Syria, Europe, Russia, the U.S. and a billion dollar pipeline...

[Missourian]

Not sure if this is true, but it sure does make a lot of disjointed pieces make a lot more sense if it is...from Obama's red line to pull us into the Syrian conflict, through the hacking, right down to a Turkish Officer gunning down the Russian Ambassador and sanctions directly after the fall of Aleppo and the Syrian Ceasefire. Once again we're sticking our nose where it doesn't belong...

THE Syrian war often seems like a big confusing mess but one factor that is not often mentioned could be the key to unlocking the conflict.

Some experts have pointed out that many of the key players have one thing in common: a billion-dollar natural gas pipeline.

Factor in this detail and suddenly the war begins to make more sense...

IT’S THE GAS, STUPID

Many have questioned why Russia became involved in the Syrian war but often overlook the fight over natural gas.

As Harvard Professor Mitchell A Orenstein and George Romer wrote last month inForeign Affairs, Russia currently supplies Europe with a quarter of the gas it uses for heating, cooking, fuel and other activities.

In fact 80 per cent of the gas that Russian state-controlled company Gazprom produces is sold to Europe, so maintaining this crucial market is very important.

But Europe doesn’t like being so reliant on Russia for fuel and has been trying to reduce its dependence. It’s a move that is supported by the United States as it would weaken Russian influence over Europe.

Read the whole article and it will all come into focus...

The one thing we’ve all missed in Syrian conflict





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[baileyn45]

Not to sound like a smart ass but I thought this was common knowledge. It pretty much explains Hillary's ties with the Saudis. Of course there are many other layers but this is undoubtedly why the US is so anti-Assad.

 

[Missourian]

Not to sound like a smart ass but I thought this was common knowledge. It pretty much explains Hillary's ties with the Saudis. Of course there are many other layers but this is undoubtedly why the US is so anti-Assad.

Could very well be common knowledge and I just missed it somehow. Believe me when I tell you I was jaw droppingly shocked when I stumbled upon it this evening.

 

[Missourian]

Not to sound like a smart ass but I thought this was common knowledge. It pretty much explains Hillary's ties with the Saudis. Of course there are many other layers but this is undoubtedly why the US is so anti-Assad.

When I Google "Syria Pipeline" I get a lot of generic website hits on this proposed pipeline and it's link to the Syrian War, but not a single mainstream news source...not even when I go to the "News" tab. It looks like ZeroHedge covered it, and Ecowatch, and this Australian News Site that I linked to, but nothing larger than that.

 

[baileyn45]

Not to sound like a smart ass but I thought this was common knowledge. It pretty much explains Hillary's ties with the Saudis. Of course there are many other layers but this is undoubtedly why the US is so anti-Assad.

When I Google "Syria Pipeline" I get a lot of generic website hits on this proposed pipeline and it's link to the Syrian War, but not a single mainstream news source...not even when I go to the "News" tab. It looks like ZeroHedge covered it, and Ecowatch, and this Australian News Site that I linked to, but nothing larger than that.

I forget where I heard people discussing it but I heard it before the whole mess in Syria really got going. I wish I had taken note of the source but I do recall one guy calling this mess before hand. His point was that the US and Europe were going to go after the Assad regime because of their ties to the Russians and the desire to have a future gas pipeline controlled by the gulf states and not the Syrians/Russians/Iranians. Just another proxy war.

The strange thing is I now have friends and family members that think I'm an expert on the whole mess even though I keep saying I just heard a guy talking about it before the war even started. Who ever he was he nailed it, called the whole mess before it even started.

 

[Missourian]

Not to sound like a smart ass but I thought this was common knowledge. It pretty much explains Hillary's ties with the Saudis. Of course there are many other layers but this is undoubtedly why the US is so anti-Assad.

When I Google "Syria Pipeline" I get a lot of generic website hits on this proposed pipeline and it's link to the Syrian War, but not a single mainstream news source...not even when I go to the "News" tab. It looks like ZeroHedge covered it, and Ecowatch, and this Australian News Site that I linked to, but nothing larger than that.

I forget where I heard people discussing it but I heard it before the whole mess in Syria really got going. I wish I had taken note of the source but I do recall one guy calling this mess before hand. His point was that the US and Europe were going to go after the Assad regime because of their ties to the Russians and the desire to have a future gas pipeline controlled by the gulf states and not the Syrians/Russians/Iranians. Just another proxy war.

The strange thing is I now have friends and family members that think I'm an expert on the whole mess even though I keep saying I just heard a guy talking about it before the war even started. Who ever he was he nailed it, called the whole mess before it even started.

Hopefully it will come to you where you heard it. I'd like to say it was strange or embarrassing that our MSM hasn't made the connect, but I suspect the truth is more depressing.

 

[Missourian]

Anyone seen this in the MSM?

 

[Missourian]

Obviously I need to change the title of this thread. How about "Superpowers instigate Syrian War over natural gas pipeline!"

 

[Manonthestreet]

Northern Europe's Top Offshore Oil, Gas Discoveries in 2016

One of largest nat gas fields in world was discovered in Egypt not too long ago.....whole lot closer in the Med.......pull your tanker up, fill and go

 

[Penelope]

Not to sound like a smart ass but I thought this was common knowledge. It pretty much explains Hillary's ties with the Saudis. Of course there are many other layers but this is undoubtedly why the US is so anti-Assad.

Could very well be common knowledge and I just missed it somehow. Believe me when I tell you I was jaw droppingly shocked when I stumbled upon it this evening.

Yes, Europe does not want to have to depend on Russia.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Not to sound like a smart ass but I thought this was common knowledge. It pretty much explains Hillary's ties with the Saudis. Of course there are many other layers but this is undoubtedly why the US is so anti-Assad.

