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Let me see....
You interfere in local politics, attack countries, assist others against the rest of the area, remove government and commit mass murder.
These things have no effect on how much the people you hurt hate America.
Drrrrrr - idiots.
No one attacked America until you started being daft bastards.
Yes, some moron will mention the Barbary pirates; that's the desperation they need resort to in order to justify America's stupid foreign policy.
please explain how our interventionist foreign policy (which we agree is wrong) caused radical islam to declare jihad on all non-believers.
Our Interventionist policies may not have caused radical islam to declare jihad on all non-believers but it has certainly brought more supporters to their cause.
Can you say anything else? At all? A "far left Obama drone" is anyone who says anything that you don't want to hear. It's called trolling. Knock it off. You're not clever or cute or informative.
It's just fucking stupid.
So, what stands between the fighting in Iraq and our front door?
That's all bullshit. America didn't go to war against anyone when a crazy white guy crashed a Cessna into the White House in 1996. This isn't about "extremists", "terrorists", or "freedom". This is about money. War makes money for certain people, and constant war constantly makes money for certain people. Those people want constant war.Islamic extremists believe that they are God's chosen, and their destiny is to rule the world and impose their religion on all. They have been fighting that war for centuries, and they will never give up that war until every one of them is dead. They are ignorant barbarians, and need to be treated as such.
Now, they are at war with the West, and will not cease that war as long as they are capable of continuing that war. We can stick our heads in the sand and pretend that the war does not exist, or we can fight them on our terms, and not theirs.
The attack on the World Trade Center was a wake-up call, and we engaged in that war. However, we got weary of fighting the war, and we unilaterally disengaged. That didn't end the war, it just gave our enemies the offensive, and now allow them to decide where, and when, the next battle will be fought.
It will be fought here, and hundreds, maybe thousands, of our people will pay the price for our utter disregard of reality.
I hope none of our RW posters fall into the trap of trying to be "moderate" in the mistaken belief it will make a bit of a difference when Jihadists hoist the final B&W flag over America and completing the establishment of their Global Caliphate.
Whether we had an interventionist foreign policy or not, we would have to convert, submit or die.
Well, until it actually becomes a war and not military action. The answer is to CONQUER the killer Islamist...not to beat them down and let them up because Liberals and sympathizers think they had enough. We need to beat them into submission. Raze their towns, rape their woman (of course the rapists will be prosecuted) and usurp ALL of their authority...God given or not. Fuck winning over their hearts and minds. We need to take their souls, deprive them of hope and destroy any will they have for violence and bloodshed.That's all bullshit. America didn't go to war against anyone when a crazy white guy crashed a Cessna into the White House in 1996. This isn't about "extremists", "terrorists", or "freedom". This is about money. War makes money for certain people, and constant war constantly makes money for certain people. Those people want constant war.Islamic extremists believe that they are God's chosen, and their destiny is to rule the world and impose their religion on all. They have been fighting that war for centuries, and they will never give up that war until every one of them is dead. They are ignorant barbarians, and need to be treated as such.
Now, they are at war with the West, and will not cease that war as long as they are capable of continuing that war. We can stick our heads in the sand and pretend that the war does not exist, or we can fight them on our terms, and not theirs.
The attack on the World Trade Center was a wake-up call, and we engaged in that war. However, we got weary of fighting the war, and we unilaterally disengaged. That didn't end the war, it just gave our enemies the offensive, and now allow them to decide where, and when, the next battle will be fought.
It will be fought here, and hundreds, maybe thousands, of our people will pay the price for our utter disregard of reality.
13 years into this war and yet Americans still cannot define "victory". Bin Laden's dead, Hussein is dead, al-Qaeda's number 2 and number 3 people have been killed several times. How does America ever know if it's won?
America began "fighting them on their terms" when Afghanistan was invaded. The invasion of Iraq and the toppling of Hussein gave them the offensive.
There will not be a military victory in this war. There was never intended to be.
So, what stands between the fighting in Iraq and our front door?
