Missouri_Mike
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Finally found someone on the same page as I am.
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They don't live in shithole countries because no country is a shithole but if you don't let them come here you condemn them to living in a shithole and that's just cruel.
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Other people have pointed this out, but Trump is saying: We should pick immigrants according to our needs.
The left is fighting this claiming that it is immoral to think about ourselves; we must think only of the immigrants' plight.
But why are they in a "plight" at all? What would be immoral about just leaving them where they are now?
Because, of course, they live in shitholes. That's what the left puts forth to change this argument from one of rational self-interest (pick immigrants and number of immigrants according to our own changing needs) to one of absolute moral imperative -- we must let them in because to leave them in their current countries would be cruel and inhuman.
There's only one kind of place it would be cruel to leave someone -- that's right, a shithole.
So they can choose between screaming that we are morally obligated to lift immigrants out of their shitholes, or they can scream that it's a travesty to call these countries shitholes, but they can't do both.
Their entire spittle-flinging, tearing-eyed, red-faced moral meltdown relies foundationally on the idea that these people live in shitholes and only a monster would condemn someone to continue living in such states of abject shitholery.
So it cannot be any kind of foul to acknowledge that.
They don't live in shithole countries because no country is a shithole but if you don't let them come here you condemn them to living in a shithole and that's just cruel.