Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins

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SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbor

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and gives you some milk

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk

NAZISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and shoots you

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and then
throws the milk away

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy
grows.
You sell them and retire on the income​

 

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Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins​

Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins
In 1939, the same year the Germans and the Russians mutually consented to rape Poland, T.S. Eliot rather famously (or, I suppose for some, infamously) declared: “If you will not have God (and He is a jealous God), you should pay your respects to Hitler or Stalin.” Eliot, of course, could not have been more correct. In 1936, you had three choices: National Socialism, international socialism, or dignity... In 2018, we find ourselves in similar circumstances, even if they aren’t quite as clear cut as they were in 1936.... Of all the disturbing developments in culture and ideas over the last several years—including violence against legitimate authority, violence against the average citizen, and violence against the very ideas that undergird the West—few have been more disturbing than the reemergence of communism and socialism.... Why is this happening now, as much of Western civilization lingers in its twilight state? Most likely, it has to do with three critical things. First, we scholars have failed to convince the public of just how wicked all forms of communism were and remain. Most historians have focused their research and teaching on how “liberated” every form of eccentricity has become and how—in terms of race and gender—victims remain victims. Almost all historians ignore the most salient fact of the 20th century: that governments murdered more than 200 million innocents, the largest massacre in the history of the world. Terror reigned in the killing fields, the Holocaust camps, and the gulags.... Sadly, the age that advances progressively backwards has not halted. Indeed, over the last several years, it has advanced backwards rather quickly, suddenly, and, fearfully, without end.

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Both ideologies (Socialism and Fascism) are collectivist (Marxist). Both elevate group rights above those of the individual. Both dictate people’s behavior on the basis of those group rights. Both are revolutionary creeds which advocate the destruction of the old world and building it anew. Their respective adherents may have a heightened sensitivity to the things that set them apart from – or even in conflict with – one another, but in reality those differences are superficial. The similarities are fundamental.
There are many who wish to enslave others and extract their wealth and freedom for themselves by means of propaganda and compulsion. They walk within the hallowed halls of Congress, on the streets in our fair cities, and our Universities, etc. Many would delight in subjugating others to their will. They must be fought, attacked relentlessly with superior ideas, defeated and conclusively demoralized. That is how we must preserve our freedom and liberty. It's a perpetual war.

Communism = Marxism = Fascism = Nazism = Islam = Democrats and Cows
Socialism, communism, fascism, nazism...and cows - Galt's Gulch​

Little historical awareness yet again. Don't you guys ever tire of this particular strawman? For your reference. The Nazi's considered the Communists their class enemy. Hence the clashes between them in the 20th's,30th's and outright war in 1941. The reason for it and the war wasn't because of the second word of the name of the party, socialist. But rather the first one, being nationalists. Ironically enough, it is these nationalistic tendencies that are now so obviously being touted again as a solution to the worlds problems.

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Equally disturbing is that most younger defenders of communism buy into the oldest propaganda line of the Left—that real communism has never been tried and fascism is the polar opposite of communism. That the Nazis were actually “National Socialists,” these apologists argue, was merely a cynical ploy on the part of Hitler to gain the support of the working and middle classes of Germany. The term “socialism” meant nothing to Hitler. He was really a supporter of controlled corporate capitalism, not of the beautiful and compelling idea of socialism. Many of these young communism supporters go so far as to argue that those who label the Nazis “National Socialists” are either ignorant or willfully smearing a good word. While these new supporters have yet to proclaim those who call Nazis socialists as racists, they are coming close. A quick look at the social media response to a British conservative’s recent claim that National Socialism was—surprise!—socialist should be proof enough that communism is hardly dead and gone.
Our Ignorance of Socialism Is Dangerous

Since Krupp, Borsig, Thyssen and a bunch of others were committed Nazi's not to mention some of the richest people in Germany and about as far removed from Communist or even socialists as one can imagine. Claiming that exporting Socialism wasn't what drove the Nazi's is a hell of a lot more reasonable then trying to equate Nazism to Communism, let alone Democrats.

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Really? I guess then we can't say the same for people like the Clinton's, Obama, Buffet, Bloomberg, Bezos, Carey, De Niro, Dimon and the Hollywood crowd just to mention a few. In Russia they're called Oligarchs. Do you really believe it's all about ideology in their cases? There you go again....

