poor and disabled,to be able to keep ALL of your money and not make sure your fellow man is taken care of...you get extremely disgustingly rich while they set up home under a bridge somewhere...yeah we know what your idea of liberty is. For rich people by rich people.

Rand Paul, by contrast to you, is a good honest respectable man. Your view of doing good for people by robbing from peter to pay paul, is typical of stupid jealous common good for nothing low down scum of the earth criminals.

 

[National Socialist]

Seems very petty and confusing. Rand would never throw his own Father under the bus. So that's absurd. And if you really are a National Socialist, i find it hard to fathom how you could have ever supported Rand at all. Him and his Dad aren't exactly known for their Socialist/Communist leanings. So far, Rand Paul has done a great job in the Senate. I base my support on voting records. And for me anyway, Rand's about as good as it gets at this point.

Really? So what do you call endorsing your fathers opponent while your father is still in the race? I was fooled to think the free market/libertarian/"liberty" bullshit was a good thing.

You are wrong. I assume, because you are an authoritarian that is incapable of supporting people who consistently defend liberty, and think that said consistency is the same as changing positions with the wind. This due to the fact that authoritarians only view authoritative views in the positive. For example, authoritative conservatives believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality. As another example, authoritative modern progressive liberals believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality.

He's very consistent. But I can see how that would "confuse" you.

Not an Authoritarian I simply care about people and refuse to let the poor,disabled and homeless fend for themselves and allow corporations and rich assholes take advantage of a free market economy and make themselves richer while everyone else gets the shaft. Liberty...you mean the liberty to not help the poor and disabled,to be able to keep ALL of your money and not make sure your fellow man is taken care of...you get extremely disgustingly rich while they set up home under a bridge somewhere...yeah we know what your idea of liberty is. For rich people by rich people.

Rand Paul, by contrast to you, is a good honest respectable man. Your view of doing good for people by robbing from peter to pay paul, is typical of stupid jealous common good for nothing low down scum of the earth criminals.

LMAO...He is none of the above. Ya know he thinks Libertarians are just pot smoking people who want to run around naked?Quite funny actually.Actually my view of doing good is making sure EVERY able bodied man and woman that wants a job has a job just like in NS Germany and every disabled,elderly person is taken care of. Course in my nation there would be 1 race not a multicult society so people wouldn't be afraid to have a little racial pride in where they come from and their accomplishments as a race.I am jealous of nothing especially someone who has no honor or pride and puts politics above his principles and beliefs...well supposed beliefs anyways. You whining is quite comical. You people will never get even close to real power in this country but maybe its a good thing if you were allowed to have power and absolutely destroy this country then the people could see how bad things can really be with absolutely no safety net and open borders so all the illegals get to come in and take ANY job the poor would have to try and get since they have no safety net. Libertardians are extremely naive if they seriously think the old/disabled/etc will be taken care of merely by charities...Like I said good reasons rich pricks like the Koch brothers invest in libertarian candidates and causes.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Really? So what do you call endorsing your fathers opponent while your father is still in the race? I was fooled to think the free market/libertarian/"liberty" bullshit was a good thing.


Not an Authoritarian I simply care about people and refuse to let the poor,disabled and homeless fend for themselves and allow corporations and rich assholes take advantage of a free market economy and make themselves richer while everyone else gets the shaft. Liberty...you mean the liberty to not help the poor and disabled,to be able to keep ALL of your money and not make sure your fellow man is taken care of...you get extremely disgustingly rich while they set up home under a bridge somewhere...yeah we know what your idea of liberty is. For rich people by rich people.

Rand Paul, by contrast to you, is a good honest respectable man. Your view of doing good for people by robbing from peter to pay paul, is typical of stupid jealous common good for nothing low down scum of the earth criminals.

