Tell us, what would YOU do to defeat Isis?

[deltex1]

So I'm watching With all Due Respect with Mark Halperin, and Nicole Wallace and some older white Republican were the guests. So they asked the older guy how Obama was doing against Isis. He said Obama is so scared and Isis knows it. Because Obama can't say the words "Islamic Terrorists", Isis knows they have him scared and weak. As long as Obama won't say those words, Isis won't take him seriously.

So all it takes is those to words to scare Isis.

So then the question came up, "What was Obama's biggest mistake". Nicole Wallace said the Red Line, which, of course, had nothing to do with Isis.

Then the male guest was asked what he would do if he were president. He said, that's easy, he would have experts follow the bad guys on the Internet, find out where they are and do something.
That's what he said, he would do something. Apparently, Obama isn't "doing something".

So to all you right wingers, tell us what you would do that Obama isn't doing to take out Isis. Tell us how it's done.

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

 

[DAlnB41]

What would WE do? We support a freaking "intelligence" network with a freaking secret budget and an FBI that couldn't find the Boston Marathon bombers before they committed an atrocity and ended the investigation into the Orlando shooter and you ask us "what would we do"? As usual the radical left has the world upside down and ass backwards.

Exactly. Given that government lacks the competence to run a laundromat, why did you trust Bush with the money and power to rebuild the Arab world in our image.

For all your talk about the limits of government, your party has given it more power than the Left in my lifetime.

Your global war on terror has made things worse. With the Patriot Act and Dept. of Homeland Security, you've created an invasive surveillance state, which is coupled with a totally broken Middle East.

God help us if you win the next election, because lord only knows what contingent you will entrust Washington to break-then-rebuild next.

We all want to kill evil-doers, but sometimes entrusting Washington to solve BIG problems IS the problem.

Please fucking stop breaking things that you don't know how to fix, and don't depend on the Left to fix your fucking mess because they will make it worse too.

 

[DAlnB41]

What would WE do? We support a freaking "intelligence" network with a freaking secret budget and an FBI that couldn't find the Boston Marathon bombers before they committed an atrocity and ended the investigation into the Orlando shooter and you ask us "what would we do"? As usual the radical left has the world upside down and ass backwards.

First thing to do MUST BE - Recognize the threat; acknowledge it and dedicate the resources to change it!
A clever commander will impose his will on the enemy and never allow the enemy to withstand the battle!
No one ever wins by "doing nothing" as has become the Obama trade mark!
Sun Tzu said, "Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." Obama always announces his plans several weeks (months) ahead of time then takes his time while applying minimal resources almost as if intending to loose the battle; he never accomplishes anything! It seems he dedicates our men and women to failure rather than seek a fast win!

 

[rdean]

So I'm watching With all Due Respect with Mark Halperin, and Nicole Wallace and some older white Republican were the guests. So they asked the older guy how Obama was doing against Isis. He said Obama is so scared and Isis knows it. Because Obama can't say the words "Islamic Terrorists", Isis knows they have him scared and weak. As long as Obama won't say those words, Isis won't take him seriously.

So all it takes is those to words to scare Isis.

So then the question came up, "What was Obama's biggest mistake". Nicole Wallace said the Red Line, which, of course, had nothing to do with Isis.

Then the male guest was asked what he would do if he were president. He said, that's easy, he would have experts follow the bad guys on the Internet, find out where they are and do something.
That's what he said, he would do something. Apparently, Obama isn't "doing something".

So to all you right wingers, tell us what you would do that Obama isn't doing to take out Isis. Tell us how it's done.

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

 

[deltex1]

So I'm watching With all Due Respect with Mark Halperin, and Nicole Wallace and some older white Republican were the guests. So they asked the older guy how Obama was doing against Isis. He said Obama is so scared and Isis knows it. Because Obama can't say the words "Islamic Terrorists", Isis knows they have him scared and weak. As long as Obama won't say those words, Isis won't take him seriously.

So all it takes is those to words to scare Isis.

So then the question came up, "What was Obama's biggest mistake". Nicole Wallace said the Red Line, which, of course, had nothing to do with Isis.

Then the male guest was asked what he would do if he were president. He said, that's easy, he would have experts follow the bad guys on the Internet, find out where they are and do something.
That's what he said, he would do something. Apparently, Obama isn't "doing something".

So to all you right wingers, tell us what you would do that Obama isn't doing to take out Isis. Tell us how it's done.

