Solar panels on water canals seem like a no-brainer. So why aren't they widespread?

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Cover the canals and reduce evaporation--to the tune of...63B Gal.? Generate 13 gigawatts??
Early days..and might be a myth...but I'm glad they're doing a 'Proof of concept' project~


A study by the University of California, Merced gives a boost to the idea, estimating that 63 billion gallons of water could be saved by covering California’s 4,000 miles of canals with solar panels that could also generate 13 gigawatts of power. That’s enough for the entire city of Los Angeles from January through early October.

But that’s an estimate — neither it, nor other potential benefits have been tested scientifically. That’s about to change with Project Nexus in California’s Central Valley.
Around the same time, the Turlock Irrigation District, an entity that also provides power, reached out to UC Merced. It was looking to build a solar project to comply with the state’s increased goal of 100% renewable energy by 2045. But land was very expensive. So building atop existing infrastructure was appealing. Then there was the prospect that shade from panels might reduce weeds growing in the canals — a problem that costs this utility $1 million annually.
“Until this UC Merced paper came out, we never really saw what those co-benefits would be,” said Josh Weimer, external affairs manager for the district. “If somebody was going to pilot this concept, we wanted to make sure it was us.”
Then the state committed $20 million in public funds, turning the pilot into a three-party collaboration among the private, public and academic sectors. About 1.6 miles (2.6 kilometers) of canals between 20 and 110 feet wide will be covered with solar panels between five and 15 feet off the ground.
The UC Merced team will study impacts ranging from evaporation to water quality, said Brandi McKuin, lead researcher on the study.
“We need to get to the heart of those questions before we make any recommendations about how to do this more widely,” she said.


 
Cover the canals and reduce evaporation--to the tune of...63B Gal.? Generate 13 gigawatts??
Early days..and might be a myth...but I'm glad they're doing a 'Proof of concept' project~


A study by the University of California, Merced gives a boost to the idea, estimating that 63 billion gallons of water could be saved by covering California’s 4,000 miles of canals with solar panels that could also generate 13 gigawatts of power. That’s enough for the entire city of Los Angeles from January through early October.
But that’s an estimate — neither it, nor other potential benefits have been tested scientifically. That’s about to change with Project Nexus in California’s Central Valley.
Around the same time, the Turlock Irrigation District, an entity that also provides power, reached out to UC Merced. It was looking to build a solar project to comply with the state’s increased goal of 100% renewable energy by 2045. But land was very expensive. So building atop existing infrastructure was appealing. Then there was the prospect that shade from panels might reduce weeds growing in the canals — a problem that costs this utility $1 million annually.
“Until this UC Merced paper came out, we never really saw what those co-benefits would be,” said Josh Weimer, external affairs manager for the district. “If somebody was going to pilot this concept, we wanted to make sure it was us.”
Then the state committed $20 million in public funds, turning the pilot into a three-party collaboration among the private, public and academic sectors. About 1.6 miles (2.6 kilometers) of canals between 20 and 110 feet wide will be covered with solar panels between five and 15 feet off the ground.
The UC Merced team will study impacts ranging from evaporation to water quality, said Brandi McKuin, lead researcher on the study.
“We need to get to the heart of those questions before we make any recommendations about how to do this more widely,” she said.
What about Alaska? Would those solar panels work during winter?
 
This isn't China... we don't have slave labor... yet anyway... so just to clean these panels would cost millions of dollars a month... let alone the cost to put them in and maintain them when the cells die off... solar panels do not last forever... we are going to destroy the planet by trying to eliminate fossil fuels... did you see what that new ship to erect windmills at sea cost the taxpayers?... $500 million dollars... for one ship....
 
This isn't China... we don't have slave labor... yet anyway... so just to clean these panels would cost millions of dollars a month... let alone the cost to put them in and maintain them when the cells die off... solar panels do not last forever... we are going to destroy the planet by trying to eliminate fossil fuels... did you see what that new ship to erect windmills at sea cost the taxpayers?... $500 million dollars... for one ship....
Not really seeing this as trying to eliminate fossil fuels..which is absurd anyway. Yes, everything requires maint.--and nothing is forever..thanks for the tip.
This is about maximizing our resources..with the added water saving benefits.
 
Not really seeing this as trying to eliminate fossil fuels..which is absurd anyway. Yes, everything requires maint.--and nothing is forever..thanks for the tip.
This is about maximizing our resources..with the added water saving benefits.
I wasn't referring to you personally but there is a political party that is hell bent on eliminating fossil fuels even at the expense of the environment and our economy... the only thing that could make folks so determined is money....
 
