The Flood Of Illegal Immigrant Children: Why The Secrecy?

[ScreamingEagle]

Overall, the administration’s conduct smells like a cover-up. Why?

Without touching on the usual hot buttons, I wonder if we could at least agree that there is something—I grope here for the appropriate adjective—suspicious, irregular, uncomfortable, or not quite right about the administration’s furtiveness and secrecy in the current crisis of illegal immigrant minors flooding into the United States.

Team TISI +0.76% Obama has imposed at least a partial media blackout. Journalists seeking to interview the young detainees at Fort Sill, Oklahoma (a long way from the border they crossed) were put off for days, and even then told that their scheduled 40-minute tour would happen only on the grounds that the journalists would ask no questions, take no photos, make no recordings, or otherwise do the kind of investigative work that reporters normally do. Such a Potemkin-type tour with its heavy-handed censorship violates the people’s right to know.

At least one member of Congress (Rep. Jim Bridenstine, R-OK) has been denied access to the children detained at Fort Sill—rather astounding, considering that Bridenstine sits on the Armed Services Committee that oversees federal military installations and that Fort Sill is located in the state that the congressmen represents. Why the cloak and dagger? What’s the big secret? These are mostly peasant children, not dangerous spies or terrorist leaders.

Why, too, the seeming furtiveness with which the administration is transporting hundreds of these minors to various far-flung states? Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman declared, “I found out in the last 48 hours that approximately 200 illegal individuals have been transported to Nebraska. The federal government is complicit in a secret operation to transfer illegal individuals to my state and they won’t tell us who they are.” Denying the governor of a state that kind of information is high-handed and disrespectful. It certainly mocks the principle of federalism.

The Flood Of Illegal Immigrant Children: Why The Secrecy? - Forbes

 

[Ripple]

Overall, the administration’s conduct smells like a cover-up. Why?

Without touching on the usual hot buttons, I wonder if we could at least agree that there is something—I grope here for the appropriate adjective—suspicious, irregular, uncomfortable, or not quite right about the administration’s furtiveness and secrecy in the current crisis of illegal immigrant minors flooding into the United States.

Team TISI +0.76% Obama has imposed at least a partial media blackout. Journalists seeking to interview the young detainees at Fort Sill, Oklahoma (a long way from the border they crossed) were put off for days, and even then told that their scheduled 40-minute tour would happen only on the grounds that the journalists would ask no questions, take no photos, make no recordings, or otherwise do the kind of investigative work that reporters normally do. Such a Potemkin-type tour with its heavy-handed censorship violates the people’s right to know.

At least one member of Congress (Rep. Jim Bridenstine, R-OK) has been denied access to the children detained at Fort Sill—rather astounding, considering that Bridenstine sits on the Armed Services Committee that oversees federal military installations and that Fort Sill is located in the state that the congressmen represents. Why the cloak and dagger? What’s the big secret? These are mostly peasant children, not dangerous spies or terrorist leaders.

Why, too, the seeming furtiveness with which the administration is transporting hundreds of these minors to various far-flung states? Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman declared, “I found out in the last 48 hours that approximately 200 illegal individuals have been transported to Nebraska. The federal government is complicit in a secret operation to transfer illegal individuals to my state and they won’t tell us who they are.” Denying the governor of a state that kind of information is high-handed and disrespectful. It certainly mocks the principle of federalism.

The Flood Of Illegal Immigrant Children: Why The Secrecy? - Forbes

I like to compare Hurricane Katrina to this issue with unaccompanied minors showing up at the border.

With Hurricane Katrina the press was there at the Superdome filming the misery just days after the storm, along with the squalor, the lack of sanitation. With the Border the press has for the most part been kept at a distance.

No press, no issue. It becomes just another political discussion until an image of a dead boy floating face down in the Rio Grande is flashed on the screen or the fact that Lice and Scabies is so bad with these children that you have to use quarantine protocols to administer aid to them.

Who has the power to control the press? The answer is obvious to me. The press does not want this to embarrass the White House and undermine the lefts position on open borders.

stevay

 

[Manonthestreet]

Maybe because its very unpopular.....maybe wildly unpopular......

 

[occupied]

Secrecy is often used when the federal, state and local government is dealing with minors. Juveniles have additional rights to privacy and protection from the glaring eye of the public that adults do not have.

 

[boedicca]

Why the secrecy? Because it's yet another Porkfest maneuver to funnel taxpayer dollars to favored political cronies. Obama is planning to spend $78K per minor for room and board.