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

Read what I wrote, Mary. My solution is to kill Isis.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

B52 bombers. Kill every man woman and child in ISIS occupied territory. Put fear of wrath of God in them. Hit the Shia Iranians too. Put fear of wrath of God in them as well. Eliminate North Korea as a threat and send message to world that we are ready, willing, and able to force our will upon your miserable ass.

point is that we should not be willing to force our will on others.
We should only be able to force them to respect our country and our countries allies.
as far as bombing the F out of people, It could not be nuclear, yes we could totally eliminate North Korea, but what happens when the chinese start experiencing the fallout that is sure to come their way? same with the sand pit in the middle east. Those countries are fairly small and the fallout would carry over to places we dont have any reason to harm.
non nuke bombs would not be as effective as you would want, they would very likely strengthen ISIS as more and more people joined them to retaliate against us for killing their kids and families that basically were not our enemy in the first place.
Its a tough call. Doing what actually might work could very likely backfire and in all seriousness, bring on WW3 as countries began retailiating for the collateral damage that it would bring.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So I'm watching With all Due Respect with Mark Halperin, and Nicole Wallace and some older white Republican were the guests. So they asked the older guy how Obama was doing against Isis. He said Obama is so scared and Isis knows it. Because Obama can't say the words "Islamic Terrorists", Isis knows they have him scared and weak. As long as Obama won't say those words, Isis won't take him seriously.

So all it takes is those to words to scare Isis.

So then the question came up, "What was Obama's biggest mistake". Nicole Wallace said the Red Line, which, of course, had nothing to do with Isis.

Then the male guest was asked what he would do if he were president. He said, that's easy, he would have experts follow the bad guys on the Internet, find out where they are and do something.
That's what he said, he would do something. Apparently, Obama isn't "doing something".

So to all you right wingers, tell us what you would do that Obama isn't doing to take out Isis. Tell us how it's done.

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

Read what I wrote, Mary. My solution is to kill Isis.

As soon as we get a handle on climate change ISIS will settle down......

 

[easyt65]

Marilyn Patriot: 'Be willing to not force our will on others...'

Obama disagrees.
He sided / allied himself with Al Qaeida to fight an un-sanctioned personal war to overthrow Qaddafi.

He sided with / created ISIS to try to overthrow Assad.

Of course Bush overthrew Hussein.

JFK once said we would bear any burden, pay any price, to stand with those who fought for freedom.

Of course, I'm not sure helping terrorists like ISIS and Al Qaeida take over their own countries is what he meant.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So I'm watching With all Due Respect with Mark Halperin, and Nicole Wallace and some older white Republican were the guests. So they asked the older guy how Obama was doing against Isis. He said Obama is so scared and Isis knows it. Because Obama can't say the words "Islamic Terrorists", Isis knows they have him scared and weak. As long as Obama won't say those words, Isis won't take him seriously.

So all it takes is those to words to scare Isis.

So then the question came up, "What was Obama's biggest mistake". Nicole Wallace said the Red Line, which, of course, had nothing to do with Isis.

Then the male guest was asked what he would do if he were president. He said, that's easy, he would have experts follow the bad guys on the Internet, find out where they are and do something.
That's what he said, he would do something. Apparently, Obama isn't "doing something".

So to all you right wingers, tell us what you would do that Obama isn't doing to take out Isis. Tell us how it's done.

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

Read what I wrote, Mary. My solution is to kill Isis.

Were you alluding to this also? People knew and said nothing...they die also

FBI: People Knew Chattanooga Jihadi Was Radicalized, Said Nothing

 

[rdean]

So I'm watching With all Due Respect with Mark Halperin, and Nicole Wallace and some older white Republican were the guests. So they asked the older guy how Obama was doing against Isis. He said Obama is so scared and Isis knows it. Because Obama can't say the words "Islamic Terrorists", Isis knows they have him scared and weak. As long as Obama won't say those words, Isis won't take him seriously.

So all it takes is those to words to scare Isis.

So then the question came up, "What was Obama's biggest mistake". Nicole Wallace said the Red Line, which, of course, had nothing to do with Isis.

Then the male guest was asked what he would do if he were president. He said, that's easy, he would have experts follow the bad guys on the Internet, find out where they are and do something.
That's what he said, he would do something. Apparently, Obama isn't "doing something".

So to all you right wingers, tell us what you would do that Obama isn't doing to take out Isis. Tell us how it's done.

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

Read what I wrote, Mary. My solution is to kill Isis.

And how would you find them?

 

[rdean]

So I'm watching With all Due Respect with Mark Halperin, and Nicole Wallace and some older white Republican were the guests. So they asked the older guy how Obama was doing against Isis. He said Obama is so scared and Isis knows it. Because Obama can't say the words "Islamic Terrorists", Isis knows they have him scared and weak. As long as Obama won't say those words, Isis won't take him seriously.

