Terminating healthcare workers backfires

[Smokin' OP]

And in the Head Start case where they required all teachers to be vaxed, a federal judge ruled that a President cannot make laws from the White House. Laws have to be made in Congress and then signed by the President. A President making laws on his own or insisting a bureaucracy do it for him is an Autocracy, not a Republic.

You're FOS......................AGAIN.

September 9, 2021
As the delta variant continues to complicate the start of the new school year, President Biden called on states to require school staff get vaccinated and for public schools to regularly test students and staff for COVID.

The administration also said staff who work in Head Start programs and in schools run by the Bureau of Indian Affairs and Department of Defense will be required to be vaccinated. That represents a small fraction of the nation’s school staff— some 300,000 people — but shows the federal government is willing to use the limited power it does have to ensure some school staff are vaccinated.

NOT a law, idiot, a mandate.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You're FOS......................AGAIN.

September 9, 2021
As the delta variant continues to complicate the start of the new school year, President Biden called on states to require school staff get vaccinated and for public schools to regularly test students and staff for COVID.

The administration also said staff who work in Head Start programs and in schools run by the Bureau of Indian Affairs and Department of Defense will be required to be vaccinated. That represents a small fraction of the nation’s school staff— some 300,000 people — but shows the federal government is willing to use the limited power it does have to ensure some school staff are vaccinated.

NOT a law, idiot, a mandate.

Federal judge blocks Biden vaccine mandate for Head Start workers in 24 states • Kansas Reflector

A Louisiana federal judge has put a hold on President Joe Biden’s mandate that Head Start workers be vaccinated against COVID-19. U.S. District Judge Terry Doughty, who previously ruled against a vaccine mandate for health care workers, issued a preliminary injunction on New Year’s Day...

kansasreflector.com

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So, Biden corrected himself in the same fucking press conference.

Yes, he corrected his statement that you won't end up in the hospital with you're not going to get covid if you get the vax. You can't correct a statement before you even made it.

 

[JoeB131]

What kind of training do you think nursing home people have? Most places have one RN for the entire facility. The rest are just bed pan changers.

I've done a ton of resumes for Nursing Home Workers... Not a one of them just changed bedpans, and most of them had at least a nursing certificate.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I've done a ton of resumes for Nursing Home Workers... Not a one of them just changed bedpans, and most of them had at least a nursing certificate.

Bullshit. I have family and associates that work in nursing homes. If they were nurses I'd know about it. My cousin nor my three tenants that work in nursing homes have zero training in nursing. Our military in that field have a ton of training and could have handled the covid situation much better instead of letting them infect other elderly patients and letting them die.

 

[mamooth]

Another science hater who thinks the ‘vaccine’ keeps you from catching and spreading the virus.

Vaccines greatly reduce the risk of catching and spreading the virus. That definitely includes Omicron. Any non-retard and non-liar will say that, which rules out all antivaxxers.

Fortunately for society, antivaxx stupidity tends to be ... well, self-deleting. Because of COVID, the Republicans are losing, relative to Democrats, about 1000 voters a day. The cumulative effect will be enough to tip some elections.

I mention that not to gloat, but as a last-ditch attempt to get Republicans to get themselves vaccinated. Maybe the threat of Democrats winning more elections is the only thing that can do it.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Einsteins I tell ya...

Fox News: Weeks after Minnesota nurses warn of staffing crisis, Mayo Clinic fires 700 unvaccinated workers.

Weeks after Minnesota nurses warn of staffing crisis, Mayo Clinic fires 700 unvaccinated workers

The Mayo Clinic in Minnesota fired 700 employees who did not comply with a vaccine mandate.

www.foxnews.com

 

[JoeB131]

Bullshit. I have family and associates that work in nursing homes. If they were nurses I'd know about it. My cousin nor my three tenants that work in nursing homes have zero training in nursing. Our military in that field have a ton of training and could have handled the covid situation much better instead of letting them infect other elderly patients and letting them die.

Having undergone two elective surgeries at military hospitals... not the first guys I'd go to if my life was at risk.

Again, we didn't have enough military assets to support the 44,000 new Covid Cases a week in NY. but you guys needs to blame anyone but Trump for TRUMP PLAGUE.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Vaccines greatly reduce the risk of catching and spreading the virus. That definitely includes Omicron. Any non-retard and non-liar will say that, which rules out all antivaxxers.

Fortunately for society, antivaxx stupidity tends to be ... well, self-deleting. Because of COVID, the Republicans are losing, relative to Democrats, about 1000 voters a day. The cumulative effect will be enough to tip some elections.

