Serious discussion on "Diversity, Equity, Inclusion"

[IM2]

You are so full of chit that it ain't even funny... lol

Whites have given themselves preferential treatment, but then all of a sudden whites decided to sacrifice everything in order to rescue the blacks. If it weren't for that, I hate to see where you all would be if whites didn't say enough of the slavery and discrimination already in this country, and it began to change for the better.

You try your best not to include any of that in your constant hate whitey bull chit that you pull on this site everytime you open your hate filled mouth.

LOL! Robert Jones says it best.

“From its inception, the country’s legal foundations, political architecture, and civic fabric were designed to privilege the well-being of those who declared themselves white at the expense of Native Americans, African Americans, and other people of color. Generation after generation, as the baldest tactics were challenged, white America creatively renewed and reworked this pact to protect ourselves from political disempowerment, economic uncertainty, legal jeopardy, and physical violence. When the weight of the blood spilled by over 750,000 Americans shattered outright slavery, white America picked up the shards, fashioning them into a ramshackle but effective system of sharecropping, lynching, convict leasing, segregationist Jim Crow laws, restrictive immigration policies, appeals to “states’ rights,” voter suppression, and mass incarceration.”
-Robert P. Jones

You posted fiction. Without what whites have done and continue doing, we'd be far better off.

 

[DukeU]

There are 4 black head coaches in the NFL right now.

How many white RB's are there?

 

[beagle9]

LOL! Robert Jones says it best.

“From its inception, the country’s legal foundations, political architecture, and civic fabric were designed to privilege the well-being of those who declared themselves white at the expense of Native Americans, African Americans, and other people of color. Generation after generation, as the baldest tactics were challenged, white America creatively renewed and reworked this pact to protect ourselves from political disempowerment, economic uncertainty, legal jeopardy, and physical violence. When the weight of the blood spilled by over 750,000 Americans shattered outright slavery, white America picked up the shards, fashioning them into a ramshackle but effective system of sharecropping, lynching, convict leasing, segregationist Jim Crow laws, restrictive immigration policies, appeals to “states’ rights,” voter suppression, and mass incarceration.”
-Robert P. Jones

You posted fiction. Without what whites have done and continue doing, we'd be far better off.

Not all whites you race hustling wanna be.

You see, this is why you keep failing so miserably in life. Is there no hope for you ? Pity, but then again it's more like I pity you when it comes time for you to stand in judgement before God one day.

Repent, and wake up before your time expires on this earth. There will be no blaming one another in the after life, so stop wasting time by hating as the evil one's do on earth. It consumes your soul, and it destroys you. Wake up before it's too late...

 

[GMCGeneral]

I have read post after post at USMB, on X, on Facebook and elsewhere that:

1. Accuse Trump, Musk et al of racism, being Nazis, being fascists or whatever because they reject DEI in favor of qualifications, credentials, competence, effectiveness, efficiency, aptitude, vision, intuition .

2. Insist that society benefits when DEI is the criteria for hiring, appointments, promotions even if qualifications need to be lowered to achieve it.

Well if diversity is based on skin color I offer this chart for consideration:



And if LGBTQX++++ is to be included as the goal for DEI it further begs the question.

What question?

THIS QUESTION:
How does choosing people based on skin color, sexual orientation, gender preference, ethnicity, etc. improve the quality of life for all Americans? Makes America more free, more secure, more efficient, more effective, more prosperous? How does it make the military better? Commerce and industry better? Those values important to most American better?

Can we keep this more or less on topic and civil?

It doesn't. DEI completely throws merit, experience, and quality out the window just to satisfy quotas or ideology.

 

[Lisa558]

Not all whites you race hustling wanna be.

You see, this is why you keep failing so miserably in life. Is there no hope for you ? Pity, but then again it's more like I pity you when it comes time for you to stand in judgement before God one day.

Repent, and wake up before your time expires on this earth. There will be no blaming one another in the after life, so stop wasting time by hating as the evil one's do on earth. It consumes your soul, and it destroys you. Wake up before it's too late...

The main reason blacks like IM2 are so damaging to blacks in general is that he wants them to blame racism for any and all failures in life rather than take ownership over their own actions and choices.

That puts blacks in a position to rely on other people - over whom they have no control - Instead of themselves, and keeps them angry and feeling like victims.

That is, btw, why he and leftists in general are so resentful of Jews. This beleaguered minority, subject to horrific persecution for thousands of years, still manages to overcome all that to be not only successful - but above average. IOW, it makes it hard for leftists to “excuse” failure in the black community by blaming bigotry.

 

[Lisa558]

It doesn't. DEI completely throws merit, experience, and quality out the window just to satisfy quotas or ideology.

