They are all our children. Not!

is english your first language???
yes, and i acknowledge your threat as what it is intended PH
what about the laws restricting children from adult sexual content like drag shows and pride parades?? are you for or against them??
99.9% opposed , the .01% are pandered to , panting the 99.9% bigots if they object....
what about a teacher giving gender afirming care and keeping it from the parents??

defines as >>>>


What are the different types of gender-affirming care?


Gender affirmation can include various procedures such as hormone therapy, genital reconstruction, breast reconstruction, facial plastic surgery, speech therapy, urologic and psychiatric services and primary care.

I know a LOT of leftists who agree with us on the points in this thread. But they won't say that publicly or post an argument for why the things we oppose are bad on any public forum.
I think you'll find the tide is turning Fox.....
. I would support making any surgical procedures for transgender purposes illegal under 18.
Most sane countries are following suit
Anything else is up to the parents and if it is medical it is between parents, child and doctor based on the best available medical guidelines for treatment, NOT the state, NOT you!
the crux of the issue......
What is “gender affirming care”?
viewed by the med community , or the gay community differently
Is that okay to you?
no....
WTF is wrong with you?
a lot.....
Have any of our libtards ever heard of a concept known as “custodial interference?”
they've legalized it in my state , and it's infiltrated our schools

the exodus of sane teachers and administrators began shortly after

school choice is looming on the horizon

the level of anger and resentment is palpable throughout all political stripe

Even the sane gays realize they've shot themselves in the foot

~S~
 
No. I’m pretty clear on where I stand and you play fast and loose with facts.

Fact: surgery on genitals for transgender purposes is not medically recommended under 18. That is reasonable. At 18 they can get married, have kids, join the army, buy a gun. I would support making any surgical procedures for transgender purposes illegal under 18. No problem. Just like I support making conversion therapy illegal.

Anything else is up to the parents and if it is medical it is between parents, child and doctor based on the best available medical guidelines for treatment, NOT the state, NOT you!

Beyond that, if a parent wants their kid to see a drag show, it is up to them. If they don’t want their kid to see a drag show, it is up to them. Drag performances do not belong inside schools, but if a local business hosts an age appropriate Drag Queen Brunch as an open public event, then I’m fine with that too. It is up to each parent to go or not go. Not you.





You sure seem to be.



Link?



Your opinion is unproofed dough.
and you were saying??

 
fact,, children under 13 are having genitals removed
That's a bald face lie, proving the Neo-GOP is no doubt using these lies about young children and Democrats politically'

"This isn't the first time DeSantis suggested that "young kids" in the U.S. receive transition-related surgeries. DeSantis criticized these procedures in an Aug. 3 conference:

"They want to castrate these young boys, that's wrong. We stood up and said, from the health and children's well-being perspective, you don't disfigure 10, 12, 13-year-old kids based on gender dysphoria."

We found no examples of doctors "literally chopping off the private parts of young kids," as DeSantis said.

"That is not true under any existing medical guidelines," said Dr. Jack Turban, assistant professor of child and adolescent psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco. "No medical or surgical interventions are considered for prepubertal children."


But the country is on to you guys and your anti-American lies.
 
That's a bald face lie, proving the Neo-GOP is no doubt using these lies about young children and Democrats politically'

"This isn't the first time DeSantis suggested that "young kids" in the U.S. receive transition-related surgeries. DeSantis criticized these procedures in an Aug. 3 conference:

"They want to castrate these young boys, that's wrong. We stood up and said, from the health and children's well-being perspective, you don't disfigure 10, 12, 13-year-old kids based on gender dysphoria."

We found no examples of doctors "literally chopping off the private parts of young kids," as DeSantis said.

"That is not true under any existing medical guidelines," said Dr. Jack Turban, assistant professor of child and adolescent psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco. "No medical or surgical interventions are considered for prepubertal children."


But the country is on to you guys and your anti-American lies.
 
Admitting too and doubling downing on the lie? The quote I posted came from your article about that children's hospital. UCFS.

"they don’t offer “gender-affirming medical treatments” before a patient reaches puberty"

From your Hospital's web site.


"The CAGC accepts new patients ages 3 to 17. Before the onset of puberty, our care focuses strictly on social and emotional development, and we don’t offer gender-affirming medical treatments. Once a patient reaches puberty, gender-affirming medical treatments may be considered following a thorough mental health assessment by a gender specialist.

Our program is housed within the UCSF Division of Pediatric Endocrinology, enabling us to offer the most advanced medical care. If appropriate, and only in adolescents who have begun puberty, treatment may include gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonists (puberty blockers), medications that can safely suppress pubertal changes by blocking production of the principal sex hormones, estrogen and testosterone.

This fully reversible treatment gives young people time to achieve greater awareness of their gender identity without going through irreversible physical changes that may not align with their gender identity.
 
I like Mrs Desantis!!!

