al Haq
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First you said Palestinians don't exist. Then you claimed they were merely infiltrators from other Arab countries. Now you say they are actually all Jews!
Arabs calling themselves Palestinians is a recent description, when the PLO was formed in 1964.
Historically, Arabs in the Levant identified not by Palestine but by tribes and clans, by religion, by Ottoman nationalism or by smaller districts, known as sanjaks and qadas.
During Ottoman rule, lasting 400 years, the territory of Palestine was governed by Syria and Lebanon, thus, many Arabs in the area called themselves Syrians and Lebanese.
However, Arabs did not call themselves Palestinians.
You have already been given repeated examples of Palestinian Arabs referring to themselves as Palestinians long before 1964, even as early as before World War I.
But as usual, rather than admit what everyone else can easily confirm for themselves, your preferred recourse is to simply ignore any uncomfortable facts that don't fit neatly into your Zio fairy tale.
And even if Palestinians had not used the term until just 2 minutes ago, it still doesn't erase them as a people. There were no Israelis until 1948. But Israelis, just as Palestinians, have the right to call themselves anything they want.
Considering Jews have won 160 Nobel Prizes for their achievements in science, mathematics, economics and the humanities and Muslims have won merely 3 Nobel Prizes, out of 1.5 BILLION Muslims in the world, I suspect Muslims' brains hurt.
So what? Many modern achievements in science, mathematics, medicine, etc. are built on the inventions of the Muslim world.
I am fairly certain these great minds wouldn't agree with the bigoted nonsense with which you spam this forum. Einstein certainly didn't.
Only Jews were known as Palestinians.
BS, as has been shown. You yourself quoted Yehoshua Porath to support one of your arguments, but it seems your attention to what he actually wrote is very selective. Maybe you should brush up on page 17 of "The Emergence of the Palestinian-Arab National Movement 1918–1929," where Porath discusses Palestinian Arabs taking part in the Syrian-Palestinian Congress of 1921.
Even today, Arabs mostly call themselves Muslims, not Palestinians.
Well duh...this is a no-brainer. Most Arabs are not Palestinian.
Professor Bernard Lewis, foremost Middle East historian edifies...
You clearly have not read one word written by Bernard Lewis as he sings the praises of Islam and the Arabs as a great religion and a great people. His numerous books on Islam and Arabs are highly admiring of both.
In fact, Lewis has been criticized for being an Islamic apologist, such as his steadfast refusal to concede that the Turks committed genocide against the Armenians. In fact, Lewis was sued by the French government for his refusal to do so in a French newspaper.
Lewis's fluency in 5 languages, including Arabic, Turkish, Farsi, Hebrew and English makes him unequaled in his field.
So, you really know nothing about Bernard Lewis.
A thorough review of his work and career here:
M. Shahid Alam: Bernard Lewis: Scholarship or Sophistry?
Counterpunch is a discredited internet rag with anti-Semitic leanings, so you, too, are discredited.
Your go-to line is that anybody who endorses the Zionist manifesto is "eminent," and all others are "anti-Semites." The Counterpunch article makes specific points about exactly what is objectionable and offensive about Lewis' writings. If you would like to specifically respond to any of the criticism, please feel free.
BTW Lewis' denial of the Armenian genocide is simply the standard Zionist position - see JINSA's maneuvers to prevent its recognition.
Here are a few remarks about Bernard Lewis, including from prominent Arabs...
More canned spam from your Department of Redundancy Department. I already responded to your list of glowing praises for Lewis on one of the first hundred times you posted it. As I told you then, there are no Arabs on this list ("prominent" or otherwise):
You don’t have to be part of a so-called “conspiracy” to mistake propaganda for scholarship, although plenty of the names on your list are well-known members of the Zio cheerleading squad.
Fouad Ajami is your example of "Arabs" praising Bernard Lewis? LOL.
First of all, although he was born in Lebanon, Fouad Ajami is of Iranian heritage, not Arab. (That other “Muslim-sounding” name on your list is an Iranian Kurd.)
Anyway -- at one time, Ajami was a supporter of Palestinian rights, but he switched over to become a shameless tool for the neocon warmongers, extolled by the likes of Daniel Pipes, Norman Podhoretz, and Paul Wolfowitz.
In fact, Ajami works for Pipes at Middle East Forum -- a neo-con think tank dedicated to promoting Israeli right wing ideology and Islamophobia, pushing for the U.S. to spend its blood and treasure attacking any Muslim country that might potentially rival Israel’s hegemony in the Middle East, and harassing American university professors who have the temerity to conduct Middle East Studies classes without a heavily pro-Israel bias.
And it’s no surprise that Ajami would be lauding Bernard Lewis - that’s his partner over at ASMEA (the Association for the Study of the Middle East and Africa, yet another neo-con think tank.)
In short, anybody can find a string of glowing support for anything, especially from the subject's own circle of ideologues.