Since we know that trickledown economics is a GOP lie, why are republicans still opposed to taxing the very wealthy more?

[progressive hunter]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

Estate tax proposal from Bernie Sanders would mean big bills for America's wealthiest

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently introduced an estate tax plan that specifically lists the wealthiest Americans.

www.yahoo.com

I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.

Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.

the wealthy already pay not just more taxs but the majority of taxs,,

 

[Vrenn]

Considering that they don't spend more money

Aside from the fact that the rich invest their money in countless ways the poor use.

Do the rich use banks to "hoard" their money? Do those banks in turn loan out that money to people who need it? And, what do they do with the money after they receive the loan?

Do a google search on Company Store.

 

[Vrenn]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?

not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.

 

[Vrenn]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

Estate tax proposal from Bernie Sanders would mean big bills for America's wealthiest

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently introduced an estate tax plan that specifically lists the wealthiest Americans.

www.yahoo.com

I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.

Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.

the wealthy already pay not just more taxs but the majority of taxs,,

If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes. They don't. But yes, they do pay the majority of the taxes at the federal and state level. But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority. You leave out the taxes that are not figured in on an annual or quarterly basis.

 

[progressive hunter]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?

not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.

the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

 

[progressive hunter]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

Estate tax proposal from Bernie Sanders would mean big bills for America's wealthiest

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently introduced an estate tax plan that specifically lists the wealthiest Americans.

www.yahoo.com

I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.

Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.

the wealthy already pay not just more taxs but the majority of taxs,,

If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes. They don't. But yes, they do pay the majority of the taxes at the federal and state level. But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority. You leave out the taxes that are not figured in on an annual or quarterly basis.

because thats not what taxs are for in this country,, youre thinking of a socialist country,,

here taxs are for paying government bills not pet projects and supporting people that refuse to work or pay taxs,,

 

[Vrenn]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?

not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.

the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

You typed so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??. In common sense speak, that's Homeless. And yes, even Homeless pay some taxes even if it's just sales tax.

 

[progressive hunter]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?

not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.

the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

You typed so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??. In common sense speak, that's Homeless. And yes, even Homeless pay some taxes even if it's just sales tax.

youre avoiding the context of my statement and why I said it,,

why did you do that??

 

[Vrenn]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

Estate tax proposal from Bernie Sanders would mean big bills for America's wealthiest

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently introduced an estate tax plan that specifically lists the wealthiest Americans.

www.yahoo.com

I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.

Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.

the wealthy already pay not just more taxs but the majority of taxs,,

If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes. They don't. But yes, they do pay the majority of the taxes at the federal and state level. But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority. You leave out the taxes that are not figured in on an annual or quarterly basis.

because thats not what taxs are for in this country,, youre thinking of a socialist country,,

here taxs are for paying government bills not pet projects and supporting people that refuse to work or pay taxs,,

Oohhh, did I trigger your Socialist button again? The second you start raising "Socialism" means you are just blowing it out your ass.

 

[Vrenn]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?

not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.

the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

You typed so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??. In common sense speak, that's Homeless. And yes, even Homeless pay some taxes even if it's just sales tax.

youre avoiding the context of my statement and why I said it,,

why did you do that??

Hurry up and get to the point of calling me a communists so we can get to the next level.

 

[progressive hunter]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

Estate tax proposal from Bernie Sanders would mean big bills for America's wealthiest

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently introduced an estate tax plan that specifically lists the wealthiest Americans.

www.yahoo.com

I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.

Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.

the wealthy already pay not just more taxs but the majority of taxs,,

If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes. They don't. But yes, they do pay the majority of the taxes at the federal and state level. But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority. You leave out the taxes that are not figured in on an annual or quarterly basis.

because thats not what taxs are for in this country,, youre thinking of a socialist country,,

here taxs are for paying government bills not pet projects and supporting people that refuse to work or pay taxs,,

Oohhh, did I trigger your Socialist button again? The second you start raising "Socialism" means you are just blowing it out your ass.

so I'm right and you have no defense or response,,,

sorry to burst your bubble,,

how about you stick to the discussion and stop deflecting???

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We know that trickle up poverty is a reality.

So you're just going to deflect the topic like a little bitch?

No, I am going to tell you that FUCK YOU, COMMIE we're not doing communism or socialism. We will kill everybody and go to Valhalla before allowing that communist shit, so give it up.

I understand that you rightwing douches lack the nuance and critical thinking to understand my point, but at some point you have to figure it out. I am not suggesting we abolish capitalism. I’m saying we create a private market system that is more egalitarian.

