Subs switching to 24 hour day

[Zander]

Spent almost 4 years on SSN-701 USS LaJolla - Sub Group 5 Point Loma.....

.....gonna be a lot of hot racking!!!

 

[WinterBorn]

not sure what you are talking about.

when I was in, the only surface ship a sub sailor could be on was a sub tender (repair/supply ship)

and east coast subs were only in Groton and Norfolk

Not sure when you were in. Charleston was a submarine base when I was in the Navy, and that was in the early 80s. Kings Bay GA was our refit port.

And I transfered from a submarine to a supply ship. As long as your rating was needed, we could go anywhere. I do remember thinking the surface fleet shipboard training was a cake walk after having earned my dolphins.

late 80's. subs or tenders were the only choice.

and yea, skimmer training was comical compared to earning your dolphins.

2nd shipmate to congratulate me put the pins through the back

As for teh surface training, the first training class I went to on the surface ship was on the OBA (Oxygen Breathing Apparatus). I was an E3 (busted for pot with a year left in). So they ask for volunteers to "Try to us the OBA". Hell, it was up there on a table in a well lit room. I was confused. So I raised my hand and was going to ask where they wanted me to put it on. The guy doing the class called me up with a smirk, thinking I wouldn't be able to do it. I walked up put it on perfectly. He looked shocked until I told him I was trained to do it in a dark closet or locker with one of the straps misadjusted or something screwed up on it.

 

[Unkotare]

Not to derail the thread, but since there seem to be a number of folks here in the know about such things (and since I'm an ignorant career civilian - thank you very sincerely all who served, by the way), did they ever recover that Russian submarine that went down 5 or so years ago and never surfaced? I recall they were in touch with the crew for some days before it became academic. I don't think I ever heard if they raised the sub after all was said and done.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Really? I was on the USS James Madison, SSBN 627. And the food was great all the time. We had a baker who could make these yeast rolls from HEAVEN!

Yeah, the 18 hr day took some adjustment. But you got used to it pretty quick. Besides, being on a "Boomer" meant I basically had 30 days off every 6 months.

boomers are different, you have way more space. When a fast attack deployed, we put #10 cans in all the passage ways and layed boards on top. and we never knew when we were coming into port. A gen idea, but anything could make a change


and being you're a boomer fag, that why I didn't know about Charleston

Yeah, keep trying to sound funny about the Boomers. But the fact is that my boat had more fire power on it than the sum total of all the fast attack boats in the Navy.

Oh, and try and find us? LMAO!! We could hear y'all coming a mile away. You couldn't find us if we were right under you. Ask the CO of the USS America (in 1981). We were doing standard ops in the Atlantic and the carrier group came up over us. Our CO had us come to periscope depth in the America's wake, snap a picture, and dive deep & silent. They never knew we were there. Our old man sent the pic to the America's CO with the word "Gotcha" written on it.

The funniest part? They were running submarine search ops at the time.

during war games they had to put a mini pinger on us just to make it fair

We had the commander of Desron 4 on board for a couple of days. He was not happy when our CO asked him; Is that our Flag ship Admire?

but hey, deep, deep, way deep down, I got nothing but respect for boomer fags, I just can't help myself.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Not to derail the thread, but since there seem to be a number of folks here in the know about such things (and since I'm an ignorant career civilian - thank you very sincerely all who served, by the way), did they ever recover that Russian submarine that went down 5 or so years ago and never surfaced? I recall they were in touch with the crew for some days before it became academic. I don't think I ever heard if they raised the sub after all was said and done.

last I heard out help was declined.

Thing is, the russians do absolutely batshit crazy things with their boats. Their reactors are unsafe, but some of them can do 40 knots (48 mph). That might not seem like a lot, but when your torpedoes can go just a little bit faster...

The russians lost many more subs than you know about, they were constantly trying new things and some of them ended in the loss of boat and crew.

 

[Zander]

Boomers had it easy. Didn't they have exercise bikes and weight rooms?

Fast attack. Silent death.

 

[Zander]

There are no days under water. It must be similar to working on the space station. I hope the new regulations give Sub skippers more freedom to regulate work schedules and it isn't some psycho-babble that fat assed arm chair skippers invented.

could be.

on my boat we went from 'rig for red' to 'rig for blue' to 'rig for grey' in about a 4 month time frame.

wonder how meals changed? used to get chow 4 times a day. breakfast, lunch, dinner and mid rats. If we were good boys and ate all the dinner food we got the best ravioli ever. Honest, most of the food sucked, but the midrats ravioli was awesome

I look back and I realize when underway - we ate practically non-stop. Everything was garbage!! Except.....we had a soft serve ice cream machine......we hit an IMA fast when that motherfucker broke!!

