There are more than two genders

[john54]

Millions of people have been born with male and female parts. If someone was born with a penis and ovaries that person is biologically neither male nor female...or is both. For all the naysayers who say there are only 2 what would you call someone who looks like a guy, has a vagina, testicles, and no ovaries. Many of these people exist. Scientifically speaking they do not fit into either gender. Where is all the confusion on this coming from? It seems more confusing to try to fit someone like that into either gender. I don't get the confusion, really. I'm confused as to why people are confused.

 

[The Irish Ram]

You are talking about a medical anomaly. Not the gender bending bullshit that our teachers are pulling on our children.
Parents, this is your fault. Take your children back...

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Anomaly.

And they are so rare that your argument is pointless and disingenuous.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Millions of people have been born with male and female parts. If someone was born with a penis and ovaries that person is biologically neither male nor female...or is both. For all the naysayers who say there are only 2 what would you call someone who looks like a guy, has a vagina, testicles, and no ovaries. Many of these people exist. Scientifically speaking they do not fit into either gender. Where is all the confusion on this coming from? It seems more confusing to try to fit someone like that into either gender. I don't get the confusion, really. I'm confused as to why people are confused.

Wrong

 

[ReinyDays]

Millions of people have been born with male and female parts. If someone was born with a penis and ovaries that person is biologically neither male nor female. For all the naysayers who say there are only 2 what would you call someone who looks like a guy, has a vagina, testicles, and no ovaries. Many of these people exist. Scientifically speaking they do not fit into either gender. Where is all the confusion on this coming from? It seems more confusing to try to fit someone like that into either gender. I don't get it, really.

The confusion is yours ... we have biological sex ... within mammals, there are two sexes, male and female ... no, we're not including rare DNA disorders, those are mutations and are generally destroyed soon after birth (except for humans of course) ...

We also have linguistic gender ... of which there are three in the Western European languages ... masculine, feminine and neuter ... the only remnant of this in English is in the personal pronouns ... he, she, it ... otherwise, gender is absent from English speaking populations ... German retains the gender of all nouns, not just the pronouns ... and it's best to learn the nouns along with the definite article that describes the word's gender ... der, die und das ...

Words have gender, people have sex ... where do you think babies come from? ...

 

[john54]

The confusion is yours ... we have biological sex ... within mammals, there are two sexes, male and female ... no, we're not including rare DNA disorders, those are mutations and are generally destroyed soon after birth (except for humans of course) ...

We also have linguistic gender ... of which there are three in the Western European languages ... masculine, feminine and neuter ... the only remnant of this in English is in the personal pronouns ... he, she, it ... otherwise, gender is absent from English speaking populations ... German retains the gender of all nouns, not just the pronouns ... and it's best to learn the nouns along with the definite article that describes the word's gender ... der, die und das ...

Words have gender, people have sex ... where do you think babies come from? ...

It's a lot more common than people think though. If we just stick with the anatomy you're born with and leave everything else to the side, we're still left with an estimated 1.7% of the population born with mixed male and female anatomy. It's true that mixed -genitalia- is rarer, about 1 in 1,000, but it's much more common to have male and female internal organs, as well as hormones that don't match the anatomy - again about 1.7%. That's leaving aside all "identities" and psychologies and just sticking with the physical traits they're born with. That's tens of millions of people worldwide, and who is to decide whether to remove the penis and keep the ovaries or remove the ovaries and keep the penis? I mean truly, leaving all politics aside what would you do as a doctor in that situation? It doesn't seem obvious at all.

Tens of millions of people born with ambiguous anatomy is more than enough to warrant there being more than one gender. That is a lot of people.

 

[ReinyDays]

It's a lot more common than people think though. If we just stick with the anatomy you're born with and leave everything else to the side, we're still left with an estimated 1.7% of the population having mixed male and female anatomy. It's true that mixed -genitalia- is rarer, about 1 in 1,000, but it's much more common to have male and female internal organs, as well as hormones that don't match the anatomy - again about 1.7%. That's leaving aside all "identities" and psychologies and just sticking with the physical traits they're born with. That's tens of millions of people worldwide, and who is to decide whether to remove the penis and keep the ovaries or remove the ovaries and keep the penis? I mean truly, leaving all politics aside what would you do as a doctor in that situation? It doesn't seem obvious at all.

Tens of millions of people born with ambiguous anatomy is more than enough to warrant there being more than one gender. That is a lot of people.

You've misread Wikipedia ... they state only 1.7% of all sex disorder differentiations is true hermaphroditism ... only 500 cases are known, not millions ...

You want "one size fits all" for these extremely rare cases ... how about we let the doctor and victim decide ...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Millions of people have been born with male and female parts. If someone was born with a penis and ovaries that person is biologically neither male nor female...or is both. For all the naysayers who say there are only 2 what would you call someone who looks like a guy, has a vagina, testicles, and no ovaries. Many of these people exist. Scientifically speaking they do not fit into either gender. Where is all the confusion on this coming from? It seems more confusing to try to fit someone like that into either gender. I don't get the confusion, really. I'm confused as to why people are confused.

You’re a moron who can’t read stats.

 

[TNHarley]

LOL its always humorous when people try to compare physical deformities to mental ones.

