The Problem with Socialism

[Fenton Lum]

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

Actually you're working very hard to avoid it.

The only problem with socialism as it applies to the american economic system is that we don't want those little people to get the idea that they should get in on it too.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profits versus externalized risk and expense for the “job creator” class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez faire capitalism for the masses

This is the current american paradigm.

 

[Jack4jill]

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

You need to learn capitalism, good and bad.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

You need to learn capitalism, good and bad.

Never going to happen, he approaches this like a religion.

 

[Iceweasel]

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

Actually you're working very hard to avoid it.

The only problem with socialism as it applies to the american economic system is that we don't want those little people to get the idea that they should get in on it too.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profits versus externalized risk and expense for the “job creator” class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez faire capitalism for the masses

This is the current american paradigm.

Smearing and insults is all you have, like I said. Anyone with a backbone can make it in this country. If you can't make it here you can't make it anywhere. Don't blame capitalism for your failures.

 

[Iceweasel]

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

You need to learn capitalism, good and bad.

Never going to happen, he approaches this like a religion.

See above.

 

[FA_Q2]

The problem is never in history has it ever worked and for some reason idiots keep trying it

What would you consider Europe?

 

[Iceweasel]

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

You need to learn capitalism, good and bad.

You need to quit being an idiot. Public ed has brainwashed the kids these days into thinking capitalism is something evil so you can live your puny lives and leech off of others.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The problem is never in history has it ever worked and for some reason idiots keep trying it

What would you consider Europe?

Going down the shitter...have you been paying attention to Greece, Spain, etc? Socialism starts out great...then the inevitable happens...they run out of other people's money. Same song, same verse every time

 

[Dale Smith]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

You haven't seen real capitalism in your lifetime...nor your parents. You haven't the slightest clue of what actual system we are under and have been for 102 plus years...but you are gonna learn the hard way.....you can bank on that.

 

[Jack4jill]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

You haven't seen real capitalism in your lifetime...nor your parents. You haven't the slightest clue of what actual system we are under and have been for 102 plus years...but you are gonna learn the hard way.....you can bank on that.

The paranoia of people like you is not our actual system.

 

[Jack4jill]

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

You need to learn capitalism, good and bad.

You need to quit being an idiot. Public ed has brainwashed the kids these days into thinking capitalism is something evil so you can live your puny lives and leech off of others.

What they are taught is that those who believe capitalism is the answer to everything, don't know capitalism at all.

 

[Jack4jill]

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

You need to learn capitalism, good and bad.

Never going to happen, he approaches this like a religion.

Apparently.

Capitalism is good, until that is it isn't.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The problem is when socialism or capitalism gets to its extremes. Socialism as been around for about 10,000 years and it is simply the working together of society. Of course, you probably hate your police officer down the road or tax payer paved streets.

Capitalism also has a nasty history...So we abolish and do away with it?

 

[Dale Smith]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

You haven't seen real capitalism in your lifetime...nor your parents. You haven't the slightest clue of what actual system we are under and have been for 102 plus years...but you are gonna learn the hard way.....you can bank on that.

The paranoia of people like you is not our actual system.

It's not paranoia...it's a fucking fact and if you had any intellectual curiosity? You would look into the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of 1933, gold confiscation and then the IMF taking USA.INC into receivership to provide the alleged "19 essential gubermint services" that they do as a part of a "for profit" venture....it is a fact.

Go back to sleep, lil fella.......the language and terms I use taxes your lack of intellect and why you are not able to grasp the very concepts of which I speak......tis a pity....

 

[SassyIrishLass]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

You haven't seen real capitalism in your lifetime...nor your parents. You haven't the slightest clue of what actual system we are under and have been for 102 plus years...but you are gonna learn the hard way.....you can bank on that.

The paranoia of people like you is not our actual system.

It's not paranoia...it's a fucking fact and if you had any intellectual curiosity? You would look into the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of 1933, gold confiscation and then the IMF taking USA.INC into receivership to provide the alleged "19 essential gubermint services" that they do as a part of a "for profit" venture....it is a fact.

Go back to sleep, lil fella.......the language and terms I use taxes your lack of intellect and why you are not able to grasp the very concepts of which I speak......tis a pity....

Socialism vs. capitalism: Which is the moral system?

 

[Jack4jill]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

You haven't seen real capitalism in your lifetime...nor your parents. You haven't the slightest clue of what actual system we are under and have been for 102 plus years...but you are gonna learn the hard way.....you can bank on that.

