Tired of feeding trolls.You whine.....as you run away.
You are one of the worst.
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Tired of feeding trolls.You whine.....as you run away.
Dude, what difference does it make to a business if they have to pay a sales tax or not? They simply add the tax to the final bill, and it never goes into their budget. How much incentive is it for a locality to NOT make them put an extra line item on the bill? And, when was the last time you bought something that did not include sales tax? Source (not behind a paywall) where a locality offered cuts in the sales tax as incentive for a company to move it.It isn't keeping more of what they earn, moron.
They didn't EARN the sales tax they are charging, which they don't have to pay for 10,15 or 20 years.
And the state and local governments are trying to bring in more business, which in turn will bring in more tax revenue, which in turn will allow them to pay themselves more. See how that works? Seriously, you have a bigger problem with the governments than you do with the businesses, who just go where they are the most welcome.They didn't EARN the government infrastructure, built by local and state governments.
Only if they refuse to cut spending temporarily until the revenue surges after the business gets in place.Yes, the taxes, some ELSE PAYS.
Which do not belong to the government in the first place. If they hold and use my money for a year, they should pay me interest when they return it to me.WOW.
Sure.............an overpayment.
BOTH are TAX $$$.
Especially police unionsUnions are a cancer to the economy.
Everyone ELSE does.Dude, what difference does it make to a business if they have to pay a sales tax or not?
WHAT bill?They simply add the tax to the final bill, and it never goes into their budget.
Exactly.How much incentive is it for a locality to NOT make them put an extra line item on the bill? And, when was the last time you bought something that did not include sales tax?
Source (not behind a paywall) where a locality offered cuts in the sales tax as incentive for a company to move it.
Both.And the state and local governments are trying to bring in more business, which in turn will bring in more tax revenue, which in turn will allow them to pay themselves more. See how that works? Seriously, you have a bigger problem with the governments than you do with the businesses, who just go where they are the most welcome.
That would work for startups, not established businesses like Amazon, Lowes, HD or Macy's.Only if they refuse to cut spending temporarily until the revenue surges after the business gets in place.
Which do not belong to the government in the first place. If they hold and use my money for a year, they should pay me interest when they return it to me.
The only way that works is if they could charge for the sales tax and then not have to pay it, or just not charge it on the bill. I have yet to see that happen, so most likely they're allowed to collect it and not pay it.Everyone ELSE does.
Your complaint then is with government that allows them to keep what they charge, i.e. earn.WHAT bill?
The one they MIGHT have to pay in 20 years.
The rest of the business community is not ready to move into a new area, so they don't get special breaks for going through the disruption such a move causes. If they broadcast that they are ready to do something that attracts the attention of a state or locality, they can set up a bidding war between areas seeking for their business. Is that a problem?Exactly.
So why aren't certain companies?
The rest of the business community has to.
I read that article, and there were no details about what the incentive actually entails, just a mention that it was a sales tax incentive.Here is one, there are many others.
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Aug 21, 2023 — The Tucson City Council is set to provide a $2.6 million sales tax incentive to a new Home Depot set for construction on Old Vail Road and ...
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To whit: The Tucson City Council is set this week to provide $4 million in incentives to a pair of 100,000-square-footers.
Home Depot would get a $2.6 million sales tax incentive to build a home and garden center at Old Vail Road and South Houghton Road. According to an economic analysis done by Tucson-based Applied Economics, the store would hire 110 workers and have a payroll of $5.9 million.
According to the city-sponsored study, the project will generate $19.3 million in "total annual output," and $8.4 million in sales tax revenues. To get the total output, economists apply a multiplier effect that considers the additional economic activity a business will spin off and that efficacy is a whole 'nother column.
Tucson already has multiple Home Depots, including one on North Pantano Road and East Broadway (just a couple miles down from another Home Depot) not prohibitively far from the new location.
It's not like the company is blacklisting Tucson, absent a $2.6 million sales tax incentive.
Again, sounds like your complaint is with governments trying to bring new business into their areas to generate more revenue and better jobs for their constituents. Would you rather they NOT have those tools in their toolboxes and just begged "pretty please" for businesses to come?Both.
Amazon and the cities offering $$$ to relocate was one of the biggest.
That would work for startups, not established businesses like Amazon, Lowes, HD or Macy's.
They EARNED sales taxes?The only way that works is if they could charge for the sales tax and then not have to pay it, or just not charge it on the bill. I have yet to see that happen, so most likely they're allowed to collect it and not pay it.
Your complaint then is with government that allows them to keep what they charge, i.e. earn.
Yes, paying companies with taxpayer $$$?The rest of the business community is not ready to move into a new area, so they don't get special breaks for going through the disruption such a move causes. If they broadcast that they are ready to do something that attracts the attention of a state or locality, they can set up a bidding war between areas seeking for their business. Is that a problem?
Them NOT paying sales tax to the state/local government.I read that article, and there were no details about what the incentive actually entails, just a mention that it was a sales tax incentive.
