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(COMMENT)HOW does an American Christian respond to this story? I am filled with shame, as a Christian and as an American, that my country supports and funds this illegal settler war criminal enterprise in Occupied Palestine.
Christa Case Bryant said:The weekend resignation of Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad calls into question not only the political career of a Western darling, but also the paradigm he pioneered: self-empowerment instead of victimhood.
SOURCE: US loses a West Bank darling with resignation of Palestinian prime minister - CSMonitor.com
Summary Congressional Research Service 7-5700 RS-22967 U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians said:From FY2008 to the present, annual regular-year U.S. bilateral assistance to the West Bank and Gaza Strip has averaged around $500 million, including annual averages of approximately $200 million in direct budgetary assistance and $100 million in non-lethal security assistance for the PA in the West Bank. Additionally, the United States is the largest single-state donor to the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA). However, whether UNRWA’s role productively addresses the refugee issue in the context of efforts to mitigate or resolve the larger Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains a polarizing question.
SOURCE: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22967.pdf
So....Where is the flag?
lol.
Still, I cannot see the flag, and the photo from the article is months old.
So we basically trust their words?
Ha!
how nice.
So....Where is the flag?
So....Where is the flag?
I DO NOT have follow up information addressing what happened subsequently. BUT the fact illegal settlers are allowed to freely occupy Palestinian property and engage in acts like this speaks loudly about the illegal settler war criminal enterprise operating in Occupied Palestine. I THINK a terrorist designation for this group is warranted!
SherriMunnerlyn, et al,
There is a little more to this story than I think is being told.
(COMMENT)HOW does an American Christian respond to this story? I am filled with shame, as a Christian and as an American, that my country supports and funds this illegal settler war criminal enterprise in Occupied Palestine.
The Monastery of the Silent Monks at Latrun (Ecumenical Oblates of Saint Benedict --- Roman Catholic) is not actually in Jerusalem (I've been there); but more in, what is called, the Central Lowland Strip or Shfela. It is in the horseshoe of No-man's Land just off the southwest quadrant of the intersection of Highway 1 and Highway 3. It is quite a famous religious place (lots of American visitors/tourists) and has been generally under the de facto protection of the Israelis since 1993. It is part of the 3% (the horseshoe) that Israel would have kept if the final status negotiations had been accepted, brokered by Ambasador Dennis Ross (US Chief Negotiator for the Arab-Israeli Conflict - 1990's era - and active still today) at Camp David and Taba, when Israel originally made the overture to return control of 97% of the land in the West Bank and all of Gaza to the Palestinians (an offer to virtually end occupation).
Interesting enough, is the resignation over the last week, has had an impact.
Christa Case Bryant said:The weekend resignation of Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad calls into question not only the political career of a Western darling, but also the paradigm he pioneered: self-empowerment instead of victimhood.
SOURCE: US loses a West Bank darling with resignation of Palestinian prime minister - CSMonitor.com
I think the western world liked Dr Fayyad because he wanted to change the image of the Palestinian from a whinny and arrogant bunch of cry-babies to a nation on track to build and develop economically and industrially (like most nations). Of course, Hamas and the PA President Mahmoud Abbas’s Fatah Party associates still want to play the role of the perpetual victim.
(POINT OF ORDER)
Contrary to popular believe, the US doesn't provide any funding for Israeli Settlements in the West Bank, or security barriers. You won't find it anywhere in the budget. That is because the US doesn't want Israel expansion to continue until a final agreement is made. But the US is the largest single donor to the PA.
Summary Congressional Research Service 7-5700 RS-22967 U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians said:From FY2008 to the present, annual regular-year U.S. bilateral assistance to the West Bank and Gaza Strip has averaged around $500 million, including annual averages of approximately $200 million in direct budgetary assistance and $100 million in non-lethal security assistance for the PA in the West Bank. Additionally, the United States is the largest single-state donor to the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA). However, whether UNRWA’s role productively addresses the refugee issue in the context of efforts to mitigate or resolve the larger Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains a polarizing question.
SOURCE: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22967.pdf
Most Respectfully,
R
SherriMunnerlyn, et al,
There is a little more to this story than I think is being told.