Could very well be common knowledge and I just missed it somehow. Believe me when I tell you I was jaw droppingly shocked when I stumbled upon it this evening.

Yes, Europe does not want to have to depend on Russia.

They should stop doing it then........their own fault

 

[Missourian]

Yes, Europe does not want to have to depend on Russia.

Would you condone Obama aiding in Regime Change in Syria to accomplish that goal?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I haven't seen this in mainstream but theyre too busy covering senseless mindless trash that isn't even pertinent to real news. Incredible find. The truth is still on there. It's saddening that there must be so much digging to find it.

 

[Missourian]

Northern Europe's Top Offshore Oil, Gas Discoveries in 2016

One of largest nat gas fields in world was discovered in Egypt not too long ago.....whole lot closer in the Med.......pull your tanker up, fill and go

The article covers that. Qatar already has a LNG fleet transporting system, but after the expense of transporting by tanker, Russian NG is significantly cheaper. Only by pipeline can they reduce costs to compete with Russia.

 

[Dschrute3]

Permanent War is all about the power and money. The dark reality is, for the Elites, there's much more money in war than there is in peace. So the wars will roll on. Peace is not an option.

 

[Penelope]

Yes, Europe does not want to have to depend on Russia.

Would you condone Obama aiding in Regime Change in Syria to accomplish that goal?

No. I say whatever pipeline goes through Syria's is Assad's choice and he picked Iran. You?

 

[Missourian]

And the plot thickens.

In July 2011 Iran, Iraq and Syria said they planned to sign a contract potentially worth around $6bn to construct a pipeline running from South Pars towards Europe, via these countries and Lebanon and then under the Mediterranean to a European country, with a refinery and related infrastructure in Damascus.[1][6][7][8] In November 2012 the United States dismissed reports that construction had begun on the pipeline, saying that this had been claimed repeatedly and that "it never seems to materialize."[9] A framework agreement was to be signed in early 2013, with costs now estimated at $10bn;[10] construction plans were delayed by the Syrian civil war.[11]

Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline - Wikipedia
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So, how's this for a conspiracy theory. Iraqi regime change to open the door to a pipeline through Iraq. Iran Nuclear Deal, substantial payoff and sanction relief. And then Syrian regime change. Wrap it up with a bow.

 

[Missourian]

Yes, Europe does not want to have to depend on Russia.

Would you condone Obama aiding in Regime Change in Syria to accomplish that goal?

No. I say whatever pipeline goes through Syria's is Assad's choice and he picked Iran. You?

I agree. But I believe, given the evidence, that that is exactly what Obama was attempting to do by dragging us into a combat roll in Syria.

President Obama seeks Congressional approval for intervention

Following the publication on 30 August of the U.S. Government Assessment of the Syrian Government’s Use of Chemical Weapons on August 21, 2013, President Obama gave a speech in the White House rose garden on 31 August in which he announced that he would seek authorization from Congress before using American military forces to intervene in the Syrian civil war.[33] In the speech, he announced that he was "prepared to give that order," referring to ordering a strike on Syria.[33]

Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against the Government of Syria to Respond to Use of Chemical Weapons - Wikipedia
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[Penelope]

Yes, Europe does not want to have to depend on Russia.

Would you condone Obama aiding in Regime Change in Syria to accomplish that goal?

No. I say whatever pipeline goes through Syria's is Assad's choice and he picked Iran. You?

I agree. But I believe, given the evidence, that that is exactly what Obama was attempting to do by dragging us into a combat roll in Syria.

President Obama seeks Congressional approval for intervention

Following the publication on 30 August of the U.S. Government Assessment of the Syrian Government’s Use of Chemical Weapons on August 21, 2013, President Obama gave a speech in the White House rose garden on 31 August in which he announced that he would seek authorization from Congress before using American military forces to intervene in the Syrian civil war.[33] In the speech, he announced that he was "prepared to give that order," referring to ordering a strike on Syria.[33]

Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against the Government of Syria to Respond to Use of Chemical Weapons - Wikipedia
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I think we were late to enter Syria, and SA and the Sunni rebels were there already I also think Israel was involved in us getting involved with their hatred for Iran and Assad in Syria. SA and Israel are allies.

Coincidence I think not, a sign from Israel to begin bombing.
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=20359

Israel new year, day before shoots down plane, they go on vacation

US first bombs Syria Sept 14, 2014, same day as Israel’s New Year.

 

[Missourian]

Yes, Europe does not want to have to depend on Russia.

Would you condone Obama aiding in Regime Change in Syria to accomplish that goal?

No. I say whatever pipeline goes through Syria's is Assad's choice and he picked Iran. You?

I agree. But I believe, given the evidence, that that is exactly what Obama was attempting to do by dragging us into a combat roll in Syria.

President Obama seeks Congressional approval for intervention

Following the publication on 30 August of the U.S. Government Assessment of the Syrian Government’s Use of Chemical Weapons on August 21, 2013, President Obama gave a speech in the White House rose garden on 31 August in which he announced that he would seek authorization from Congress before using American military forces to intervene in the Syrian civil war.[33] In the speech, he announced that he was "prepared to give that order," referring to ordering a strike on Syria.[33]

Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against the Government of Syria to Respond to Use of Chemical Weapons - Wikipedia
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I think we were late to enter Syria, and SA and the Sunni rebels were there already I also think Israel was involved in us getting involved with their hatred for Iran and Assad in Syria. SA and Israel are allies.

Coincidence I think not, a sign from Israel to begin bombing.
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=20359

Israel new year, day before shoots down plane, they go on vacation

US first bombs Syria Sept 14, 2014, same day as Israel’s New Year.

Crap, forgot who I was talking to. My mistake.