The Official Discussion Thread for who is considered indiginous to Palestine?

[Sixties Fan]

You all stopped the Palestinians from returning with guns.

WRONG THREAD !!!!!

 

[surada]

Palestinian Christians went to my church in Arabia in the 1950s.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Palestinian Christians went to my church in Arabia in the 1950s.

Arabs who came from the Mandate for Palestine went to your church in the 1950s. That is different.
They could have stayed in Gaza, Judea or Samaria, taken by Egypt and Jordan.

Arabs choosing to return to their homeland in Arabia. And you make a fuss about it, against Israel, against the Jews.

 

[rylah]

Arabs who came from the Mandate for Palestine went to your church in the 1950s. That is different.
They could have stayed in Gaza, Judea or Samaria, taken by Egypt and Jordan.

Arabs choosing to return to their homeland in Arabia. And you make a fuss about it, against Israel, against the Jews.

That was before the switch to the "Palestinian" brand...
Even today when glorifying Jihad, they still talk about Arab pride.
Nothing to do with any 'Palestinian nation', it's all about Arab imperialism.

 

[Rehmani]

Except the Jews are not the invading and colonizing people. They are an original indigenous population.



The indigenous people are the original population. That includes the Jews.



Philistines?? Really?

The Jews have ancestry back to the Canaanites too. Thus they as well are closest to being indigenous.



The Jews are not invaders. As descendants of the original population they are very much indigenous.



They didn't convert. European Jews are descended from the original Canaanite population.



That is incorrect. European Jews are indigenous to the West Bank area.



That is incorrect. Jewish migrants to Israel are descended from the original indigenous population of the West Bank area.



That is incorrect. The Jews are descended from the original population of the West Bank area, so are very much indigenous.



That is incorrect. The Jews are descended from the original Canaanites.



Perhaps. But they are still descended from the original Canaanites.



History, DNA, and archaeology say that it's not a fact.



Not according to history, archaeology, and DNA.



The Palestinians should learn to share with other indigenous people.

indigenous means those people who don't have past history like Aborigines in australia.
Jews have a past history they came from Iraq like Abrahim PBUH.

 

[rylah]

indigenous means those people who don't have past history like Aborigines in australia.
Jews have a past history they came from Iraq like Abrahim PBUH.

That's an imperialist position
Arab supremacists take by default
against any forms of national liberty.

This way one can claim no one is indigenous,
to anywhere, and minorities don't deserve self
determination, because they "all came from somewhere".

But to protect minorities, indigenous status has a legal definition,
as in essentially distinct civilization tied to a specific land.

Arabs despite maintaining their imperialist control over the M.East.
have yet to become indigenous to either the Levant or Africa.

 

[Open Bolt]

indigenous means those people who don't have past history like Aborigines in australia.

That is incorrect. Indigenous means the people who do have a past history like Aborigines in Australia.

Jews have a past history

Yes.

they came from Iraq

No. They are descended from the original Canaanite population of the West Bank area.

 

[rylah]

 

[sergiobramasole]

Arabs who came from the Mandate for Palestine went to your church in the 1950s. That is different.
They could have stayed in Gaza, Judea or Samaria, taken by Egypt and Jordan.

Arabs choosing to return to their homeland in Arabia. And you make a fuss about it, against Israel, against the Jews.

Israel has been a nation for over three thousand years. As the Merneptah Stele attests to that. The assertion that Muslim Arabs in Judea&Samaria are the indigenous inhabitants isn't supported by history. Indigenous people have native rulers and build settlements. Every town from the river to the sea has Jewish roots. Arab-speaking people are the descendants of settlers and colonists who came from Jazeera, Mesopotamia, Masr, the Balkans and Asia Minor. In fact, no Muslim Aran claims roots therein before Saladin's conquest of Jerusalem. And that great warrior was a Kurd.

 

[Open Bolt]

Israel has been a nation for over three thousand years. As the Merneptah Stele attests to that. The assertion that Muslim Arabs in Judea&Samaria are the indigenous inhabitants isn't supported by history. Indigenous people have native rulers and build settlements. Every town from the river to the sea has Jewish roots. Arab-speaking people are the descendants of settlers and colonists who came from Jazeera, Mesopotamia, Masr, the Balkans and Asia Minor. In fact, no Muslim Aran claims roots therein before Saladin's conquest of Jerusalem. And that great warrior was a Kurd.

DNA shows that the Jews and the Palestinians are both descended from the indigenous Canaanites, although they had already become separate groups by the time of the Iron Age.

The Israelites were not the only Iron Age descendants of the Canaanites. Perhaps the Palestinians are the descendants of the Moabites, Ammonites, or Edomites.