(COMMENT)HOW does an American Christian respond to this story? I am filled with shame, as a Christian and as an American, that my country supports and funds this illegal settler war criminal enterprise in Occupied Palestine.
The Monastery of the Silent Monks at Latrun (Ecumenical Oblates of Saint Benedict --- Roman Catholic) is not actually in Jerusalem (I've been there); but more in, what is called, the Central Lowland Strip or Shfela. It is in the horseshoe of No-man's Land just off the southwest quadrant of the intersection of Highway 1 and Highway 3. It is quite a famous religious place (lots of American visitors/tourists) and has been generally under the de facto protection of the Israelis since 1993. It is part of the 3% (the horseshoe) that Israel would have kept if the final status negotiations had been accepted, brokered by Ambasador Dennis Ross (US Chief Negotiator for the Arab-Israeli Conflict - 1990's era - and active still today) at Camp David and Taba, when Israel originally made the overture to return control of 97% of the land in the West Bank and all of Gaza to the Palestinians (an offer to virtually end occupation).
Interesting enough, is the resignation over the last week, has had an impact.
I think the western world liked Dr Fayyad because he wanted to change the image of the Palestinian from a whinny and arrogant bunch of cry-babies to a nation on track to build and develop economically and industrially (like most nations). Of course, Hamas and the PA President Mahmoud Abbass Fatah Party associates still want to play the role of the perpetual victim.
(POINT OF ORDER)
Contrary to popular believe, the US doesn't provide any funding for Israeli Settlements in the West Bank, or security barriers. You won't find it anywhere in the budget. That is because the US doesn't want Israel expansion to continue until a final agreement is made. But the US is the largest single donor to the PA.
Summary Congressional Research Service 7-5700 RS-22967 U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians said:From FY2008 to the present, annual regular-year U.S. bilateral assistance to the West Bank and Gaza Strip has averaged around $500 million, including annual averages of approximately $200 million in direct budgetary assistance and $100 million in non-lethal security assistance for the PA in the West Bank. Additionally, the United States is the largest single-state donor to the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA). However, whether UNRWAs role productively addresses the refugee issue in the context of efforts to mitigate or resolve the larger Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains a polarizing question.
SOURCE: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22967.pdf
Most Respectfully,
R
This was a terrorist act, if someone came to Churches in my state today and tried to put up a foreign flag they will get lucky if they do not get blown away. My state just passed a law allowing concealed weapons to be carried even on church premises. And where I live, the values are God and guns, and guns come first to many. Fuck with them carrying a gun, you start a war! Teachers I know are getting permits to carry concealed weapons, some churches are advising their members to carry guns, even megachurches in surrounding states like Bellevue Baptist Church in Tennesseee. (Not my Church, thank God).
The fact is this Church is in Occupied Palestine, settlers forcefully occupying the church violates intl law. Even if it were in Israel, that does not give any person the right to force the owners from their land or to force a flag to be raised there. Two issues, here, this is Occupied Palestine, a place where Israel has zero sovereignty rights. Second, no matter what state has rights over land, individual property owners have no right to just be forced from their lands by the State in control.
The US does fund the Occupation, with the millions of dollars we give to Israel every day, 6 to 7 billion dolaars a year of aid the US taxpayers give to Israel to maintain the Occupation of Palestine. The fact we do this operates to make many people hate the US and causes terrorism against us. And the solution is for us to stop funding the Occupation, and there is no other solution.
Sherri
Frau Sherri, that "good Christian woman" doesn't care what happens to her fellow Christians if the Jews are not involved, Jroc. I wonder if Frau Sherri can tell us some solution whereby her friends will start respecting those of other religions instead of harassing and killing them as well as destroying their Houses of Worship or replacing their House of Worship with a mosque. Since Frau Sherri is telling us about the concealed weapons in her state, perhaps she had better tell her extremist friends that they had better not start up in her area.SherriMunnerlyn, et al,
There is a little more to this story than I think is being told.