I mention that not to gloat, but as a last-ditch attempt to get Republicans to get themselves vaccinated. Maybe the threat of Democrats winning more elections is the only thing that can do it.

Why do you Leftards hate science so much? The vaccines at best help you fight off the infection. They do zero for preventing you from catching and spreading it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Having undergone two elective surgeries at military hospitals... not the first guys I'd go to if my life was at risk.

Again, we didn't have enough military assets to support the 44,000 new Covid Cases a week in NY. but you guys needs to blame anyone but Trump for TRUMP PLAGUE.

More lies. Empty military hospital ship sat alone waiting for patients that never arrived.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Einsteins I tell ya...

Fox News: Weeks after Minnesota nurses warn of staffing crisis, Mayo Clinic fires 700 unvaccinated workers.

Weeks after Minnesota nurses warn of staffing crisis, Mayo Clinic fires 700 unvaccinated workers

The Mayo Clinic in Minnesota fired 700 employees who did not comply with a vaccine mandate.

www.foxnews.com

Yep. Some emergency. Fire thousands of trained medical staff during a ‘medical crisis’.

 

[JoeB131]

More lies. Empty military hospital ship sat alone waiting for patients that never arrived.

Exactly...

Now, if you bothered to educate yourself, you'd realize why it wasn't used.

Strict rules are preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board. The navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines sent to hospitals included a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship.

Ambulances cannot take patients directly to the Comfort. First, they must deliver patients to a city hospital to be tested for the virus and then pick them up again for transport to the ship. Hospital leaders rightfully find the delays untenable.

There are understandable challenges to making the Comfort ready for Covid-19 patients. Infections could spread easily in a confined area. The cramped conditions are suitable for wounded sailors but not necessarily civilians. When Hurricane Maria ravaged Puerto Rico, the Comfort failed to relieve much of the strain of hospitals, treating only six patients a day.

Ultimately, politicians like Trump and Cuomo invested far too much hope in one hospital ship. It’s the tragic consequence of failing in the most brutal way to prepare for such a pandemic. America knew what was happening in China, Spain, Italy and elsewhere: there were many weeks of lead time that other countries couldn’t benefit from.

The vacant Comfort hospital ship is a symbol of our coronavirus failure | Ross Barkan

The hospital ship docked in New York City is a sad representation of the federal and local response to coronavirus: too little and far too late

www.theguardian.com

 

[Rigby5]

It's hilarious... you wingnuts did everything you could to resist controlling this disease and now you are whining we are having another spike.

That is silly.
Look at all the right wingers, like Trump, Pfizer, Moderna, etc., who all supported and wanted to make money off tests and vaccines.
None of the right was against the fake mRNA vaccines.

The people who revealed the mRNA injections were fake and added zero immunity were people like the Great Barrington Declaration, the inventor mRNA techniques, Dr. Robert Malone, etc.

It should be obvious to anyone the mRNA injections do NOT create any sort of immunity.
First of all, the efficacy is dropping to zero in less than 6 months, requiring boosters every 6 months, when real immunity is normally life long and never needs boosters.
Second is that since these mRNA injections only get our own cells to start producing spike proteins, that could never possibly ever cause any sort of immunity memory. What is going to get put into T-cell memory? Can't be spike proteins because they are used by our own exosomes.

 

[Rigby5]

<1% fired. Those were the ones everyone was better off without. No hospital wants cult imbeciles who deny basic medical science around.

Why did that <1% even exist? Because any field has a few religious nutjobs in it.

Employers love vaccine mandates. They cause the trash to take itself out.

That is a lie.
Most of the medical profession was strongly against these mRNA injections.
Most took them anyway, because they to at least temporarily increase antibody production, and are not that risky, but NO ONE like them.

There mRNA injections are NOT at all vaccines.
They do not create any long term T-cell memory, at all.
Anyone who supports these mRNA injections is anti-science, really ignorant, and a political hack.

 

[Rigby5]

Exactly...

Now, if you bothered to educate yourself, you'd realize why it wasn't used.

Strict rules are preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board. The navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines sent to hospitals included a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship.

Ambulances cannot take patients directly to the Comfort. First, they must deliver patients to a city hospital to be tested for the virus and then pick them up again for transport to the ship. Hospital leaders rightfully find the delays untenable.

There are understandable challenges to making the Comfort ready for Covid-19 patients. Infections could spread easily in a confined area. The cramped conditions are suitable for wounded sailors but not necessarily civilians. When Hurricane Maria ravaged Puerto Rico, the Comfort failed to relieve much of the strain of hospitals, treating only six patients a day.