All I read from your post was "social justice, bourgeoisie, tax the productive, government is god, proletariat, proletariat, proletariat."

Your "nuance" is nothing but a distinction without a difference.

Government does nothing with tax money but waste it on bullshit, including way too much defense spending.

Government should get MUCH less.

 

[progressive hunter]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?

not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,

If you can't see it then you really shouldn't be in this discussion.

the discussion is taxing the wealthy not homeless people having jobs ,, and has nothing to do with my comment,,

why did you ignore my comment???

You typed so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??. In common sense speak, that's Homeless. And yes, even Homeless pay some taxes even if it's just sales tax.

youre avoiding the context of my statement and why I said it,,

why did you do that??

Hurry up and get to the point of calling me a communists so we can get to the next level.

better to just stick to the discussion,,

why wont you do that??

 

[DukeU]

Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.

All that example shows is the CEO has come up with an idea that more of the average people want and are able to afford. Capitalism is great ain't it?!?

 

[Billy000]

We know that trickle up poverty is a reality.

So you're just going to deflect the topic like a little bitch?

No, I am going to tell you that FUCK YOU, COMMIE we're not doing communism or socialism. We will kill everybody and go to Valhalla before allowing that communist shit, so give it up.

I understand that you rightwing douches lack the nuance and critical thinking to understand my point, but at some point you have to figure it out. I am not suggesting we abolish capitalism. I’m saying we create a private market system that is more egalitarian.

All I read from your post was "social justice, bourgeoisie, tax the productive, government is god, proletariat, proletariat, proletariat."

Your "nuance" is nothing but a distinction without a difference.

Government does nothing with tax money but waste it on bullshit, including way too much defense spending.

Government should get MUCH less.

Lol yes you believe and listen to only what you want to.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

Estate tax proposal from Bernie Sanders would mean big bills for America's wealthiest

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently introduced an estate tax plan that specifically lists the wealthiest Americans.

www.yahoo.com

I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.

Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.

the wealthy already pay not just more taxs but the majority of taxs,,

If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes. They don't. But yes, they do pay the majority of the taxes at the federal and state level. But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority. You leave out the taxes that are not figured in on an annual or quarterly basis.

> If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes.

No. Wealth is acquired over a lifetime through hard work.

Not sure why you think you can confiscate other people's property they have already paid taxes on to acquire. Self-entitiled much?

 

[hadit]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

Estate tax proposal from Bernie Sanders would mean big bills for America's wealthiest

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently introduced an estate tax plan that specifically lists the wealthiest Americans.

www.yahoo.com

So if it doesn't immediately effect me, I'm not supposed to care about it? Democrats are selfish. That, and no one with a pair of functioning brain cells believes they would stop there. They would quickly redefine as wealthy the upper middle class, then the rest of the middle class, and eventually everyone pays higher taxes.

 

[fncceo]

But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority.

So, the solution is ... MORE rich people ... I'm all for that.

But, if your solution is to loot the rich and spread it around to Joe Bowling Shirt until it's all gone. That's not a very sustainable solution.

If you want more wealth, encourage more people to be wealthy, don't shame them, praise them.

 

[otto105]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

Estate tax proposal from Bernie Sanders would mean big bills for America's wealthiest

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently introduced an estate tax plan that specifically lists the wealthiest Americans.

www.yahoo.com

currently about 50% of the population pay nothing in taxs and the uber rich pay the highest part of taxs,,

fix that problem and we can talk about you stupid idea,,

They will pay more.

 

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The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

Estate tax proposal from Bernie Sanders would mean big bills for America's wealthiest

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) recently introduced an estate tax plan that specifically lists the wealthiest Americans.

www.yahoo.com

I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.

Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.

the wealthy already pay not just more taxs but the majority of taxs,,

If the top 20% owns 99% of the wealth and income, I would think that they should also be paying 99% of the taxes. They don't. But yes, they do pay the majority of the taxes at the federal and state level. But when you total up all the other taxes, they really don't pay the majority. You leave out the taxes that are not figured in on an annual or quarterly basis.

because thats not what taxs are for in this country,, youre thinking of a socialist country,,

here taxs are for paying government bills not pet projects and supporting people that refuse to work or pay taxs,,

Oohhh, did I trigger your Socialist button again? The second you start raising "Socialism" means you are just blowing it out your ass.

so I'm right and you have no defense or response,,,

sorry to burst your bubble,,

how about you stick to the discussion and stop deflecting???

So you announce yourself as the winner and expect everyone else to aknowleged that you are just blowing smoke after you have been cornered. Hey go for it.