(COMMENT)
The Monastery of the Silent Monks at Latrun (Ecumenical Oblates of Saint Benedict --- Roman Catholic) is not actually in Jerusalem (I've been there); but more in, what is called, the Central Lowland Strip or Shfela. It is in the horseshoe of No-man's Land just off the southwest quadrant of the intersection of Highway 1 and Highway 3. It is quite a famous religious place (lots of American visitors/tourists) and has been generally under the de facto protection of the Israelis since 1993. It is part of the 3% (the horseshoe) that Israel would have kept if the final status negotiations had been accepted, brokered by Ambasador Dennis Ross (US Chief Negotiator for the Arab-Israeli Conflict - 1990's era - and active still today) at Camp David and Taba, when Israel originally made the overture to return control of 97% of the land in the West Bank and all of Gaza to the Palestinians (an offer to virtually end occupation).
Interesting enough, is the resignation over the last week, has had an impact.
I think the western world liked Dr Fayyad because he wanted to change the image of the Palestinian from a whinny and arrogant bunch of cry-babies to a nation on track to build and develop economically and industrially (like most nations). Of course, Hamas and the PA President Mahmoud Abbass Fatah Party associates still want to play the role of the perpetual victim.
(POINT OF ORDER)
Contrary to popular believe, the US doesn't provide any funding for Israeli Settlements in the West Bank, or security barriers. You won't find it anywhere in the budget. That is because the US doesn't want Israel expansion to continue until a final agreement is made. But the US is the largest single donor to the PA.
Most Respectfully,
R
This was a terrorist act, if someone came to Churches in my state today and tried to put up a foreign flag they will get lucky if they do not get blown away. My state just passed a law allowing concealed weapons to be carried even on church premises. And where I live, the values are God and guns, and guns come first to many. Fuck with them carrying a gun, you start a war! Teachers I know are getting permits to carry concealed weapons, some churches are advising their members to carry guns, even megachurches in surrounding states like Bellevue Baptist Church in Tennesseee. (Not my Church, thank God).
The fact is this Church is in Occupied Palestine, settlers forcefully occupying the church violates intl law. Even if it were in Israel, that does not give any person the right to force the owners from their land or to force a flag to be raised there. Two issues, here, this is Occupied Palestine, a place where Israel has zero sovereignty rights. Second, no matter what state has rights over land, individual property owners have no right to just be forced from their lands by the State in control.
The US does fund the Occupation, with the millions of dollars we give to Israel every day, 6 to 7 billion dolaars a year of aid the US taxpayers give to Israel to maintain the Occupation of Palestine. The fact we do this operates to make many people hate the US and causes terrorism against us. And the solution is for us to stop funding the Occupation, and there is no other solution.
Sherri
Churches burn in the muslim world, Christians are killed and raped simply because they are Christians and this is what you post fraud?
SherriMunnerlyn, et al,
There is a little more to this story than I think is being told.
(COMMENT)
The Monastery of the Silent Monks at Latrun (Ecumenical Oblates of Saint Benedict --- Roman Catholic) is not actually in Jerusalem (I've been there); but more in, what is called, the Central Lowland Strip or Shfela. It is in the horseshoe of No-man's Land just off the southwest quadrant of the intersection of Highway 1 and Highway 3. It is quite a famous religious place (lots of American visitors/tourists) and has been generally under the de facto protection of the Israelis since 1993. It is part of the 3% (the horseshoe) that Israel would have kept if the final status negotiations had been accepted, brokered by Ambasador Dennis Ross (US Chief Negotiator for the Arab-Israeli Conflict - 1990's era - and active still today) at Camp David and Taba, when Israel originally made the overture to return control of 97% of the land in the West Bank and all of Gaza to the Palestinians (an offer to virtually end occupation).
Interesting enough, is the resignation over the last week, has had an impact.
I think the western world liked Dr Fayyad because he wanted to change the image of the Palestinian from a whinny and arrogant bunch of cry-babies to a nation on track to build and develop economically and industrially (like most nations). Of course, Hamas and the PA President Mahmoud Abbass Fatah Party associates still want to play the role of the perpetual victim.
(POINT OF ORDER)
Contrary to popular believe, the US doesn't provide any funding for Israeli Settlements in the West Bank, or security barriers. You won't find it anywhere in the budget. That is because the US doesn't want Israel expansion to continue until a final agreement is made. But the US is the largest single donor to the PA.