Ultimately, politicians like Trump and Cuomo invested far too much hope in one hospital ship. It’s the tragic consequence of failing in the most brutal way to prepare for such a pandemic. America knew what was happening in China, Spain, Italy and elsewhere: there were many weeks of lead time that other countries couldn’t benefit from.

The vacant Comfort hospital ship is a symbol of our coronavirus failure | Ross Barkan

The hospital ship docked in New York City is a sad representation of the federal and local response to coronavirus: too little and far too late

www.theguardian.com

Wrong.
Trump was the Commander and Chief back then, and he ordered the USNS Comfort specifically to take covid-19 patients.
There simply were not enough covid-19 patients.
Because the USNS Comfort was not part of any insurance network, no ambulances, patients, or hospital referrals sent anyone there.
It had NOTHING at all to do with the ship refusing patients, as usually it is sent to disasters in places like Africa, where it is the only medical facility and it has always accepted everyone.
The article is just a total lie.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Exactly...

Now, if you bothered to educate yourself, you'd realize why it wasn't used.

Strict rules are preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board. The navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines sent to hospitals included a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship.

Ambulances cannot take patients directly to the Comfort. First, they must deliver patients to a city hospital to be tested for the virus and then pick them up again for transport to the ship. Hospital leaders rightfully find the delays untenable.

There are understandable challenges to making the Comfort ready for Covid-19 patients. Infections could spread easily in a confined area. The cramped conditions are suitable for wounded sailors but not necessarily civilians. When Hurricane Maria ravaged Puerto Rico, the Comfort failed to relieve much of the strain of hospitals, treating only six patients a day.

Ultimately, politicians like Trump and Cuomo invested far too much hope in one hospital ship. It’s the tragic consequence of failing in the most brutal way to prepare for such a pandemic. America knew what was happening in China, Spain, Italy and elsewhere: there were many weeks of lead time that other countries couldn’t benefit from.

The vacant Comfort hospital ship is a symbol of our coronavirus failure | Ross Barkan

The hospital ship docked in New York City is a sad representation of the federal and local response to coronavirus: too little and far too late

www.theguardian.com

They took in patients to relieve hospitals from being overrun.
Epic failure.

 

[mamooth]

Why do you Leftards hate science so much? The vaccines at best help you fight off the infection. They do zero for preventing you from catching and spreading it.

You're off in your own death cult dimension here, one that has no connection to reality.

At this stage, we know we can't save you. Your death cult's brainwashing is irreversible. All we can do is try to stop you from taking innocent people with you.

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong.
Trump was the Commander and Chief back then, and he ordered the USNS Comfort specifically to take covid-19 patients.
There simply were not enough covid-19 patients.
Because the USNS Comfort was not part of any insurance network, no ambulances, patients, or hospital referrals sent anyone there.

Darned straight they didn't. WHo would take on that kind of liability?

If a hospital sent a patient to the Comfort and Corpsman Joe Tentpeg screwed up her treatment, the Shyster Lawyers would be circling.

The problem was, if you read the article, is that the ship had no way of preventing spread of contagion like a real hospital or nursing home. You couldn't seal parts of the ship off to prevent infection.

These ships were designed to take injured people off the battlefield and stabilize them long enough to be transferred to a real hospital. They were not designed to be long term hospitals themselves.

They took in patients to relieve hospitals from being overrun.
Epic failure.

Yup, it was an epic Trailer by Trump, a guy who could lose money selling steaks and vodka.

Trump was told as early as December this was a threat and did very little to prepare for it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Darned straight they didn't. WHo would take on that kind of liability?

If a hospital sent a patient to the Comfort and Corpsman Joe Tentpeg screwed up her treatment, the Shyster Lawyers would be circling.

The problem was, if you read the article, is that the ship had no way of preventing spread of contagion like a real hospital or nursing home. You couldn't seal parts of the ship off to prevent infection.

These ships were designed to take injured people off the battlefield and stabilize them long enough to be transferred to a real hospital. They were not designed to be long term hospitals themselves.



Yup, it was an epic Trailer by Trump, a guy who could lose money selling steaks and vodka.

Trump was told as early as December this was a threat and did very little to prepare for it.

Hospital ship didn’t take patients because of liability? A military hospital ship.
What liability is there if they took a patient with a hip fracture?

 

[bodecea]

Go troll someone else and stop derailing threads.

As for getting the vax? That's an individual's choice and nobody should be mandated to get it... that's just fascism...no wonder you're for it, eh?

Anyone who doesn't get the vax and wants to go to healthcare workers who refuse to get the vax deserve what they get.