I'm not trying to make the case that they are all the same, you are. As for the rest, I can add, the brothers Koch, Murdoch and countless others who are Republicans. I don't try to equate Capitalism to Nazism. You are trying to tie Democrats to Nazi's and Communists . Tell me why having an intellectual honest argument is so hard for you?

 

[sparky]

ENRON VENTURE CAPITALISM

You have two cows.

You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows.

The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.

The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.
You sell one cow to buy a new president of the United States, leaving you with nine cows.

No balance sheet provided with the release.

The public then buys your bull.

 

[Preacher]

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SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbor

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and gives you some milk

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk

NAZISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and shoots you

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and then
throws the milk away

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy
grows.
You sell them and retire on the income​

Bullshit from the typical COHENservative crowd. National Socialism is where you make sure ALL your neighbors and yourself are taken care of because that's what a society should do not look out for just themselves.

 

[JLW]

Stick to medicine Doc, you have no aptitude for politics.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Little historical awareness yet again. Don't you guys ever tire of this particular strawman? For your reference. The Nazi's considered the Communists their class enemy. Hence the clashes between them in the 20th's,30th's and outright war in 1941. The reason for it and the war wasn't because of the second word of the name of the party, socialist. But rather the first one, being nationalists. Ironically enough, it is these nationalistic tendencies that are now so obviously being touted again as a solution to the worlds problems.

Socialists hate competition.

Hmm, and yet Mega-Capitalism starts to have Monopolies which drive down competition, and create junky products, you know kind of like Communism.

 

[Pete7469]

Fudge packing cousins that is.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins​

Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins
In 1939, the same year the Germans and the Russians mutually consented to rape Poland, T.S. Eliot rather famously (or, I suppose for some, infamously) declared: “If you will not have God (and He is a jealous God), you should pay your respects to Hitler or Stalin.” Eliot, of course, could not have been more correct. In 1936, you had three choices: National Socialism, international socialism, or dignity... In 2018, we find ourselves in similar circumstances, even if they aren’t quite as clear cut as they were in 1936.... Of all the disturbing developments in culture and ideas over the last several years—including violence against legitimate authority, violence against the average citizen, and violence against the very ideas that undergird the West—few have been more disturbing than the reemergence of communism and socialism.... Why is this happening now, as much of Western civilization lingers in its twilight state? Most likely, it has to do with three critical things. First, we scholars have failed to convince the public of just how wicked all forms of communism were and remain. Most historians have focused their research and teaching on how “liberated” every form of eccentricity has become and how—in terms of race and gender—victims remain victims. Almost all historians ignore the most salient fact of the 20th century: that governments murdered more than 200 million innocents, the largest massacre in the history of the world. Terror reigned in the killing fields, the Holocaust camps, and the gulags.... Sadly, the age that advances progressively backwards has not halted. Indeed, over the last several years, it has advanced backwards rather quickly, suddenly, and, fearfully, without end.

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Both ideologies (Socialism and Fascism) are collectivist (Marxist). Both elevate group rights above those of the individual. Both dictate people’s behavior on the basis of those group rights. Both are revolutionary creeds which advocate the destruction of the old world and building it anew. Their respective adherents may have a heightened sensitivity to the things that set them apart from – or even in conflict with – one another, but in reality those differences are superficial. The similarities are fundamental.
There are many who wish to enslave others and extract their wealth and freedom for themselves by means of propaganda and compulsion. They walk within the hallowed halls of Congress, on the streets in our fair cities, and our Universities, etc. Many would delight in subjugating others to their will. They must be fought, attacked relentlessly with superior ideas, defeated and conclusively demoralized. That is how we must preserve our freedom and liberty. It's a perpetual war.

Communism = Marxism = Fascism = Nazism = Islam = Democrats and Cows
Socialism, communism, fascism, nazism...and cows - Galt's Gulch​

Little historical awareness yet again. Don't you guys ever tire of this particular strawman? For your reference. The Nazi's considered the Communists their class enemy. Hence the clashes between them in the 20th's,30th's and outright war in 1941. The reason for it and the war wasn't because of the second word of the name of the party, socialist. But rather the first one, being nationalists. Ironically enough, it is these nationalistic tendencies that are now so obviously being touted again as a solution to the worlds problems.