 

[sergiobramasole]

DNA shows that the Jews and the Palestinians are both descended from the indigenous Canaanites, although they had already become separate groups by the time of the Iron Age.

The Israelites were not the only Iron Age descendants of the Canaanites. Perhaps the Palestinians are the descendants of the Moabites, Ammonites, or Edomites.s The Canaanites, like the Philistines

The Canaanites, like the Philistines centuries later, melted within a more predominant Hebrew community, becoming ethnic Jews themselves.
Arabs' DNA pool is extremely diverse; few can claim old Semitic bloodlines. Their ancient monarchies from the Hashemites in Jordan to Bahrain are but not their lower strata from Gaza, Egypt, Sudan, and so on and so forth.

 

[Jay Stone]

DNA shows that the Jews and the Palestinians are both descended from the indigenous Canaanites, although they had already become separate groups by the time of the Iron Age.

The Israelites were not the only Iron Age descendants of the Canaanites. Perhaps the Palestinians are the descendants of the Moabites, Ammonites, or Edomites.

Israelites were Canaanites. Hebrew is a Canaanite language. Arabic is not a Canaanite language. Fakestinians are recently invented Arabs and non-Arab Muslims such as Bosnians with no link to Canaanites. Jews in fact are the only living link to Canaanite. This is why Canaanites are recorded in the Jewish Bible but not in Arabs’ Koran.

 

[Jay Stone]

That is incorrect. Indigenous means the people who do have a past history like Aborigines in Australia.



Yes.



No. They are descended from the original Canaanite population of the West Bank area.

Original Canaanites were destroyed in the late Bronze Age. Israelites later emerged.

 

[surada]

Israelites were Canaanites. Hebrew is a Canaanite language. Arabic is not a Canaanite language. Fakestinians are recently invented Arabs and non-Arab Muslims such as Bosnians with no link to Canaanites. Jews in fact are the only living link to Canaanite. This is why Canaanites are recorded in the Jewish Bible but not in Arabs’ Koran.

The Jews had been expelled from Palestine 500 years before Islam. Most Palestinians are descended from Jewish farmers who didn't leave.. of course they intermarried with Syrians, Lebanese, Greeks, Romans, Turks and crusaders.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Jews had been expelled from Palestine 500 years before Islam. Most Palestinians are descended from Jewish farmers who didn't leave.. of course they intermarried with Syrians, Lebanese, Greeks, Romans, Turks and crusaders.

Never mind answering Surada. She rewrites history all the time.

Suggestion to Jay:

Stick to newer posts in threads which are actually active with recent posts. Otherwise one is only repeating the same things over and over again. Welcome.

 

[Jay Stone]

The Jews had been expelled from Palestine 500 years before Islam. Most Palestinians are descended from Jewish farmers who didn't leave.. of course they intermarried with Syrians, Lebanese, Greeks, Romans, Turks and crusaders.

There was no place called palestine. Jews were never expelled. If Fakestinians had a legitimate history, you wouldn’t need to make up stupid shit like they’re really Jews.

 

[surada]

There was no place called palestine. Jews were never expelled. If Fakestinians had a legitimate history, you wouldn’t need to make up stupid shit like they’re really Jews.

Palestinians were descended from Jews according to Ben Gurion and Shlomo Sands. and a whole lot of DNA studies. There were very few Jews in Palestine from 70 AD to the 1920s.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Palestinians were descended from Jews according to Ben Gurion and Shlomo Sands. and a whole lot of DNA studies. There were very few Jews in Palestine from 70 AD to the 1920s.

That is a lie. There is no such DNA study. You would not be able to come up with the people who took part in those "studies" if your life depended on you.

And it continues to be odd that the Muslims, Kurds or Arabs, met with no such Palestinians when they invaded in the 7th Century. They met the indigenous Jews, and only the Indigenous Jews as written in Islamic sources.

Who exactly are you trying to influence with your lies? Any success so far?

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

The diaspora of Jews was real enough. There were expulsions, persecution by occupiers and voluntary emigration. Some of the Jewish rebellions were themselves absurd and self-destructive. Surada may not be strictly accurate, but it is certain that many Jews remained in the area for centuries, intermarried, lost their “Jewishness,” converted, etc. The Palestinians of today can speak Arabic, be Muslim or Christian, yet they are in many respects just as “Semitic” as Jewish returnees to Israel.

You are evidentially determined to deny any historical connection between these two peoples, who share a single land, many “racial” features and ancient customs, and a tragic history of conflict in a “Holy Land” of broken stones and religious obsessions.

 

[Jay Stone]

Palestinians were descended from Jews according to Ben Gurion and Shlomo Sands. and a whole lot of DNA studies. There were very few Jews in Palestine from 70 AD to the 1920s.

Shlomo Sand taught French cinema! LOL!