Most Respectfully,
R
This was a terrorist act, if someone came to Churches in my state today and tried to put up a foreign flag they will get lucky if they do not get blown away. My state just passed a law allowing concealed weapons to be carried even on church premises. And where I live, the values are God and guns, and guns come first to many. Fuck with them carrying a gun, you start a war! Teachers I know are getting permits to carry concealed weapons, some churches are advising their members to carry guns, even megachurches in surrounding states like Bellevue Baptist Church in Tennesseee. (Not my Church, thank God).
The fact is this Church is in Occupied Palestine, settlers forcefully occupying the church violates intl law. Even if it were in Israel, that does not give any person the right to force the owners from their land or to force a flag to be raised there. Two issues, here, this is Occupied Palestine, a place where Israel has zero sovereignty rights. Second, no matter what state has rights over land, individual property owners have no right to just be forced from their lands by the State in control.
The US does fund the Occupation, with the millions of dollars we give to Israel every day, 6 to 7 billion dolaars a year of aid the US taxpayers give to Israel to maintain the Occupation of Palestine. The fact we do this operates to make many people hate the US and causes terrorism against us. And the solution is for us to stop funding the Occupation, and there is no other solution.
Sherri
Churches burn in the muslim world, Christians are killed and raped simply because they are Christians and this is what you post fraud?
This was a terrorist act, if someone came to Churches in my state today and tried to put up a foreign flag they will get lucky if they do not get blown away. My state just passed a law allowing concealed weapons to be carried even on church premises. And where I live, the values are God and guns, and guns come first to many. Fuck with them carrying a gun, you start a war! Teachers I know are getting permits to carry concealed weapons, some churches are advising their members to carry guns, even megachurches in surrounding states like Bellevue Baptist Church in Tennesseee. (Not my Church, thank God).
The fact is this Church is in Occupied Palestine, settlers forcefully occupying the church violates intl law. Even if it were in Israel, that does not give any person the right to force the owners from their land or to force a flag to be raised there. Two issues, here, this is Occupied Palestine, a place where Israel has zero sovereignty rights. Second, no matter what state has rights over land, individual property owners have no right to just be forced
from their lands by the State in control.
The US does fund the Occupation, with the millions of dollars we give to Israel every day, 6
to 7 billion dolaars a year of aid the US taxpayers give to Israel to maintain the Occupation of Palestine. The fact we do this operates to make many people hate the US and causes
terrorism against us. And the solution is for us to stop funding the Occupation, and there is
no other solution.
Sherri
Churches burn in the muslim world, Christians are killed and raped simply because they are
Christians and this is what you post fraud?
This is an Israel Palestine discussion board, so I post about settler attacks upon Christians in Israel/Palestine.
So....Where is the flag?
I DO NOT have follow up information addressing what happened subsequently. BUT the fact illegal settlers are allowed to freely occupy Palestinian property and engage in acts like this speaks loudly about the illegal settler war criminal enterprise operating in Occupied Palestine. I THINK a terrorist designation for this group is warranted!
///So....Where is the flag?
I ask again. Where is the flag? Where is the provocation?
I expect such thing to be caught on cam. I do not see any proof of accuracy in the article to point out any of this really happened.
Basically you ask the reader to trust their words.
I do not.
///// Lipush---she also claims that Baptists ---its a sect of christianity---
in the US----- would kill anyone who put an israeli flag on a church.
Interestingly enough---a very commonly used name for baptist
churches includes the word "ZION" as in "FIRST BAPTIST ////
CHURCH OF ZION" She claimed that the word ZION did
not exist in the lexicon until 1897 when Herzl invented it.
The religion "baptist" is prevalent in southern USA----most
of the baptists I knew as a kid were blacks--with roots in the
south----but later on ----in the navy I came upon lots of
southern whites---also baptists ----one of my closest colleagues
in the navy was a texan baptist ----and when my son was stationed
in the south he was regularly invited to their churches ----I have
also witnessed church doings in baptist churches----very charming--
they sing and clap their hands -----like Luvavitch Chassids---
they like to use some hebrew words in their songs--which
are really strange to them so they mispronounce them ---Elvis
Presley was a baptist. He did some baptist songs----which included
some mispronounced hebrew words . It is more likely that a few
have Israeli flags---than that they would kill someone for displaying
one
They should give the settlers blankets, like we did with the indians. That seemed to have worked.