….and before you know it, wheels fly off planes, you get several near misses on the tarmac, and eventually a helicopter crashes into a jet.

 

[beagle9]

The main reason blacks like IM2 are so damaging to blacks in general is that he wants them to blame racism for any and all failures in life rather than take ownership over their own actions and choices.

That puts blacks in a position to rely on other people - over whom they have no control - Instead of themselves, and keeps them angry and feeling like victims.

That is, btw, why he and leftists in general are so resentful of Jews. This beleaguered minority, subject to horrific persecution for thousands of years, still manages to overcome all that to be not only successful - but above average. IOW, it makes it hard for leftists to “excuse” failure in the black community by blaming bigotry.

Key point is blaming other's for the failures one clearly commits in life. Sure we as humans will always have people who hate us or don't like us, and have nothing to do with us, but when any of us take refuge in Christ, and group ourselves together for good, then the haters and destroyers fail miserably right before our very eyes.

IM2's hatred and blame game is at a level in which shows brainwashing and possibly a bad upbringing. He chooses hate over love, and he excuses himself of his hatred because he has leaned in for an attempt to apply it wrongfully for political reason's, and for his and their agenda. He can't see his wrong headed ways of thinking as a flaw, and that's truly sad.

 

[Tyrion234]

Key point is blaming other's for the failures one clearly commits in life. Sure we as humans will always have people who hate us or don't like us, and have nothing to do with us, but when any of us take refuge in Christ, and group ourselves together for good, then the haters and destroyers fail miserably right before our very eyes.

IM2's hatred and blame game is at a level in which shows brainwashing and possibly a bad upbringing. He chooses hate over love, and he excuses himself of his hatred because he has leaned in for an attempt to apply it wrongfully for political reason's, and for his and their agenda. He can't see his wrong headed ways of thinking as a flaw, and that's truly sad.

That…..and well……he’s black…..

 

[beagle9]

That…..and well……he’s black…..

He uses his blackness as a weapon, and many great successful educated and raised up in the Christian way type of black folks disapprove of such a thing that he is doing in the name of their skin color.

 

[Lisa558]

He uses his blackness as a weapon, and many great successful educated and raised up in the Christian way type of black folks disapprove of such a thing that he is doing in the name of their skin color.

This is why I am beginning to suspect that Newsvine and IM2 are the same people. Besides making reference to the book “they” are writing - which of course blames whites for everything - Newsvine has a weird signature line: The norm for blacks is excellence if they are given the opportunity.

Nowhere does it state that the norm for blacks is excellence if they make the right choices, have the discipline and drive to succeed, and of course have the ability and intelligence to reach that level. She blames the inability of any and blacks to excel on lack of opportunity.

(I’m not excellent in tennis or skiing - both which I’ve always enjoyed. I was good in the first and passable in the latter. I MIGHT have become excellent in either, but I wasn’t interested in putting forth the effort and work it would take, and even so, I might not have had it “in me” to be excellent.)

 

[konradv]

I have read post after post at USMB, on X, on Facebook and elsewhere that:

1. Accuse Trump, Musk et al of racism, being Nazis, being fascists or whatever because they reject DEI in favor of qualifications, credentials, competence, effectiveness, efficiency, aptitude, vision, intuition .

2. Insist that society benefits when DEI is the criteria for hiring, appointments, promotions even if qualifications need to be lowered to achieve it.

Well if diversity is based on skin color I offer this chart for consideration:



And if LGBTQX++++ is to be included as the goal for DEI it further begs the question.

What question?

THIS QUESTION:
How does choosing people based on skin color, sexual orientation, gender preference, ethnicity, etc. improve the quality of life for all Americans? Makes America more free, more secure, more efficient, more effective, more prosperous? How does it make the military better? Commerce and industry better? Those values important to most American better?

Can we keep this more or less on topic and civil?

It’s not just skin color. You’re part of the problem. MAGA “men” don’t like girl bosses, so y’all got to go, too. Why do you think there’s so much anger at AOC and Crockett, melanin AND estrogen?!

 

[Dragonlady]

It doesn't. DEI completely throws merit, experience, and quality out the window just to satisfy quotas or ideology.

Bullshit. DEI throws out the assumption that a white man is the most qualified person for the job, and gives consideration to qualified women, and racial minorities. That's ALL it does.

Even under DEI, straight white men got more jobs than their percentage of the population. Every single hiring study including those which mixed up resumes and names showed that when HR staff thought the applicant was white, that applicant received more call backs than those who were perceived as non-white.

Futhermore, the BIGGEST beneficiaries of DEI were WHITE WOMEN, not racial minorities.

But you continue to believe the lies.