 

[WinterBorn]

Boomers had it easy. Didn't they have exercise bikes and weight rooms?

Fast attack. Silent death.

No, not on the class boat I rode they didn't. We didn't have to hot bunk, but there was not much extra space.

It was easy in some ways. But it was also tedious and boring going out and going in big slow circles for 60 to 90 days.

My boat had an XO commit suicide halfway thru a patrol (before I got onboard). His body was in the reefer for the rest of the patrol. Nothing communicated out until we headed in.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Boomers had it easy. Didn't they have exercise bikes and weight rooms?

Fast attack. Silent death.

b/c of our name and location near DC, every douchebag pol or diplomat or just some ass that thought he was important, came and toured our boat.

best part about it though, if you were white of slightly over weight, you were relieved from watch while the tour was on.

 

[Smilebong]

Navy OKs changes for submariners' sleep schedules


I know what you're thinking, there's 24 hours in a day.

You Are Wrong You civvie Scum!

There's 18 hours in a Submarine day!



And if you think that sucks? Well we can make it worse!!



No really, thank god for this effort. I know there's not enough people on board to keep it up for everyone, having stood port and starboard and a port and report once. but it will definatly improve some moral.

I read the article. It sounds like a good idea. I have never been underwater on one of those things, but I am glad that some of my friends have made it their career. I sit near Retired Vice Admiral John Mateczun, and I am going to ask him his opinion on this.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Navy OKs changes for submariners' sleep schedules


I know what you're thinking, there's 24 hours in a day.

You Are Wrong You civvie Scum!

There's 18 hours in a Submarine day!



And if you think that sucks? Well we can make it worse!!



No really, thank god for this effort. I know there's not enough people on board to keep it up for everyone, having stood port and starboard and a port and report once. but it will definatly improve some moral.

I read the article. It sounds like a good idea. I have never been underwater on one of those things, but I am glad that some of my friends have made it their career. I sit near Retired Vice Admiral John Mateczun, and I am going to ask him his opinion on this.

thanks, let me know what he has to say.

 

[Smilebong]

Navy OKs changes for submariners' sleep schedules


I know what you're thinking, there's 24 hours in a day.

You Are Wrong You civvie Scum!

There's 18 hours in a Submarine day!



And if you think that sucks? Well we can make it worse!!



No really, thank god for this effort. I know there's not enough people on board to keep it up for everyone, having stood port and starboard and a port and report once. but it will definatly improve some moral.

I read the article. It sounds like a good idea. I have never been underwater on one of those things, but I am glad that some of my friends have made it their career. I sit near Retired Vice Admiral John Mateczun, and I am going to ask him his opinion on this.

thanks, let me know what he has to say.

I will. He is in our office about 2 days a week.

 

[Politico]

Heard the argument back when subs and sweeps were stationed in Charleston. I never heard of a chief who had punched out the CO as a 1st in hopes of getting duty on sweeps instead of subs. My division chief had done the exact opposite on Fidelity MSO-443. I observed an annualized 8% disability rate before I found a guy on another ship that was being decommissioned to get off that duty. It only worked, if memory serves, because the guy's wife was from Charleston and he had only a little over the minimum time on his hitch for a transfer rather than a early discharge. He wanted to be less than the minimum time left end when Fido was decommissioned.

not sure what you are talking about.

when I was in, the only surface ship a sub sailor could be on was a sub tender (repair/supply ship)

and east coast subs were only in Groton and Norfolk

That's not true. The Pennsylvania was in KB until 2002.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Heard the argument back when subs and sweeps were stationed in Charleston. I never heard of a chief who had punched out the CO as a 1st in hopes of getting duty on sweeps instead of subs. My division chief had done the exact opposite on Fidelity MSO-443. I observed an annualized 8% disability rate before I found a guy on another ship that was being decommissioned to get off that duty. It only worked, if memory serves, because the guy's wife was from Charleston and he had only a little over the minimum time on his hitch for a transfer rather than a early discharge. He wanted to be less than the minimum time left end when Fido was decommissioned.

not sure what you are talking about.

when I was in, the only surface ship a sub sailor could be on was a sub tender (repair/supply ship)

and east coast subs were only in Groton and Norfolk

That's not true. The Pennsylvania was in KB until 2002.

thanks, I should have been more specific.

Fast attacks were only in Groton and Norfolk