So all it takes is those to words to scare Isis.

So then the question came up, "What was Obama's biggest mistake". Nicole Wallace said the Red Line, which, of course, had nothing to do with Isis.

Then the male guest was asked what he would do if he were president. He said, that's easy, he would have experts follow the bad guys on the Internet, find out where they are and do something.
That's what he said, he would do something. Apparently, Obama isn't "doing something".

So to all you right wingers, tell us what you would do that Obama isn't doing to take out Isis. Tell us how it's done.

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

Read what I wrote, Mary. My solution is to kill Isis.

Were you alluding to this also? People knew and said nothing...they die also

FBI: People Knew Chattanooga Jihadi Was Radicalized, Said Nothing

You want to ban and blame Muslims and then insist they should be punished for not helping you?

Does anyone see a problem with this picture?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So I'm watching With all Due Respect with Mark Halperin, and Nicole Wallace and some older white Republican were the guests. So they asked the older guy how Obama was doing against Isis. He said Obama is so scared and Isis knows it. Because Obama can't say the words "Islamic Terrorists", Isis knows they have him scared and weak. As long as Obama won't say those words, Isis won't take him seriously.

So all it takes is those to words to scare Isis.

So then the question came up, "What was Obama's biggest mistake". Nicole Wallace said the Red Line, which, of course, had nothing to do with Isis.

Then the male guest was asked what he would do if he were president. He said, that's easy, he would have experts follow the bad guys on the Internet, find out where they are and do something.
That's what he said, he would do something. Apparently, Obama isn't "doing something".

So to all you right wingers, tell us what you would do that Obama isn't doing to take out Isis. Tell us how it's done.

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

Read what I wrote, Mary. My solution is to kill Isis.

Were you alluding to this also? People knew and said nothing...they die also

FBI: People Knew Chattanooga Jihadi Was Radicalized, Said Nothing

You want to ban and blame Muslims and then insist they should be punished for not helping you?

Does anyone see a problem with this picture?

You're putting words in my comment that are not there, stop derping like a derp, derp. Besides nobody takes you serious

 

[deltex1]

So I'm watching With all Due Respect with Mark Halperin, and Nicole Wallace and some older white Republican were the guests. So they asked the older guy how Obama was doing against Isis. He said Obama is so scared and Isis knows it. Because Obama can't say the words "Islamic Terrorists", Isis knows they have him scared and weak. As long as Obama won't say those words, Isis won't take him seriously.

So all it takes is those to words to scare Isis.

So then the question came up, "What was Obama's biggest mistake". Nicole Wallace said the Red Line, which, of course, had nothing to do with Isis.

Then the male guest was asked what he would do if he were president. He said, that's easy, he would have experts follow the bad guys on the Internet, find out where they are and do something.
That's what he said, he would do something. Apparently, Obama isn't "doing something".

So to all you right wingers, tell us what you would do that Obama isn't doing to take out Isis. Tell us how it's done.

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

Read what I wrote, Mary. My solution is to kill Isis.

Were you alluding to this also? People knew and said nothing...they die also

FBI: People Knew Chattanooga Jihadi Was Radicalized, Said Nothing

You want to ban and blame Muslims and then insist they should be punished for not helping you?

Does anyone see a problem with this picture?

They should be punished for not handling their problem....their problem that has become the world's problem. Enough is enough. Just tell them the consequences of inaction...then follow thru.

 

[deltex1]

First I'd decouple the issue from electoral politics. I'd stop using the issue to scare voters in the voting booth. (This leads to lying, especially when your party benefits from increased terrorism.)

Second. I'd educate voters on the challenges to creating political stability in a region with such deep tribal conflicts. Political stability is crucial to building a consistent and durable Arab-lead military response to ISIS.

To create political stability, I'd help republicans take a critical stance toward FOX News, which doesn't speak of the regional tribal complexities between Kurds or Shiites. [It doesn't help that most Fox News viewers don't know who controls the Syrian government, or why Reagan chose to support Hussein, because he needed a brutal strongman to keep the warring tribes in line].

Too many voters see the region as a monolithic block of evil doers who just need to be killed. This is fucking insane because their are over a billion Muslims. The inability of Bush to stabilize the country after 6 years of bombing should help Republican voters see that brute military force is meaningless in the absence of a stable government that can HOLD military gains. [What if Republicans over-estimated the power of Washington to magically rebuild an entire Arab region in our image? What if Washington's intervention actually made the region worse and more unstable? Why don't Republicans understand the limits of Washington's power to save the world?]