Casey DeSantis shines in first solo campaign appearance, touting Ron's war against woke during Iowa stop and warning the claws will come out​


Casey DeSantis warns that her ‘claws come out’ when government goes after ‘our children’​

 
Why the fuck do you think CHILDREN should be exposed to a sex fetish?

WTF is wrong with you?
Come on Coyote isn't supporting or condoning truly unacceptable content and she has made that quite clear. So allow her credit for where credit is due.

But neither will she condemn the left pushing unacceptable practices on kids or acknowledge that these atrocities of transgendering and grooming are all coming pretty much 100% from the left. Her posts suggest she wants us to believe those on the right are just as guilty. We aren't. She suggests that those of us on the right are meddling into things we shouldn't be meddling on this topic. We aren't.
 
Come on Coyote isn't supporting or condoning that and she has made that quite clear.
But neither will she condemn the left pushing unacceptable practices on kids or acknowledge that these atrocities of transgendering and grooming are all coming pretty much 100% from the left. Her posts suggest she wants us to believe those on the right are just as guilty. We aren't.
not condemning them is supporting them,,

not to speak is to speak,,
 
That's a bald face lie, proving the Neo-GOP is no doubt using these lies about young children and Democrats politically'

"This isn't the first time DeSantis suggested that "young kids" in the U.S. receive transition-related surgeries. DeSantis criticized these procedures in an Aug. 3 conference:

"They want to castrate these young boys, that's wrong. We stood up and said, from the health and children's well-being perspective, you don't disfigure 10, 12, 13-year-old kids based on gender dysphoria."

We found no examples of doctors "literally chopping off the private parts of young kids," as DeSantis said.

"That is not true under any existing medical guidelines," said Dr. Jack Turban, assistant professor of child and adolescent psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco. "No medical or surgical interventions are considered for prepubertal children."


But the country is on to you guys and your anti-American lies.
What in this article listing 13 medical facilities doing gender affirming care on minors, several listing CHILDREN adolescents and teens, can you refute? It is happening on an increasingly larger scale and it shouldn't be.

 
What in this article listing 13 medical facilities doing gender affirming care on minors, several listing CHILDREN adolescents and teens, can you refute? It is happening on an increasingly larger scale and it shouldn't be.


"They want to castrate these young boys, that's wrong. We stood up and said, from the health and children's well-being perspective, you don't disfigure 10, 12, 13-year-old kids based on gender dysphoria."

Is what Desantis claimed. Not that 15 year old girls had had their teats removed, or 18 year old were having the genital surgery. Even your article affirms that.
 
"They want to castrate these young boys, that's wrong. We stood up and said, from the health and children's well-being perspective, you don't disfigure 10, 12, 13-year-old kids based on gender dysphoria."

Is what Desantis claimed. Not that 15 year old girls had had their teats removed, or 18 year old were having the genital surgery. Even your article affirms that.
He said they "WANT TO. . ." and not specifically that they are doing it. The list of medical facilities in the article I link specifies some are doing gender surgery on CHILDREN, adolescents, teens.

Now you can try to demonize DeSantis for addressing a problem at lot of us think it is critical to address given the way things have been going, but he is right. NO "GENDER AFFIRMING TREATMENT" of ANY kind should be done on anyone under Age 18 and that must be the law. If I was writing the law I would make the age limit 25 as that is when a person's brain is fully formed and the person is a completed biological adult and fully emotionally developed and most likely knows who and what he/she is.

DeSantis is also right that most of the gender issues labeled 'gender disphora' resolve by the time the person reaches adulthood. Currently only 14 states have laws prohibiting 'gender-affirming care' on persons under the legal age of majority and those states are demonized and damned by leftists who don't want those laws to exist.

Are you okay with those laws? Or do you think 'gender affirming care' is okay for children, adolescents, teens?
 
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but he is right. NO "GENDER AFFIRMING TREATMENT" of ANY kind should be done on anyone under Age 18 and that must be the law.
Nope he is not right if simple taking them to a therapist/counselor to discuss it is considered treatment. Reassignment surgery should be reserved for 17 year old teens with parental consent or emancipated teens (17) as well. I also think that should be the requirement for breast removal also.
 
Nope he is not right if simple taking them to a therapist/counselor to discuss it is considered treatment. Reassignment surgery should be reserved for 17 year old teens with parental consent or emancipated teens (17) as well. I also think that should be the requirement for breast removal also.
He was not talking about simply taking them to a therapist and you know it. However any ethical therapist would advise the parent and child that gender affirming care is not recommended for anyone under age 18 and preferably 21 or 25.

And reassignment surgery should he reserved for people no younger than 21. If you have to be 21 to buy or use hard liquor, 21 should be the minimum age to get transgender surgery. I personally think the minimum age should be 25. If that was the law I'm pretty sure 99% of the people would no longer want it.
 
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