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Equally disturbing is that most younger defenders of communism buy into the oldest propaganda line of the Left—that real communism has never been tried and fascism is the polar opposite of communism. That the Nazis were actually “National Socialists,” these apologists argue, was merely a cynical ploy on the part of Hitler to gain the support of the working and middle classes of Germany. The term “socialism” meant nothing to Hitler. He was really a supporter of controlled corporate capitalism, not of the beautiful and compelling idea of socialism. Many of these young communism supporters go so far as to argue that those who label the Nazis “National Socialists” are either ignorant or willfully smearing a good word. While these new supporters have yet to proclaim those who call Nazis socialists as racists, they are coming close. A quick look at the social media response to a British conservative’s recent claim that National Socialism was—surprise!—socialist should be proof enough that communism is hardly dead and gone.
Our Ignorance of Socialism Is Dangerous

Anarchy is the polar opposite of Communism, which makes Anarcho-Communists the biggest morons known to man.

Fascism is really a hybrid between Capitalism & Communism, just more Socially Conservative.

 

[Oddball]

Hmm, and yet Mega-Capitalism starts to have Monopolies which drive down competition, and create junky products, you know kind of like Communism.

Crony corporatism isn't laissez-faire.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

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SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbor

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and gives you some milk

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk

NAZISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and shoots you

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and then
throws the milk away

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy
grows.
You sell them and retire on the income​

Bullshit from the typical COHENservative crowd. National Socialism is where you make sure ALL your neighbors and yourself are taken care of because that's what a society should do not look out for just themselves.

National Socialism is anti-Communism & also anti-Capitalism, you're way too Capitalistic to be a true NS.

 

[Oddball]

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SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbor

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and gives you some milk

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk

NAZISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and shoots you

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and then
throws the milk away

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy
grows.
You sell them and retire on the income​

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Hmm, and yet Mega-Capitalism starts to have Monopolies which drive down competition, and create junky products, you know kind of like Communism.

Crony corporatism isn't laissez-faire.

How do you figure that?

Just like you claimed all the Liberal Capitalists profiting off of anti-Patriotism, and social-Liberalism, were somehow not Capitalists?

That ones puzzling, at best.

Capitalism is Liberalism, in a nutshell.

Capitalism seeks to hire millions of Illegals, outsource millions of jobs, for cheap labor, Abortion, Porn, Gangster rap, Selling pot, Selling Gay wedding merchandise, selling Hollywood degenerate, raunchy, or shoot 'em up films with Liberal agenda,censoring out the Internet like Facebook, Twitter & Facebook, or how about Google, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS Liberalism pushed via media?

It's all Capitalism & Liberalism.

Fascists got things spot on, in order to promote Nationalism & Social Conservatism, you must have a well managed economy.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

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SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbor

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and gives you some milk

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk

NAZISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and shoots you

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and then
throws the milk away

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy
grows.
You sell them and retire on the income​

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Pinochet was a Capitalist dictator, he modeled his system off of the Chicago Boys of Economics, which Milton Friedman belong to, BTW.

 

[Oddball]

How do you figure that?

Just like you claimed all the Liberal Capitalists profiting off of anti-Patriotism, and social-Liberalism, were somehow not Capitalists?

That ones puzzling, at best.

Capitalism is Liberalism, in a nutshell.

Capitalism seeks to hire millions of Illegals, outsource millions of jobs, for cheap labor, Abortion, Porn, Gangster rap, Selling pot, Selling Gay wedding merchandise, selling Hollywood degenerate, raunchy, or shoot 'em up films with Liberal agenda,censoring out the Internet like Facebook, Twitter & Facebook, or how about Google, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS Liberalism pushed via media?

It's all Capitalism & Liberalism.

Fascists got things spot on, in order to promote Nationalism & Social Conservatism, you must have a well managed economy.

Once again, you're reciting the trappings and actions of crony corporatists, not laissez-faire capitalists.

 

[Oddball]

Pinochet was a Capitalist dictator, he modeled his system off of the Chicago Boys of Economics, which Milton Friedman belong to, BTW.

You think I don't already know that?

 

[Pete7469]

Crony corporatism isn't laissez-faire.

Pollacks don't know what that means.

Besides, no one on the right is advocating laissez-faire, just an actual free market where the donor class doesn't get whatever regulation they want, in order to be able to manipulate the market.

