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the passage is written as though they were in actual communication with the deity - without a doubt an elaborate stage to draw from.
has there ever been someone - destroyed off the face of the Earth - surly there have been plenty of candidates to chose from.
the laws are not the religion for whatever their role they are dependent on reading the book, the book as the above quote have neither provided the results depicted.
.Newtonian uses Non Judaic text, but the Hebrew Tanakh should be the only source to discuss or argue what it says and that text differs from Newtonians claims on Deut 6That question is an outright lie, otherwise you'd post what you saw that needed the source and would not avoid my post with such an ad hominem response.Ha Shev - is there some reason you are not citing chapter and verse? You want us to actually do the research? That is a good thing - but you have failed to note my research from the Jewish Encyclopedia in my above posts.
Matthew was quoting from the Greek Septuagint - which is a Jewish translation. The Jewish translators understood almah (young maiden) to mean parthenos (virgin) in that verse. Many Jews at Matthew's time spoke koine Greek - that's why the Greek LXX was translated from the Hebrew.
See our Bible dictionary here:
Immanuel — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
This is an authorized Web site of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is a research tool for publications in various languages produced by Jehovah’s Witnesses.wol.jw.org
Excerpt:
"Some have suggested that in the type back there “Immanuel” was a third son of Isaiah, perhaps by a Jewish maiden who may have become a second wife of the prophet. Certain Jewish commentators endeavored to apply the prophecy to the birth of Ahaz’ son Hezekiah. This, however, is ruled out, since the prophecy was uttered during Ahaz’ reign (Isa 7:1), making Hezekiah at least nine years old at the time.—2Ki 16:2; 18:1, 2.
Another possible candidate was Isaiah’s second son, mentioned in the next chapter, Maher-shalal-hash-baz, concerning whom it was said: “Before the boy will know how to call out, ‘My father!’ and ‘My mother!’ one will carry away the resources of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria before the king of Assyria.” (Isa 8:1-4) Certainly this echoes what was said about Immanuel: “Before the boy will know how to reject the bad and choose the good, the ground of whose two kings [of Damascus and Samaria] you are feeling a sickening dread will be left entirely.” (Isa 7:16) Also, the birth of Isaiah’s second son is presented in close connection with the further prophecy involving Immanuel and, as Immanuel was to be a “sign,” so also Isaiah said: “I and the children whom Jehovah has given me are as signs.”—Isa 7:14; 8:18.
The principal objection to this identification of Isaiah’s second son as the Immanuel of Ahaz’ day is on the grounds that Isaiah’s wife is spoken of as “the prophetess,” not as “the maiden,” as well as the fact that she was already the mother of Isaiah’s firstborn, Shear-jashub, hence no “maiden.” (Isa 7:3; 8:3) It may be noted, however, that the Hebrew word here translated “maiden” is not bethu·lahʹ, meaning, specifically, “virgin,” but is ʽal·mahʹ, having a broader reference to a young woman, who could be either a virgin maiden or a recently married woman. ʽAl·mahʹ as a common noun also occurs in six other texts, more than one of which specifically involves virgin maidens.—Ge 24:43 (compare vs 16); Ex 2:8; Ps 68:25; Pr 30:19; Ca 1:3; 6:8." [Ca is the Song of Solomon about the Shulahmite maiden who was a virgin]
Our dictionary goes on to explain that Mathew at Mt.1:22,23 was quoting the Jewish Greek LXX for Isaiah 7:14 which translates Hebrew almah as Greek parthenos. In my next post I will document that:
Context context context Isaiah 7-9 is the era of the war with Assyria not a future tense outside historical events of their era.
You avoided the topic & the fact that this is evidence regarding the writer of Matthew not being a Jew who would know this context and not need to selectively take it out of context for sake of "fake news".
Lastly, you can't use Isaiah Sheva (7) against me and discuss the son.
Isaiah 7:3 the son Isaiah is refering to is named Shear ‘Yshv’ (proper transliteration (pronounced hashev=return because Y=H sound) Shear ‘Yshv’ means a remnant shall ‘return’ (HaShev).
If they want to fallaciously claim This son holds the name of Moshiach then to bad that name is HaShev and not Jesus.
-checkmate
I'll take that house you JW's set aside for me now, oh yeah you guys sold it, because you really had no faith in what you teach and the money was more important than redemtion (HaShev).
I'll make this simple for you HaShev:
Matthew quoted the Greek Septuagint translation of Isaiah 7:14 in Matthew 1:22,23. The Greek Septuagint translates Hebrew almah as Greek parthenos/virgin. The Septuagint is a Jewish translation. This is therefore evidence Matthew was Jewish.
Note also that Matthew recorded Jesus stating the greatest commandment in the Bible is to love Jehovah with all our heart, soul and strength - see Matthew 22:37-40. Mark records more detail, to wit:
Mark 12:28-34
One of the scribes who had come up and heard them disputing, knowing that he had answered them in a fine way, asked him: “Which commandment is first* of all?”+ 29 Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah, 30 and you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.’+ 31 The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’+ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 The scribe said to him: “Teacher, you spoke well, in line with truth, ‘He is One, and there is no other besides him’;+ 33 and to love him with one’s whole heart, with one’s whole understanding, and with one’s whole strength and to love one’s neighbor as oneself is worth far more than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.”+ 34 At this Jesus, discerning that he had answered intelligently, said to him: “You are not far from the Kingdom of God.” But no one had the courage to question him anymore.+
Quoting accurately Deuteronomy 6:4,5 where the Divine Name appears 3 times:
Deuteronomy 6:4,5
“Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.+ 5 You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul*+ and all your strength.*+
This confirms Matthew, Mark and Jesus were Jewish. This is the beginning of the Jewish Shema right?
Note also that Jesus agreed Jehovah is ONE. This confirms Jesus, like the Jews, believed Jehovah is one not a trinity.
Devarim - Deuteronomy - Chapter 6 (Parshah Va'etchanan)
www.chabad.org
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the passage is written as though they were in actual communication with the deity - without a doubt an elaborate stage to draw from.
has there ever been someone - destroyed off the face of the Earth - surly there have been plenty of candidates to chose from.
the laws are not the religion for whatever their role they are dependent on reading the book, the book as the above quote have neither provided the results depicted.