Third. I'd sacrifice the electoral and geopolitical benefits of Islamophobia for a more nuanced view of how important it is for us to win over and work with moderate Muslims, who number in the hundreds of millions. If the Trump vision wins, than our fear/hatred of all Muslims will drive moderates into the hands of the radicals. This will make it impossible to create stable pro-western governments in the region.

Here is the real challenge. The Right benefits from instability and violence in the Middle East. Terrorism not only gives the them a National Security issue for winning elections, but it provides a very useful context for continued intervention in the world's most important market (energy). This is why they had so much trouble when the Cold War ended, because they needed the Soviet Threat to intervene in resource-rich parts of the third world.

So to solve the ISIS problem, the first thing I'd do is unplug our Republican friends from the idiot-press so that they could see the region's problems and solutions beyond the insanely simplistic optic of killing evil doers.

We need to build stable governments who can hold military gains or we're simply throwing lives down the drain. Trump never mentions how he is going to create political stability, nor does Fox News. This is fucking insane.

If you characterize what bush did as brute force, you have a different idea of brute force from my definition.

 

[rdean]

First I'd decouple the issue from electoral politics. I'd stop using the issue to scare voters in the voting booth. (This leads to lying, especially when your party benefits from increased terrorism.)

Second. I'd educate voters on the challenges to creating political stability in a region with such deep tribal conflicts. Political stability is crucial to building a consistent and durable Arab-lead military response to ISIS.

To create political stability, I'd help republicans take a critical stance toward FOX News, which doesn't speak of the regional tribal complexities between Kurds or Shiites. [It doesn't help that most Fox News viewers don't know who controls the Syrian government, or why Reagan chose to support Hussein, because he needed a brutal strongman to keep the warring tribes in line].

Too many voters see the region as a monolithic block of evil doers who just need to be killed. This is fucking insane because their are over a billion Muslims. The inability of Bush to stabilize the country after 6 years of bombing should help Republican voters see that brute military force is meaningless in the absence of a stable government that can HOLD military gains. [What if Republicans over-estimated the power of Washington to magically rebuild an entire Arab region in our image? What if Washington's intervention actually made the region worse and more unstable? Why don't Republicans understand the limits of Washington's power to save the world?]

Third. I'd sacrifice the electoral and geopolitical benefits of Islamophobia for a more nuanced view of how important it is for us to win over and work with moderate Muslims, who number in the hundreds of millions. If the Trump vision wins, than our fear/hatred of all Muslims will drive moderates into the hands of the radicals. This will make it impossible to create stable pro-western governments in the region.

Here is the real challenge. The Right benefits from instability and violence in the Middle East. Terrorism not only gives the them a National Security issue for winning elections, but it provides a very useful context for continued intervention in the world's most important market (energy). This is why they had so much trouble when the Cold War ended, because they needed the Soviet Threat to intervene in resource-rich parts of the third world.

So to solve the ISIS problem, the first thing I'd do is unplug our Republican friends from the idiot-press so that they could see the region's problems and solutions beyond the insanely simplistic optic of killing evil doers.

We need to build stable governments who can hold military gains or we're simply throwing lives down the drain. Trump never mentions how he is going to create political stability, nor does Fox News. This is fucking insane.

If you characterize what bush did as brute force, you have a different idea of brute force from my definition.

Because bombs and troops and tanks have never been brute force.

 

[rdean]

I would tell the leaders of all the countries that have elements of Isis within their population, to aggressively pursue and kill them all...including their families and goat it necessary....or be prepared to die yourself.

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

Read what I wrote, Mary. My solution is to kill Isis.

Were you alluding to this also? People knew and said nothing...they die also

FBI: People Knew Chattanooga Jihadi Was Radicalized, Said Nothing

You want to ban and blame Muslims and then insist they should be punished for not helping you?

Does anyone see a problem with this picture?

They should be punished for not handling their problem....their problem that has become the world's problem. Enough is enough. Just tell them the consequences of inaction...then follow thru.

They, meaning Muslims should be punished. Who are "they"?

American Christians should be punished because other American Christians kill doctors and blow up clinics?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So your solution is to kill babies, children and women?

Read what I wrote, Mary. My solution is to kill Isis.

Were you alluding to this also? People knew and said nothing...they die also

FBI: People Knew Chattanooga Jihadi Was Radicalized, Said Nothing

You want to ban and blame Muslims and then insist they should be punished for not helping you?

Does anyone see a problem with this picture?

They should be punished for not handling their problem....their problem that has become the world's problem. Enough is enough. Just tell them the consequences of inaction...then follow thru.

They, meaning Muslims should be punished. Who are "they"?

American Christians should be punished because other American Christians kill doctors and blow up clinics?

If Christians knew it was going on or going to happen and did nothing then yes they should be punished. Poor analogy Derp