Since we know that trickledown economics is a GOP lie, why are republicans still opposed to taxing the very wealthy more?

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.
Stop coveting other people's success/money. Stealing from the rich is not a noble strategy.

Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.
CLAIM:

>Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.

RATING: FALSE


Source:

The average CEO salary in the United States is $766,500 as of February 26, 2021


It's closer to 20 times.
 
The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

yeah, and you probably expect somebody on welfare to sign your paycheck...wont happen chairman mao
 
But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority.

So, the solution is ... MORE rich people ... I'm all for that.

But, if your solution is to loot the rich and spread it around to Joe Bowling Shirt until it's all gone. That's not a very sustainable solution.

If you want more wealth, encourage more people to be wealthy, don't shame them, praise them.
Go suck Bill Gates dick. Then come back and tell us how it tasted.
 
And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.
Stop coveting other people's success/money. Stealing from the rich is not a noble strategy.

Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.
CLAIM:

>Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.

RATING: FALSE


Source:

The average CEO salary in the United States is $766,500 as of February 26, 2021


It's closer to 20 times.
thats not nearly as much as the massive wealth obama has collected
 
The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.
It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.
> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.
Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.
the wealthy already pay not just more taxs but the majority of taxs,,

If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes. They don't. But yes, they do pay the majority of the taxes at the federal and state level. But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority. You leave out the taxes that are not figured in on an annual or quarterly basis.
because thats not what taxs are for in this country,, youre thinking of a socialist country,,

here taxs are for paying government bills not pet projects and supporting people that refuse to work or pay taxs,,

Oohhh, did I trigger your Socialist button again? The second you start raising "Socialism" means you are just blowing it out your ass.
so I'm right and you have no defense or response,,,

sorry to burst your bubble,,

how about you stick to the discussion and stop deflecting???

So you announce yourself as the winner and expect everyone else to aknowleged that you are just blowing smoke after you have been cornered. Hey go for it.
when did I declare myself a winner??

I responded to you and you ignored it and went off in a different direction,,

I can only guess you didnt like me proving your point wrong and wanted to change the subject,,
 
The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.
It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.
> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.
Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.
the wealthy already pay not just more taxs but the majority of taxs,,

If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes. They don't. But yes, they do pay the majority of the taxes at the federal and state level. But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority. You leave out the taxes that are not figured in on an annual or quarterly basis.
> If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes.

No. Wealth is acquired over a lifetime through hard work.

Not sure why you think you can confiscate other people's property they have already paid taxes on to acquire. Self-entitiled much?
The former president received a large inheritance from Fred, not hard work.
 
And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.
Stop coveting other people's success/money. Stealing from the rich is not a noble strategy.

Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.
CLAIM:

>Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.

RATING: FALSE


Source:

The average CEO salary in the United States is $766,500 as of February 26, 2021


It's closer to 20 times.
thats not nearly as much as the massive wealth obama has collected
Do tell about that massive wealth bitch.
 
But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority.

So, the solution is ... MORE rich people ... I'm all for that.

But, if your solution is to loot the rich and spread it around to Joe Bowling Shirt until it's all gone. That's not a very sustainable solution.

If you want more wealth, encourage more people to be wealthy, don't shame them, praise them.
Go suck Bill Gates dick. Then come back and tell us how it tasted.
bill gates lifelong democrat
 
And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.
Stop coveting other people's success/money. Stealing from the rich is not a noble strategy.

Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.
CLAIM:

>Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.

RATING: FALSE


Source:

The average CEO salary in the United States is $766,500 as of February 26, 2021


It's closer to 20 times.
thats not nearly as much as the massive wealth obama has collected
Do tell about that massive wealth bitch.
bill gates warren buffet oprah lebron beyonce bezos zuckerberg....all the most obscenely rich are...wait for it now...democrats!!!!!!!!
 
But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority.

So, the solution is ... MORE rich people ... I'm all for that.

But, if your solution is to loot the rich and spread it around to Joe Bowling Shirt until it's all gone. That's not a very sustainable solution.

If you want more wealth, encourage more people to be wealthy, don't shame them, praise them.

I am using your own original logic. If the top 99% of the income goes to the top 20% of the population (and it does) then the top 20% should pay 99% of ALL the taxes including the total sales tax, fuel tax and everything else.

When you are driving on the Interstate, the Rich aren't paying their fair share of it. But originally (in the 50s and 60s) the Rich did pay for it. When you are heating your house using Natural Gas, the rich didn't pay their fair share installing the gas lines to transport it. Or when you turn on your lights. Or when you go by a gas pump, the Rich aren't paying their fair share of the gas taxes. And then are the loopholes in the Federal and State Taxes that the Rich take advantage of that the normal person can't.

You want it fair, have the top 20% pay 99% of all taxes and they can keep their wealth.
 
He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.
and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.
so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?
not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.
the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

You typed so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??. In common sense speak, that's Homeless. And yes, even Homeless pay some taxes even if it's just sales tax.
youre avoiding the context of my statement and why I said it,,

why did you do that??

Hurry up and get to the point of calling me a communists so we can get to the next level.
better to just stick to the discussion,,

why wont you do that??

You strayed, I just expanded on it. You are just angry that you can't control me. Good friggin luck. My Exwife learned that as well.

\
 
But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority.