Perhaps feudalism soaked into some euroweenie DNA and they feel compelled to serve someone, any sort of government as a serf. If they have to elect a master they will.


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[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Our Ignorance of Socialism Is Dangerous

Our Ignorance of Socialism Is Dangerous
A recent Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation survey found that 51 percent of American millennials would rather live in a socialist or communist country than in a capitalist country. Only 42 percent prefer the latter.... The number of people who died at the hands of Josef Stalin may be as high as 62 million. However, almost one-third of millennials think former President George W. Bush is responsible for more killings than Stalin.... Nazis come in as a poor third in terms of history’s most prolific mass murderers. According to professor Rudolph Rummel’s research, the 20th century, mankind’s most brutal century, saw 262 million people’s lives destroyed at the hands of their own governments.... America’s communists, socialists, and Marxists have little knowledge of socialist history. Bradley Birzer, a professor of history at Hillsdale College, explains this in an article for The American Conservative titled “Socialists and Fascists Have Always Been Kissing Cousins.” …. Are Americans who admire the world’s most brutal regimes miseducated or stupid? Or do they have some kind of devious agenda?



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Whatever room Walter E. Williams walks into, he is almost always the smartest person in it. Along with Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele, and Condi Rice, there are few other modern-day 'deep thinkers' who can approach his knowledge and understanding of history.
Sadly our Progressive Marxist Socialist Liberal "friends" are products of the Deep State Politically Correct Socialist indoctrination camps that masquerade as public schools which are mandated to inculcate our youth instead of instructing them on what they need to know to be productive and responsible citizens.
According to the Deep State all we need to know is contained within those walls where they inculcate (brainwash) those who are most impressionable, the ages of five through eighteen, in what the Deep State Globalist government wants them to know. These perfect little automatons are devoid of all essential knowledge and awareness and ready to do the Deep State Globalists’ bidding.
The American (re)education system is teaching our children Socialism; the soft, rosy and wishful thinking side. They are indoctrinated into thinking that because of the fact this is America, Socialism will work. See the paradox ?. "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." George Orwell

More people probably died by Capitalist famines, rather than Communism famines.

The British Empire had over 22 major famines in India, caused by Capitalist & Proto-Capitalist policies of the British Raj India.

As a result 60 million perished in famine.

Now-a-days, Yemen is now another American (British ethnic) famine, the biggest one in many, many decades.

One thing is for sure, Fascism killed far less than Communism, or Capitalism.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Crony corporatism isn't laissez-faire.

Pollacks don't know what that means.

Besides, no one on the right is advocating laissez-faire, just an actual free market where the donor class doesn't get whatever regulation they want, in order to be able to manipulate the market.

Perhaps feudalism soaked into some euroweenie DNA and they feel compelled to serve someone, any sort of government as a serf. If they have to elect a master they will.


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Uh, unrestrained Capitalism does lead to Monopolies.

What ever happened to Republicans like Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting Monopolies?

Americans have become frightfully more & more retarded each passing generation.

 

[Oddball]

More people probably died by Capitalist famines, rather than Communism famines.

The British Empire had over 22 major famines in India, caused by Capitalist & Proto-Capitalist policies of the British Raj India.

As a result 60 million perished in famine.

Now-a-days, Yemen is now another American (British ethnic) famine, the biggest one in many, many decades.

One thing is for sure, Fascism killed far less than Communism, or Capitalism.

Oh, fuck my life.

Colonialist cronyism and legalized looting isn't laissez-faire capitalism either....Just STFU and quit embarrassing yourself.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

More people probably died by Capitalist famines, rather than Communism famines.

The British Empire had over 22 major famines in India, caused by Capitalist & Proto-Capitalist policies of the British Raj India.

As a result 60 million perished in famine.

Now-a-days, Yemen is now another American (British ethnic) famine, the biggest one in many, many decades.

One thing is for sure, Fascism killed far less than Communism, or Capitalism.

Oh, fuck my life.

Colonialist cronyism and legalized looting isn't laissez-faire capitalism either....Just STFU and quit embarrassing yourself.

British Capitalists are the crown champions of Brutality, they killed on every continent, and continue such a legacy with the American empire.

Germans & Russians can't touch that, that kind of genocide & brutality that is.