Cover the canals and reduce evaporation--to the tune of...63B Gal.? Generate 13 gigawatts??
Early days..and might be a myth...but I'm glad they're doing a 'Proof of concept' project~


A study by the University of California, Merced gives a boost to the idea, estimating that 63 billion gallons of water could be saved by covering California’s 4,000 miles of canals with solar panels that could also generate 13 gigawatts of power. That’s enough for the entire city of Los Angeles from January through early October.
But that’s an estimate — neither it, nor other potential benefits have been tested scientifically. That’s about to change with Project Nexus in California’s Central Valley.
Around the same time, the Turlock Irrigation District, an entity that also provides power, reached out to UC Merced. It was looking to build a solar project to comply with the state’s increased goal of 100% renewable energy by 2045. But land was very expensive. So building atop existing infrastructure was appealing. Then there was the prospect that shade from panels might reduce weeds growing in the canals — a problem that costs this utility $1 million annually.
“Until this UC Merced paper came out, we never really saw what those co-benefits would be,” said Josh Weimer, external affairs manager for the district. “If somebody was going to pilot this concept, we wanted to make sure it was us.”
Then the state committed $20 million in public funds, turning the pilot into a three-party collaboration among the private, public and academic sectors. About 1.6 miles (2.6 kilometers) of canals between 20 and 110 feet wide will be covered with solar panels between five and 15 feet off the ground.
The UC Merced team will study impacts ranging from evaporation to water quality, said Brandi McKuin, lead researcher on the study.
“We need to get to the heart of those questions before we make any recommendations about how to do this more widely,” she said.

Do ducks in California not need a place to land and cool off when they are fleeing forest fires?
 
Cover the canals and reduce evaporation--to the tune of...63B Gal.? Generate 13 gigawatts??
Early days..and might be a myth...but I'm glad they're doing a 'Proof of concept' project~


A study by the University of California, Merced gives a boost to the idea, estimating that 63 billion gallons of water could be saved by covering California’s 4,000 miles of canals with solar panels that could also generate 13 gigawatts of power. That’s enough for the entire city of Los Angeles from January through early October.
But that’s an estimate — neither it, nor other potential benefits have been tested scientifically. That’s about to change with Project Nexus in California’s Central Valley.
Around the same time, the Turlock Irrigation District, an entity that also provides power, reached out to UC Merced. It was looking to build a solar project to comply with the state’s increased goal of 100% renewable energy by 2045. But land was very expensive. So building atop existing infrastructure was appealing. Then there was the prospect that shade from panels might reduce weeds growing in the canals — a problem that costs this utility $1 million annually.
“Until this UC Merced paper came out, we never really saw what those co-benefits would be,” said Josh Weimer, external affairs manager for the district. “If somebody was going to pilot this concept, we wanted to make sure it was us.”
Then the state committed $20 million in public funds, turning the pilot into a three-party collaboration among the private, public and academic sectors. About 1.6 miles (2.6 kilometers) of canals between 20 and 110 feet wide will be covered with solar panels between five and 15 feet off the ground.
The UC Merced team will study impacts ranging from evaporation to water quality, said Brandi McKuin, lead researcher on the study.
“We need to get to the heart of those questions before we make any recommendations about how to do this more widely,” she said.
Where will the homeless bathe?
 
Do ducks in California not need a place to land and cool off when they are fleeing forest fires?
Ducks don't do canals as a rule--especially in that area of the central valley. They prefer the many rivers, lakes and reservoirs, and game refuges that have been made in their flight paths. There is some merit to this idea--but some possible undiscovered draw backs as well.
 
This isn't China... we don't have slave labor... yet anyway... so just to clean these panels would cost millions of dollars a month... let alone the cost to put them in and maintain them when the cells die off... solar panels do not last forever... we are going to destroy the planet by trying to eliminate fossil fuels... did you see what that new ship to erect windmills at sea cost the taxpayers?... $500 million dollars... for one ship....
I see a potential for ground faults though. There will be evap/condensation on the underside of the panels in the spring, summer and fall and water collection from above during the winter rains. They also have to have access to the canal for maintenance at the weirs. The weirs are necessary as these canals are gravity flow.
 
How long has it been since you've been to Modesto/Turlock? Those places are over run with homeless. Did you not read about the homeless girl who was killed when a tractor mower ran over her in Beardbrook park in Modesto?
Mulching ***ouch***

As I think you know...canals kill. Hell, capping them might even save a life or two.
In any event, this is a pilot project...to find out if it will meet Real World situations and needs.
 
As I think you know...canals kill.
I swam in them through my younger years. But, you make a valid point. They have put many of them under ground, but that is another very expensive fix and pipelines don't come without maintenance costs either. Also the ground above the pipeline could be put to other uses. The intent of the OP was to utilize unused space above the canals was it not?
 
Not really seeing this as trying to eliminate fossil fuels..which is absurd anyway.
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Dunno..doubt it...as a viable thing--peak sunlight is a just few months..and cold kills.
This seems to be more of a temperate thing. Have to love multi-purposing--this could be one of those rare win/wins~
Did you know out in Californication, near NAS Lamoore, there is a very large solar farm with probably 1/2 million solar arrays. When i got there in August, the panels were covered in a 2 in thick dust. I asked when do the panels get cleaned? When it rains was the response. I asked when it rains, and was said, February. So one month out the year, the panles produce electricity, when it isnt raining, the other 10 months out of the year, hardly any electricity is generated. But the guy who sold the sucker the solar array, sure made out like a Marxist/Bandit as that is how Marxists always do business... Sell a shit product then leave town so nothing can be done to them.
 
Not really seeing this as trying to eliminate fossil fuels..which is absurd anyway. Yes, everything requires maint.--and nothing is forever..thanks for the tip.
This is about maximizing our resources..with the added water saving benefits.
Of course if we put Nuclear Desalination Plants all around the country, all the sea water coming in converted to fresh could be pumped inland. Also from the generation of electricity, we could split some of the water molecules into hydrogen, and condense it down for hydrogen fuel cells. But alas, Marxists cant have happy people, so they keep all the real technology from being created...
 

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