At the expense of their constituents, for years.Again, sounds like your complaint is with governments trying to bring new business into their areas to generate more revenue and better jobs for their constituents.
That's the way it used to be.Would you rather they NOT have those tools in their toolboxes and just begged "pretty please" for businesses to come?
Finally, you admit government doesn't have its own money, but has to first confiscate it from taxpayers. And again, they're not giving money, they're just allowing them to not pay as much.They EARNED sales taxes?
Yes, paying companies with taxpayer $$$?
Localities compete with each other for business. That's a good thing.Them NOT paying sales tax to the state/local government.
At the expense of their constituents, for years.
That's the way it used to be.
Companies didn't have to be bribed to expand.
Especially, well established multi-billion $$$ companies.
BS.Finally, you admit government doesn't have its own money, but has to first confiscate it from taxpayers. And again, they're not giving money, they're just allowing them to not pay as much.
Yeah, but one company worth billions already, shouldn't be getting handouts from others.Localities compete with each other for business. That's a good thing.
You're contradicting yourself. On the one hand, you complain that the taxpayers' money is getting handed out, while on the other, you claim government owns all the money. Which is it?BS.
WHO prints it?
They all the $$$, they want.
They do if a locality wants them to do business in one place over another. I don't think you like government being in competition, even with itself. Would you prefer government simply dictate where business should take place?Yeah, but one company worth billions already, shouldn't be getting handouts from others.
Tired of feeding trolls.
You are one of the worst.
No, I'm not.You're contradicting yourself. On the one hand, you complain that the taxpayers' money is getting handed out, while on the other, you claim government owns all the money. Which is it?
The $$$ you loan the government, is their $$$.I'll help you. If government already owns all the money, why can I loan the government money and have them pay me back with interest? That's called buying bonds, in case you were unclear.
They already do, with bribing companies to build or relocate.They do if a locality wants them to do business in one place over another. I don't think you like government being in competition, even with itself. Would you prefer government simply dictate where business should take place?
That's because we're not a democracy where the people vote on how we spend our money. We hire representatives to do that for us and hope they'll do a good job. Obviously, they're not doing a really good job, so we need to hire more representatives that are willing to keep the government's budget in line with reality.No, I'm not.
The government charges IT'S debt to us.
If the $$$ was truly OURS, we would have a say on how OUR $$$ is spent.
Just like YOU decide what to buy at the grocery store.
We don't.
It's only theirs to use until the bond matures, then they have to pay it back to me with the interest they promised. If I don't loan it to them, i.e. buy the bond, it's not their money at all.The $$$ you loan the government, is their $$$.
Which is why it's a risk to buy bonds. Of course, the government hasn't yet defaulted on its debt obligation, so their record is pretty good. That doesn't mean it won't happen. But, and here's the critical point, if I don't buy the bond, I don't lend them the money, it's mine.If they wanted that bond you bought to be worthless, it would be.
That's not dictating. If a company decides it's not in their strategic interest to put a warehouse or assembly line in a certain location, they won't do it, even if the local government offers them a tax incentive. We still have a somewhat free country where government has limited ability to dictate where business takes place, somewhat.They already do, with bribing companies to build or relocate.
All taxes go to the public. The public pays all taxes. Every tax you charge to anyone, ends up being paid by the public. All of them. Every single one.It isn't keeping more of what they earn, moron.
They didn't EARN the sales tax they are charging, which they don't have to pay for 10,15 or 20 years.
They didn't EARN the government infrastructure, built by local and state governments.
Yes, the taxes, some ELSE PAYS.
WOW.
Sure.............an overpayment.
BOTH are TAX $$$.
Total whining from a right winger that HATES to see America win if Joe Biden is in office. Well from the rest of us who actually want to see America succeed, screw you.
The data shows that people are better off. What you are learning, is that the middle class and poor have been struggling for over a century but you didnt care. You just said they were lazy or any attempt to address their struggle was socialism, marxism, communism or some other ism. The FACT IS that you do not support a SINGLE policy that helps the middle class and especially the poor. Your crocodile tears dont impress me you fake ass.
perhaps thew truest post ever on this board. they need to hear this.
YES, it is.All taxes go to the public. The public pays all taxes. Every tax you charge to anyone, ends up being paid by the public. All of them. Every single one.
A tax cut, is not a subsidy.
A tax cut is someone keeping more of the money they rightfully earned.
The very same thing with oil companies.If I beat you over the head, stole your wallet, and on the way out tossed a $20 of your own money back at you, you would not conclude I was "subsidizing you", because I let you keep $20 of your own money that you earned.
Another way of putting it, if you earned nothing, would you still get the subsidy? If the answer is no, then you are not being subsidized. The only way to get a tax cut, is to work and earn money, and have the government let you keep the money you earned.
A subsidy, is money you get when you do not earn it. Wind farms get money from the Federal Government. If they produce ZERO, they still get the subsidy.