So, the solution is ... MORE rich people ... I'm all for that.

But, if your solution is to loot the rich and spread it around to Joe Bowling Shirt until it's all gone. That's not a very sustainable solution.

If you want more wealth, encourage more people to be wealthy, don't shame them, praise them.

I am using your own original logic. If the top 99% of the income goes to the top 20% of the population (and it does) then the top 20% should pay 99% of ALL the taxes including the total sales tax, fuel tax and everything else.

When you are driving on the Interstate, the Rich aren't paying their fair share of it. But originally (in the 50s and 60s) the Rich did pay for it. When you are heating your house using Natural Gas, the rich didn't pay their fair share installing the gas lines to transport it. Or when you turn on your lights. Or when you go by a gas pump, the Rich aren't paying their fair share of the gas taxes. And then are the loopholes in the Federal and State Taxes that the Rich take advantage of that the normal person can't.

You want it fair, have the top 20% pay 99% of all taxes and they can keep their wealth.
they pay far beyond their fair share,,,
 
He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.
and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.
so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?
not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.
the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

You typed so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??. In common sense speak, that's Homeless. And yes, even Homeless pay some taxes even if it's just sales tax.
youre avoiding the context of my statement and why I said it,,

why did you do that??

Hurry up and get to the point of calling me a communists so we can get to the next level.
better to just stick to the discussion,,

why wont you do that??

You strayed, I just expanded on it. You are just angry that you can't control me. Good friggin luck. My Exwife learned that as well.

\


I didnt stray and you totally went a different direction because I proved your point wrong,,
 
He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.
and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.
so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?
not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.
the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

You typed so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??. In common sense speak, that's Homeless. And yes, even Homeless pay some taxes even if it's just sales tax.
youre avoiding the context of my statement and why I said it,,

why did you do that??

Hurry up and get to the point of calling me a communists so we can get to the next level.
better to just stick to the discussion,,

why wont you do that??

You strayed, I just expanded on it. You are just angry that you can't control me. Good friggin luck. My Exwife learned that as well.

\
how about we go back to comment #45 and start over??
 
Since we know that trickledown economics is a GOP lie

We do?

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.

You know which state has the largest wealth inequality? California, the state with your most progressive tax system.
 
Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.

All that example shows is the CEO has come up with an idea that more of the average people want and are able to afford. Capitalism is great ain't it?!?

Generally speaking, CEOs don't come up with too may of those brilliant ideas. It's done by committee.
 
He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.
and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.
so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?
not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.
the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

You typed so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??. In common sense speak, that's Homeless. And yes, even Homeless pay some taxes even if it's just sales tax.
youre avoiding the context of my statement and why I said it,,

why did you do that??

Hurry up and get to the point of calling me a communists so we can get to the next level.
better to just stick to the discussion,,

why wont you do that??

You strayed, I just expanded on it. You are just angry that you can't control me. Good friggin luck. My Exwife learned that as well.

\
how about we go back to comment #45 and start over??

I think we have already moved on. Sorry,no control allowed You get back on track and if I think it's worth contributing I'll do so.
 
He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.
and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.
so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?
not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.
the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

You typed so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??. In common sense speak, that's Homeless. And yes, even Homeless pay some taxes even if it's just sales tax.
youre avoiding the context of my statement and why I said it,,

why did you do that??

Hurry up and get to the point of calling me a communists so we can get to the next level.
better to just stick to the discussion,,

why wont you do that??

You strayed, I just expanded on it. You are just angry that you can't control me. Good friggin luck. My Exwife learned that as well.

\
how about we go back to comment #45 and start over??

I think we have already moved on. Sorry,no control allowed You get back on track and if I think it's worth contributing I'll do so.
your surrender is accepted,,
 
The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

currently about 50% of the population pay nothing in taxs and the uber rich pay the highest part of taxs,,

fix that problem and we can talk about you stupid idea,,

We certainly can fix that problem. 99% of the wealth is owned by the top 20%. But the top 20% pay less than 99% of the taxes. Using your logic, we lower the percentage of wealth to the top 20%. Wonder how that's going to go over?
sounds like youre jealous,,,

maybe you should stop being a lazy piece of shit and get out there and do something,,


all of these rich people employ hundreds or thousands of people and when they use their money to buy the nice stuff they also help the job market,,

paying higher taxs takes money from the people and gives it to the government to waste on turtle tunnels and gender studies in pakistan,,

No it doesn't. A case in point was a guy here that owned an entire chain of McDonalds. He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers. He was being interviewed in the Airport on his 6th vacation that year to Hawaii. Meanwhile, his workers were all on the poverty list. And before you go off on all the jobs were being done by High Schoolers, they weren't. The Job Market has forced some people with families to have to take those jobs with no future of advancement.

Trickle only works on trickle up.



The thing is, he is lying about having to cut workers because of minimum wage.

The only reason why an employer will cut workers is if there are more workers than actual work to be done.

If the McDonald's employer cuts workers without having a reduction in business, he will cause a reduction of business because people aren't going to wait around in a long line waiting for an order. They are going to go to the restaurant that has enough workers to properly handle the job of running the day to day business.

A lot of what the rich say about increased wages and taxes is nothing but a lie to prevent from having to pay their workers a living wage and having to pay their fair share in taxes.
 

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