Considering that the average middle class household's income is around $50K, those illegal alien kids will either be living "onepercenter" lifestyles of a lot of money is going to be siphoned off by cronies.

 

[Katzndogz]

The story that the ones coming over are children is a fiction. More than 80% are men and 83% are over 14. obama is importing a huge gangland army. He doesn't want anyone to know.

 

[alan1]

White House Hid Huge Spike Of Families Crossing Border

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Secrecy is often used when the federal, state and local government is dealing with minors. Juveniles have additional rights to privacy and protection from the glaring eye of the public that adults do not have.

the public has the right to know what is happening to these children that they are paying for....that doesn't involve harming the childrens 'privacy' in any way...

also in the interest of public safety....we have the right to know what is going on with the contagious diseases that illegals are bringing here......this is putting American lives at risk....

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The story that the ones coming over are children is a fiction. More than 80% are men and 83% are over 14. obama is importing a huge gangland army. He doesn't want anyone to know.

BO is importing gangland violence and his 'revolucionaries'....

 

[MACAULAY]

The story that the ones coming over are children is a fiction. More than 80% are men and 83% are over 14. obama is importing a huge gangland army. He doesn't want anyone to know.

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I believe this is the correct answer--at least one of them.

Most of these "poor children" are 15, 16 and 17 year old young men---i.e. gangbangers.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

White House Hid Huge Spike Of Families Crossing Border

thanks.....this ^ explains alot...

so while the number of children has doubled (mostly 14-17yo)....the number of family units has QUINTUPLED...

no wonder BO doesn't want this to become widely known...

The much-faster growth in “family units” has been hidden by White House and agency officials, who have tried to portray the influx as a wave of children fleeing abuse and violence.

 

[occupied]

Secrecy is often used when the federal, state and local government is dealing with minors. Juveniles have additional rights to privacy and protection from the glaring eye of the public that adults do not have.

the public has the right to know what is happening to these children that they are paying for....that doesn't involve harming the childrens 'privacy' in any way...

also in the interest of public safety....we have the right to know what is going on with the contagious diseases that illegals are bringing here......this is putting American lives at risk....

Just as the law demands privacy and non disclosure it appoints people to manage these concerns in a discrete manor. This is how bureaucracy works. Unusual emergencies often expose shortcomings in the system and usually congress takes steps to address them rather than letting things fester for political purposes.

 

[The T]

Why the secrecy? EASY. Cloward and Piven strategy. OVERLOAD THE SYSTEM.

 

[dilloduck]

Cheap labor----not real popular with unions.

 

[The T]

Secrecy is often used when the federal, state and local government is dealing with minors. Juveniles have additional rights to privacy and protection from the glaring eye of the public that adults do not have.

Seems to me they haven't EARNED that right since they BROKE OUR LAWS coming here. And a good chunk of them are NOT children. Privacy my ass.

ASSWIPE

 

[occupied]

Secrecy is often used when the federal, state and local government is dealing with minors. Juveniles have additional rights to privacy and protection from the glaring eye of the public that adults do not have.

Seems to me they haven't EARNED that right since they BROKE OUR LAWS coming here. And a good chunk of them are NOT children. Privacy my ass.

ASSWIPE

I used the word "juveniles" and "minors" in the legal sense because the law sees everyone under 18 as a legal child unless some judge rules otherwise for each individual for a specific reason. Due process is such an irritant for a reactionary such as yourself isn't it?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Secrecy is often used when the federal, state and local government is dealing with minors. Juveniles have additional rights to privacy and protection from the glaring eye of the public that adults do not have.

the public has the right to know what is happening to these children that they are paying for....that doesn't involve harming the childrens 'privacy' in any way...

also in the interest of public safety....we have the right to know what is going on with the contagious diseases that illegals are bringing here......this is putting American lives at risk....

Just as the law demands privacy and non disclosure it appoints people to manage these concerns in a discrete manor. This is how bureaucracy works. Unusual emergencies often expose shortcomings in the system and usually congress takes steps to address them rather than letting things fester for political purposes.

how can Congress take steps to address any shortcomings if the fascist dear leader won't even let them in the detention centers and ask questions.....?

 

[occupied]

the public has the right to know what is happening to these children that they are paying for....that doesn't involve harming the childrens 'privacy' in any way...

also in the interest of public safety....we have the right to know what is going on with the contagious diseases that illegals are bringing here......this is putting American lives at risk....