 

[john54]

The Wikipedia article on intersex lists 1.7% of the general human population, not of sex disorder differentiation, as having "non-dimorphic sexual development." This would be 136,000,000 people globally.

If we're only accounting for ambiguous genitalia at birth, it's put at between .022%-.05% which is 22,000,000-40,000,000 but that's not including mixed internal organs and chromosomal anomalies. Either way that's a significant number of people and it's not clear what to "destroy" at birth in these cases.

Ignore the identities and sex operations for a second, just including birth anatomy even the lowest counts have this at a lot of people. So more than two genders.

 

[Sunni Man]

 

[john54]

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Mysterious Iron Age Burial May Hold Remains of Elite Nonbinary Person

The Finnish grave's occupant likely had Klinefelter syndrome, meaning they were born with an extra copy of the X chromosome

www.smithsonianmag.com

This 900 year old warrior's remains indicate the person, a medieval warrior, had an xxy chromosomal variation (klinefelter's syndrome) and would have had the same traits xxy people have today (breasts and a penis, female hormones).

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It's a lot more common than people think though. If we just stick with the anatomy you're born with and leave everything else to the side, we're still left with an estimated 1.7% of the population born with mixed male and female anatomy. It's true that mixed -genitalia- is rarer, about 1 in 1,000, but it's much more common to have male and female internal organs, as well as hormones that don't match the anatomy - again about 1.7%. That's leaving aside all "identities" and psychologies and just sticking with the physical traits they're born with. That's tens of millions of people worldwide, and who is to decide whether to remove the penis and keep the ovaries or remove the ovaries and keep the penis? I mean truly, leaving all politics aside what would you do as a doctor in that situation? It doesn't seem obvious at all.

Tens of millions of people born with ambiguous anatomy is more than enough to warrant there being more than one gender. That is a lot of people.

Time to start proving your shit.

 

[basquebromance]

Guitarist Says She ‘Probably’ Didn’t Get Ozzy Osbourne Audition Because She’s a Woman

She's a former guitarist for Michael Jackson and Jeff Beck.

loudwire.com

 

[Lastamender]

It's a lot more common than people think though. If we just stick with the anatomy you're born with and leave everything else to the side, we're still left with an estimated 1.7% of the population born with mixed male and female anatomy. It's true that mixed -genitalia- is rarer, about 1 in 1,000, but it's much more common to have male and female internal organs, as well as hormones that don't match the anatomy - again about 1.7%. That's leaving aside all "identities" and psychologies and just sticking with the physical traits they're born with. That's tens of millions of people worldwide, and who is to decide whether to remove the penis and keep the ovaries or remove the ovaries and keep the penis? I mean truly, leaving all politics aside what would you do as a doctor in that situation? It doesn't seem obvious at all.

Tens of millions of people born with ambiguous anatomy is more than enough to warrant there being more than one gender. That is a lot of people.

Why don't you prove that number?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The Wikipedia article on intersex lists 1.7% of the general human population, not of sex disorder differentiation, as having "non-dimorphic sexual development." This would be 136,000,000 people globally.

If we're only accounting for ambiguous genitalia at birth, it's put at between .022%-.05% which is 22,000,000-40,000,000 but that's not including mixed internal organs and chromosomal anomalies. Either way that's a significant number of people and it's not clear what to "destroy" at birth in these cases.

Ignore the identities and sex operations for a second, just including birth anatomy even the lowest counts have this at a lot of people. So more than two genders.

wikipedia.























An acquaintance of mine who is of a conservative right persuasion attempted to edit the wikipedia entry ABOUT HER, and was told that she could not, since she was not an expert on the subject!

 

[JoeMoma]

We also have linguistic gender ... of which there are three in the Western European languages ... masculine, feminine and neuter ... the only remnant of this in English is in the personal pronouns ... he, she, it ... otherwise, gender is absent from English speaking populations ... German retains the gender of all nouns, not just the pronouns ... and it's best to learn the nouns along with the definite article that describes the word's gender ... der, die und das ...

I no linguistic expert, but up until recently, the gender of words that refer to humans or animals were feminine if referring someone of the female sex and masculine if referring to someone of the male sex. It was really that simple and should be that simple today. If everyone starts creating their own gender based on how they "feel" then gender simply becomes a point of confusion. This can be quite destructive to minors that resort to mutilating their healthy bodies (with the help of so called medical professionals) to conform to their confused sense of "gender".

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Millions of people have been born with male and female parts. If someone was born with a penis and ovaries that person is biologically neither male nor female...or is both. For all the naysayers who say there are only 2 what would you call someone who looks like a guy, has a vagina, testicles, and no ovaries. Many of these people exist. Scientifically speaking they do not fit into either gender. Where is all the confusion on this coming from? It seems more confusing to try to fit someone like that into either gender. I don't get the confusion, really. I'm confused as to why people are confused.

No, there is less than one gender. Gender isn’t a thing at all.

There are two sexes (and some rare chromosomal anomalies).

No one is “non-binary” because that is bullshit.

 

[Thunk]

If someone was born with a penis and ovaries

That happens to less than 1 in a million.

That would make a MAXIMUM of 340 in the entire USA.

 

[Thunk]

There are 3 genders...

- Male
- Female
- Delusional