TNHarley
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you talk shit about the way it is run, then say people are stupid for being against it? lolI know a lot of "righties" that liked sanders. It wasn't his policies, but the fact he seemed to have integrity and focused on American advancement instead of foreign.
I liked Bernie. If he was the nom, I would vote for him over trump now. I would probably regret it in the long run, because now I know what a sell out he was/is.
Any integrity Sanders had went out the window when he sold out and supported Clinton
I don't understand this thinking. Sanders chose to run as a Democrat. Now that he's lost, he should turn his back on the party?
I would argue he's showing integrity by supporting the party nominee.
And more than that, practicality. We're mired in a winner-take-all Duopoly where we invariably end up with what's been called for my entire lifetime a choice between the "lesser of two evils". Because of the wacko Electoral College system, which I have no doubt the Duopoly seeks to perpetuate forever because it serves them to, no entity outside the Duopoly can possibly compete with it. The last outside entity to even outpoll either one of them was Teddy Roosevelt's run in 1912, and that was after he had the name recognition of eight years in the White House and came into the Republican convention having swept the primaries. TR pushed the Republican nominee to third place --- well, that's what the effect of Sanders bolting to a third party would have likely led to --- the installation of Mister Orange-a-Tan with less than 42% of the popular vote while he and Hillary split up the rest.
Those spewing about Sanders "not having integrity" -- like the post directly above -- belie their ignorance of how the System actually works.
Ironically it's only those who live in locked states (states going red or blue no matter what) who get a voice to choose a third party at all with a vote that means anything. And those states, by definition, would have fewer voters likely to do it anyway.
The system is just plain rigged. We can keep the Electoral College but we should increase its number from 538 to 219 million.
What kind of fallacy is that?