 

[Correll]

Bullshit. DEI throws out the assumption that a white man is the most qualified person for the job, and gives consideration to qualified women, and racial minorities. That's ALL it does.
.....

Was that what happened with Kamala?

Or did Biden decide to hire a black woman before he even started looking?

We can't have a real discussion on these issues, because libs refuse to be honest about them.

 

[Foxfyre]

It’s not just skin color. You’re part of the problem. MAGA “men” don’t like girl bosses, so y’all got to go, too. Why do you think there’s so much anger at AOC and Crockett, melanin AND estrogen?!

And show you evidence that MAGA men don't like girl bosses. Another assigned talking point from the dishonest left? I will concede that MAGA men don't like incompetent or bad girl bosses. They don't like incompetent or bad boy bosses either. And maybe only men like you like the words and actions of people like AOC and Crockett?

Since when are batshit crazy women off limits for criticism?

 

[beagle9]

This is why I am beginning to suspect that Newsvine and IM2 are the same people. Besides making reference to the book “they” are writing - which of course blames whites for everything - Newsvine has a weird signature line: The norm for blacks is excellence if they are given the opportunity.

Nowhere does it state that the norm for blacks is excellence if they make the right choices, have the discipline and drive to succeed, and of course have the ability and intelligence to reach that level. She blames the inability of any and blacks to excel on lack of opportunity.

(I’m not excellent in tennis or skiing - both which I’ve always enjoyed. I was good in the first and passable in the latter. I MIGHT have become excellent in either, but I wasn’t interested in putting forth the effort and work it would take, and even so, I might not have had it “in me” to be excellent.)

The blame game is a ploy to skip the line and go straight to the front. How many times have you seen this in life now ? I've seen it so much that I knew that there was a pattern of it being seen more and more where individuals would form a group think that then creates a coordinated effort or mindset to be pushed as if it is a justifiable thing to do. Then the government is needed to reinforce the thinking by backing it whenever it is challenged.

The government is now changing, and those who haven't had the chance to skip the line's are losing it.

 

[Dragonlady]

Was that what happened with Kamala?

Or did Biden decide to hire a black woman before he even started looking?

We can't have a real discussion on these issues, because libs refuse to be honest about them.

Your assumption that the woman with 20 years of government experience, having been elected and re-elected to every office she's ever held, for more than 20 years, including being AG of California, makes her "less qualified" than JD Vance who spent 2 years in the Senate is laughable.

Kamala is the MOST qualified candidate for the Oval Office since Hillary Clinton. Who you also voted against in favour of the lying criminal conman. You have a pattern of picking the guy who both completely unqualified for the job, and who is out to destroy the nation. Why is that Correll???

You see how that argument utterly falls apart when you try it???

 

[konradv]

And show you evidence that MAGA men don't like girl bosses. Another assigned talking point from the dishonest left? I will concede that MAGA men don't like incompetent or bad girl bosses. They don't like incompetent or bad boy bosses either. And maybe only men like you like the words and actions of people like AOC and Crockett?

Since when are batshit crazy women off limits for criticism?

People aren’t getting a hearing, so how do you know they’re incompetent? They’re just being labeled DEI and fired.

 

[Foxfyre]

People aren’t getting a hearing, so how do you know they’re incompetent? They’re just being labeled DEI and fired.

Not so. Those fired have not been showing up for work and/or haven't been working when they do show up and/or the agency they work for has produced nothing of value for years. We cannot continue to support a bloated and unmanageable government that exists for its own sake and no longer serves the people. If 10 people can efficiently and effectively do the work that 100 employees were doing before, 90 people should find other jobs.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Your assumption that the woman with 20 years of government experience, having been elected and re-elected to every office she's ever held, for more than 20 years, including being AG of California, makes her "less qualified" than JD Vance who spent 2 years in the Senate is laughable.

Kamala is the MOST qualified candidate for the Oval Office since Hillary Clinton. Who you also voted against in favour of the lying criminal conman. You have a pattern of picking the guy who both completely unqualified for the job, and who is out to destroy the nation. Why is that Correll???

You see how that argument utterly falls apart when you try it???

Laughable as Kuntmala is a hard Left radical just like you

 

[beagle9]

Not so. Those fired have not been showing up for work and/or haven't been working when they do show up and/or the agency they work for has produced nothing of value for years. We cannot continue to support a bloated and unmanageable government that exists for its own sake and no longer serves the people. If 10 people can efficiently and effectively do the work that 100 employees were doing before, 90 people should find other jobs.

Don't you see Fox, they want everything to be taken before the leftist judge, and that's exactly why they put those judges in place. It was to protect their minion's, and to protect their agenda through judgefare.