The paranoia of people like you is not our actual system.

It's not paranoia...it's a fucking fact and if you had any intellectual curiosity? You would look into the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of 1933, gold confiscation and then the IMF taking USA.INC into receivership to provide the alleged "19 essential gubermint services" that they do as a part of a "for profit" venture....it is a fact.

Go back to sleep, lil fella.......the language and terms I use taxes your lack of intellect and why you are not able to grasp the very concepts of which I speak......tis a pity....

I've read up on your version of crazy. Insanity, for the insane. Paranoia for the paranoid. Nothing you've said about it, including the birth certificates, has been anything like true.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Capitalism has a long history of treating the poor like shit, promoting slavery and fucking up the environment. Two can play at this game.

 

[Jack4jill]

Capitalism has a long history of treating the poor like shit, promoting slavery and fucking up the environment. Two can play at this game.

Sometimes that's on its good days.

 

[Fenton Lum]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

You haven't seen real capitalism in your lifetime...nor your parents. You haven't the slightest clue of what actual system we are under and have been for 102 plus years...but you are gonna learn the hard way.....you can bank on that.

The paranoia of people like you is not our actual system.

It's not paranoia...it's a fucking fact and if you had any intellectual curiosity? You would look into the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of 1933, gold confiscation and then the IMF taking USA.INC into receivership to provide the alleged "19 essential gubermint services" that they do as a part of a "for profit" venture....it is a fact.

Go back to sleep, lil fella.......the language and terms I use taxes your lack of intellect and why you are not able to grasp the very concepts of which I speak......tis a pity....

Socialism vs. capitalism: Which is the moral system?

Poor thing. All she's got to come with is a googleoff.

 

[Fenton Lum]

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

Actually you're working very hard to avoid it.

The only problem with socialism as it applies to the american economic system is that we don't want those little people to get the idea that they should get in on it too.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profits versus externalized risk and expense for the “job creator” class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez faire capitalism for the masses

This is the current american paradigm.

Smearing and insults is all you have, like I said. Anyone with a backbone can make it in this country. If you can't make it here you can't make it anywhere. Don't blame capitalism for your failures.

I'm doing well, thanks for the concern; I’m referring more to the cannibalization of American society at large. Until we evolve away from what you advocate we will continue to borrow to maintain a level of empire and consumption this society can no longer afford, wages will continue to fall for the workers the “job creators” exploit, poverty will continue to spread, permanent war of empire will continue unabated, privatized prison system mass incarceration will continue and spread in our post industrial society, human beings will continue to be commoditized regardless of “which” political party wins, and the public will continue to get 90% of what they see and hear (and believe in when it comes to people like you) from a half dozen corporations spewing a false perceptual reality while judicial fiat continues to be leveraged to strip citizens of basic constitutional rights. The system will do to us whatever we allow and all we would have to do is stop participating and cooperating.


The more the unsubstantial people get squeezed, the more they have to focus on gettng by the daily grind. The republican party went batshit crazy over my lifetime and the democratic party morphed into the republican party I grew up with and a lot of that happened in my opinion during the previous Clinton's administration. All the democratic party has to do is act as if they're a bit "left" of the republican party, which brings us back to the lesser of the two evils, and that's for the most part on social issues. It's all pretty bipartisan when it comes to corporate societal wealth extraction.


On Bill Clinton' watch; the FCC was deregulated, mass incarceration shot way up and Hilary made some snide reference to black kids caught up in the system as super predators, various global trade agreements, and the welfare reform biz at a time when 70% of the recipients were children.


Over half of all discretionary spending goes to the military and we continue to be the biggest military arms dealers on the planet. Often they get turned back on us, but hey, it's good for business. We can't even really figure out exactly what we spend on empire, a lot of it gets hidden.


If one looks at the rest of the developed industrial countries on the planet, the vast majority of them invest back into society regarding healthcare and education. All this talk of being globally competitive, requires an educated population. Expanding public education for the masses to include a college education keeps us competitive - it's an investment in society. Instead we've turned it into a for profit industry and turn kids whose parents can't pay for college into debt peons.


And how exactly does leaving worker healthcare on the backs of American employers (for however much longer that lasts, they're wiggling more and more out of that) make those employers competitive with employers in nations with single payer healthcare programs that have better healthcare outcomes at less cost?


For the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, also the system in which costs are climbing most aggressively on the planet, we enjoy these WHO ratings; 39th in infant mortality, 43rd in adult female mortality, 42nd in adult male mortality, 46th in life expectancy.