Just as the law demands privacy and non disclosure it appoints people to manage these concerns in a discrete manor. This is how bureaucracy works. Unusual emergencies often expose shortcomings in the system and usually congress takes steps to address them rather than letting things fester for political purposes.

how can Congress take steps to address any shortcomings if the fascist dear leader won't even let them in the detention centers and ask questions.....?

They can ask all the questions they want they just don't like the answers. They can visit by going through channels and leaving the news cameras outside.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Just as the law demands privacy and non disclosure it appoints people to manage these concerns in a discrete manor. This is how bureaucracy works. Unusual emergencies often expose shortcomings in the system and usually congress takes steps to address them rather than letting things fester for political purposes.

how can Congress take steps to address any shortcomings if the fascist dear leader won't even let them in the detention centers and ask questions.....?

They can ask all the questions they want they just don't like the answers. They can visit by going through channels and leaving the news cameras outside.

such slick answers you have.....but this is an example of what's been really going on....why should a Congressman on the Armed Services Committee have to wait two weeks to get inside a military facility in his own friggin state....?

July 3
What is going on at the military bases Obama is using to temporarily house his largely underage army of illegal alien colonists until they can be disseminated throughout the country along with the exotic diseases they carry? Media access has been curtailed. Doctors and nurses who work in them have been threatened with arrest for talking to the public. A Congressman who is on the Armed Services Committee and therefore has oversight authority over military bases, particularly bases in his own state, attempted to get a look inside. He was rebuffed:

Congressman Jim Bridenstine (OK) was denied access [Tuesday] to the HHS facility at Ft. Sill, Oklahoma currently housing up to 1,200 unaccompanied alien children (UAC) who illegally crossed the southern border into the United States. …

The Health and Human Services (HHS) official who appears to be in charge of the facility told Congressman Bridenstine he could schedule an appointment for July 21. HHS Deputy Director of the Office of Public Affairs, Ken Wolfe, would not take the Congressman’s phone call.

Congressman on Armed Services Committee Not Allowed on Base Housing Illegal Aliens | Right Wing News

any visits that have occurred since have been like pre-planned 'showcase' tours......and no questions allowed to either the staff or the illegals...

 

[boedicca]

Why the secrecy? Because it's yet another Porkfest maneuver to funnel taxpayer dollars to favored political cronies. Obama is planning to spend $78K per minor for room and board.

Considering that the average middle class household's income is around $50K, those illegal alien kids will either be living "onepercenter" lifestyles of a lot of money is going to be siphoned off by cronies.

Well, I was right. Here's more background on the porkfest:

Obama held the meeting in Dallas one day after he asked Congress for $3.7 billion in emergency spending for the crisis along the Texas/Mexico border. Border Patrol has apprehended more than 50,000 unaccompanied minors so far this year, many of them fleeing violence in Central America.

Chris Liebrum, who leads the Baptist General Convention of Texas’ disaster recovery program, characterized the meeting as a genuine roundtable discussion with “quite a bit of back and forth” dialogue, noting Obama called on each person to ask for his or her ideas.

[...] Also attending the meeting was Kevin Dinnin, president of Baptist Child & Family Services, a BGCT-related agency providing care for children housed at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio.

Other participants included Arne Nelson, president of Catholic Charities of Dallas; Gov. Rick Perry; Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Dallas; Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins, who had volunteered the county to house up to 2,000 immigrant children; the mayors of Dallas and nearby Grand Prairie, and county and state officials. (link)

So that’s who President Obama calls “faith leaders“. But there’s a problem, none of them are religion based organizations. None of them have churches. None of them have congregations or parishioners’.

They are the heads of government funded non-profits. Remember ACORN? Same/Same.

They are taxpayer funded corporations who exist almost exclusively on government grants. Despite the words “Baptist” and “Catholic”, these are NOT religious “faith based” groups. The name Baptist and Catholic is only to give the appearance of “religion” and add a dose of “charity” to the appearances.

We recently stumbled upon Mr. Kevin Dinnin when we were looking around for the primary recipients’ of HHS Grants and we came upon the 2012 tax filings of BCFS, or more accurately BCFS EMD where Kevin Dinnin is the principal officer and CEO. Paid at an annual salary of $477,799+

This one group alone makes ACORN seem small ball in comparison.

Two days before this meeting with President Obama, on 7/7/14 Mr. Dinnin was given a grant from Health and Human Services in the amount of $190,707,505....

(snip)

But the most staggering figure is what HHS has spent on Unaccompanied Minor Children (under grant code 93676) since the President’s 2012 Deferred action program began:
$644,188,522.00

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