LMAO...He is none of the above. Ya know he thinks Libertarians are just pot smoking people who want to run around naked?Quite funny actually.Actually my view of doing good is making sure EVERY able bodied man and woman that wants a job has a job just like in NS Germany and every disabled,elderly person is taken care of. Course in my nation there would be 1 race not a multicult society so people wouldn't be afraid to have a little racial pride in where they come from and their accomplishments as a race.I am jealous of nothing especially someone who has no honor or pride and puts politics above his principles and beliefs...well supposed beliefs anyways. You whining is quite comical. You people will never get even close to real power in this country but maybe its a good thing if you were allowed to have power and absolutely destroy this country then the people could see how bad things can really be with absolutely no safety net and open borders so all the illegals get to come in and take ANY job the poor would have to try and get since they have no safety net. Libertardians are extremely naive if they seriously think the old/disabled/etc will be taken care of merely by charities...Like I said good reasons rich pricks like the Koch brothers invest in libertarian candidates and causes.

Cash your fraudulently obtained welfare check and shut the fuck up loser

 

[paulitician]

He threw his father under the bus and endorsed Romney that was
the end of me supporting Rand. I am a National Socialist so no one for me to vote for anyways...I want the worst of the worst...this country needs to collapse.

Seems very petty and confusing. Rand would never throw his own Father under the bus. So that's absurd. And if you really are a National Socialist, i find it hard to fathom how you could have ever supported Rand at all. Him and his Dad aren't exactly known for their Socialist/Communist leanings. So far, Rand Paul has done a great job in the Senate. I base my support on voting records. And for me anyway, Rand's about as good as it gets at this point.

Really? So what do you call endorsing your fathers opponent while your father is still in the race? I was fooled to think the free market/libertarian/"liberty" bullshit was a good thing.

I agree with him. I won't vote for him as I think he is just a politician doing what he has to to get elected president and changes his positions like the wind changes.

You are wrong. I assume, because you are an authoritarian that is incapable of supporting people who consistently defend liberty, and think that said consistency is the same as changing positions with the wind. This due to the fact that authoritarians only view authoritative views in the positive. For example, authoritative conservatives believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality. As another example, authoritative modern progressive liberals believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality.

He's very consistent. But I can see how that would "confuse" you.

Not an Authoritarian I simply care about people and refuse to let the poor,disabled and homeless fend for themselves and allow corporations and rich assholes take advantage of a free market economy and make themselves richer while everyone else gets the shaft. Liberty...you mean the liberty to not help the poor and disabled,to be able to keep ALL of your money and not make sure your fellow man is taken care of...you get extremely disgustingly rich while they set up home under a bridge somewhere...yeah we know what your idea of liberty is. For rich people by rich people.

Rand Paul did not throw his Father under the bus. That's just plain absurd. He loves his Dad, but they don't agree on everything. And what Father & Son does? He's his own man. I can assure you his Dad loves & respects him for that.

 

[paulitician]

Rand Paul is just about as good as it gets. No one has been able to point out a change of position. Yes, no one is perfect and he's a bit too libertarian. At this point, we have to play the cards we are dealt. If it's between Rand Paul and Hillary Clinton, her ties to the muslim brotherhood should automatically make her ineligible.

Yeah, you won't find the perfect candidate. And that's the big problem i have with some of my staunch Libertarian friends. Many have not followed Dr. Paul's lead by welcoming in new blood. They've been far too rigid and confrontational. And i have to admit, i've been guilty of that myself. The 'All or Nothing' mentality can make a person feel better about themselves, but it can be very destructive. Rand Paul is one of the very few Politicians i can say i'm proud of. Is he his Dad? No, of course not. And he never will be. He's his own man. The Son is more pragmatic than the Father. I can live with that. I'll continue to closely observe his voting record. That's how i make my decisions on whether or not i'll throw my support to em.

Same here, I call them paulbots. They're way too rigid in their devotion. Ron was not absolutely perfect IMO, in fact I didn't care for all of his anti-war talk. I think if he focused on domestic issues knowing the wars would be over regardless, he would have done much better and perhaps been the nominee. I still can't believe we ended up with Romney.