My shotgun, that's what.
Nutz, I'll assume that that was sarcasm. It has to be sarcasm because the majority of Arab Muslims are just like the majority of white Christians- they love their families and friends and they want to live a healthy peaceful life.
Also, the number of troops needed to subjugate and conquer the Middle East is well more than America can or is even willing to commit.
We made a massive effort to do exactly what your advocating in a small country called Vietnam.Nutz, I'll assume that that was sarcasm. It has to be sarcasm because the majority of Arab Muslims are just like the majority of white Christians- they love their families and friends and they want to live a healthy peaceful life.
Also, the number of troops needed to subjugate and conquer the Middle East is well more than America can or is even willing to commit.
No, not sarcasm at all. I am not speaking of genocide...I am speaking of WAR. I am speaking of destroying anything that stands in the way. If they don't want to get killed, they will get out of the way...that is the nature of WAR. As for the number of troops to subjugate the Middle East...totally possible. Once they are destroyed...the amount of manpower is decreased...but punishment for insurrection is swift and brutal.
We made a massive effort to do exactly what your advocating in a small country called Vietnam.Nutz, I'll assume that that was sarcasm. It has to be sarcasm because the majority of Arab Muslims are just like the majority of white Christians- they love their families and friends and they want to live a healthy peaceful life.
Also, the number of troops needed to subjugate and conquer the Middle East is well more than America can or is even willing to commit.
No, not sarcasm at all. I am not speaking of genocide...I am speaking of WAR. I am speaking of destroying anything that stands in the way. If they don't want to get killed, they will get out of the way...that is the nature of WAR. As for the number of troops to subjugate the Middle East...totally possible. Once they are destroyed...the amount of manpower is decreased...but punishment for insurrection is swift and brutal.
How well did that work out?? .....
As a participant it sure seemed like a war to me......but I guess armchair warriors like you know better. ..No, we didn't. Vietnam was a military action as well. It was not a war. Americans hands were tied as to what could and could not be done.
As a participant it sure seemed like a war to me......but I guess armchair warriors like you know better. ..No, we didn't. Vietnam was a military action as well. It was not a war. Americans hands were tied as to what could and could not be done.
Don't know and don't care.As a participant it sure seemed like a war to me......but I guess armchair warriors like you know better. ..No, we didn't. Vietnam was a military action as well. It was not a war. Americans hands were tied as to what could and could not be done.
Did the US ever declare War on Vietnam?
You all care so much about evil terrorist Muslims while there are over 10k firearm deaths in the US every year.
Muslims don't need to kill Americans. Americans are doing just fine on our own.
No, you lost this war when Afghanistan was invaded. Don't you understand this? America lost just like Russia lost, no matter how many soldiers you throw into Afghanistan.Nutz, I'll assume that that was sarcasm. It has to be sarcasm because the majority of Arab Muslims are just like the majority of white Christians- they love their families and friends and they want to live a healthy peaceful life.
Also, the number of troops needed to subjugate and conquer the Middle East is well more than America can or is even willing to commit.
No, not sarcasm at all. I am not speaking of genocide...I am speaking of WAR. I am speaking of destroying anything that stands in the way. If they don't want to get killed, they will get out of the way...that is the nature of WAR. As for the number of troops to subjugate the Middle East...totally possible. Once they are destroyed...the amount of manpower is decreased...but punishment for insurrection is swift and brutal.
So, what stands between the fighting in Iraq and our front door?
The fighting in distant Iraq is the exact same fight destined for America.
What do we expect will prevent that fight from being waged on the streets of America?
No, I'm saying that an American asshole with a gun (especially an American asshole who doesn't even know what the 2nd Amendment is actually for) poses more of a threat to American safety and freedom than any Muslim.You all care so much about evil terrorist Muslims while there are over 10k firearm deaths in the US every year.
Muslims don't need to kill Americans. Americans are doing just fine on our own.
So you are implying that American should turn in their weapons even though according to some people on this board we are about to be invaded by Jihadist!