Yeah like i said, i've been guilty of taking the 'All or Nothing' approach myself. I regret that now. I've been very critical of some of my staunch Libertarian friends. Many have been way too confrontational and unwelcoming. They've been way too quick to label everyone a 'Statist' and so on. They need to be more open and welcoming. They really should follow Ron Paul's lead on that. The Movement is growing, but it could grow much faster. I don't want more Communist/Globalist-rule. So Pols like Rand Paul are our only hope of seeing that end. I'm satisfied with his voting record in the Senate so far. And that's all i can ask of a Politician.

 

[National Socialist]

Seems very petty and confusing. Rand would never throw his own Father under the bus. So that's absurd. And if you really are a National Socialist, i find it hard to fathom how you could have ever supported Rand at all. Him and his Dad aren't exactly known for their Socialist/Communist leanings. So far, Rand Paul has done a great job in the Senate. I base my support on voting records. And for me anyway, Rand's about as good as it gets at this point.

Really? So what do you call endorsing your fathers opponent while your father is still in the race? I was fooled to think the free market/libertarian/"liberty" bullshit was a good thing.

You are wrong. I assume, because you are an authoritarian that is incapable of supporting people who consistently defend liberty, and think that said consistency is the same as changing positions with the wind. This due to the fact that authoritarians only view authoritative views in the positive. For example, authoritative conservatives believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality. As another example, authoritative modern progressive liberals believe in taking liberty to improve their positions on morality.

He's very consistent. But I can see how that would "confuse" you.

Not an Authoritarian I simply care about people and refuse to let the poor,disabled and homeless fend for themselves and allow corporations and rich assholes take advantage of a free market economy and make themselves richer while everyone else gets the shaft. Liberty...you mean the liberty to not help the poor and disabled,to be able to keep ALL of your money and not make sure your fellow man is taken care of...you get extremely disgustingly rich while they set up home under a bridge somewhere...yeah we know what your idea of liberty is. For rich people by rich people.

Rand Paul did not throw his Father under the bus. That's just plain absurd. He loves his Dad, but they don't agree on everything. And what Father & Son does? He's his own man. I can assure you his Dad loves & respects him for that.

Blind Allegiance...scary thing there...you sound like an Obama supporter.You still haven't told me what you call what Rand did to his father...you call that loyalty? His father's supporters are the only reason Rand is a Senator right now and he turns around and endorses his enemy in the primaries...

 

[paulitician]

Really? So what do you call endorsing your fathers opponent while your father is still in the race? I was fooled to think the free market/libertarian/"liberty" bullshit was a good thing.


Not an Authoritarian I simply care about people and refuse to let the poor,disabled and homeless fend for themselves and allow corporations and rich assholes take advantage of a free market economy and make themselves richer while everyone else gets the shaft. Liberty...you mean the liberty to not help the poor and disabled,to be able to keep ALL of your money and not make sure your fellow man is taken care of...you get extremely disgustingly rich while they set up home under a bridge somewhere...yeah we know what your idea of liberty is. For rich people by rich people.

Rand Paul did not throw his Father under the bus. That's just plain absurd. He loves his Dad, but they don't agree on everything. And what Father & Son does? He's his own man. I can assure you his Dad loves & respects him for that.

Blind Allegiance...scary thing there...you sound like an Obama supporter.You still haven't told me what you call what Rand did to his father...you call that loyalty? His father's supporters are the only reason Rand is a Senator right now and he turns around and endorses his enemy in the primaries...

Ask his Father how he feels about it. I assure you, he loves and respects his Son for being his own man. No Father & Son can agree on everything. It has nothing to do with throwing anyone under a bus. And check his voting record. That tells the story. While not perfect, Rand Paul has done a great job so far in the Senate. He's earned my support.