This is why we have gun crime, woman who gave guns to criminals: no prison time....

[2aguy]

This woman was caught selling guns to criminals......convicted on 4 felony counts she will serve no time in prison.

And then the anti gunners wonder why chicago has a high gun murder rate....

This woman should serve 30 years in prison, and her picture should be put up in every gun store in the country to warn other straw buyers that if they sell to a criminal, they will go to jail for 30 years...

That is how you lower the gun crime rate in this country.....not with laws targeting law abiding gun owners....

Straw purchaser with 4 felony gun charges will not get jail time

A Chicago-area woman arrested last year for her role in illegally selling guns to prohibited buyers, some with gang affiliations, was sentenced to probation and community service last week.

Simone Mousheh, 23, of the Chicago suburb of Mount Prospect, will have to complete 15 days of community service in the Cook County Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program and 12 months probation after pleading guilty to illegal transfer of firearms last week, as reported by the Daily Herald.

Mousheh was arrested last September and charged with four felonies after an investigation by the Chicago Police Firearm Investigation Team concluded she had bought handguns through the benefit of her state-issued Firearms Owners Identification card and then illegally resold them.

One gun, a Glock 23 Mousheh later reported as stolen, was recovered by police from a juvenile offender on the West Side. Another Glock, a Model 22, was sold to Jayson Barber nine days after she bought it. Mousheh knew at the time that Barber was on probation for domestic battery, and did not have a FOID card which is needed to possess a handgun in Illinois. Police later determined Barber had gang ties. The Glock was the second gun she sold to Barber.

Over a six-month period, Mousheh purchased four Glocks and put a $1,000 deposit on an FN 5.7 pistol. Police were only able to recover the Glock from Barber as well as one other gun and a box of 5.7x28mm ammunition from her home.

 

[koshergrl]

If the criminals were kept in prison where they belong there wouldn't have been any gun crime period. It isn't the fault of the people who either sell them guns, or who have guns stolen by them...

it's the fact that these criminals are on the street to begin with. Let them rot in jail. Stop letting them out early...and for violent crimes, people should get YEARS AND YEARS. Not months or weeks.

 

[Montrovant]

This woman was caught selling guns to criminals......convicted on 4 felony counts she will serve no time in prison.

And then the anti gunners wonder why chicago has a high gun murder rate....

This woman should serve 30 years in prison, and her picture should be put up in every gun store in the country to warn other straw buyers that if they sell to a criminal, they will go to jail for 30 years...

That is how you lower the gun crime rate in this country.....not with laws targeting law abiding gun owners....

Straw purchaser with 4 felony gun charges will not get jail time

A Chicago-area woman arrested last year for her role in illegally selling guns to prohibited buyers, some with gang affiliations, was sentenced to probation and community service last week.

Simone Mousheh, 23, of the Chicago suburb of Mount Prospect, will have to complete 15 days of community service in the Cook County Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program and 12 months probation after pleading guilty to illegal transfer of firearms last week, as reported by the Daily Herald.

Mousheh was arrested last September and charged with four felonies after an investigation by the Chicago Police Firearm Investigation Team concluded she had bought handguns through the benefit of her state-issued Firearms Owners Identification card and then illegally resold them.

One gun, a Glock 23 Mousheh later reported as stolen, was recovered by police from a juvenile offender on the West Side. Another Glock, a Model 22, was sold to Jayson Barber nine days after she bought it. Mousheh knew at the time that Barber was on probation for domestic battery, and did not have a FOID card which is needed to possess a handgun in Illinois. Police later determined Barber had gang ties. The Glock was the second gun she sold to Barber.

Over a six-month period, Mousheh purchased four Glocks and put a $1,000 deposit on an FN 5.7 pistol. Police were only able to recover the Glock from Barber as well as one other gun and a box of 5.7x28mm ammunition from her home.

I don't think it's fair to try to narrow the reasons for gun crime down to just one, but this certainly is an example of a contributing factor.

 

[Fenton Lum]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

 

[2aguy]

This woman was caught selling guns to criminals......convicted on 4 felony counts she will serve no time in prison.

And then the anti gunners wonder why chicago has a high gun murder rate....

This woman should serve 30 years in prison, and her picture should be put up in every gun store in the country to warn other straw buyers that if they sell to a criminal, they will go to jail for 30 years...

That is how you lower the gun crime rate in this country.....not with laws targeting law abiding gun owners....

Straw purchaser with 4 felony gun charges will not get jail time

A Chicago-area woman arrested last year for her role in illegally selling guns to prohibited buyers, some with gang affiliations, was sentenced to probation and community service last week.

Simone Mousheh, 23, of the Chicago suburb of Mount Prospect, will have to complete 15 days of community service in the Cook County Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program and 12 months probation after pleading guilty to illegal transfer of firearms last week, as reported by the Daily Herald.

Mousheh was arrested last September and charged with four felonies after an investigation by the Chicago Police Firearm Investigation Team concluded she had bought handguns through the benefit of her state-issued Firearms Owners Identification card and then illegally resold them.

One gun, a Glock 23 Mousheh later reported as stolen, was recovered by police from a juvenile offender on the West Side. Another Glock, a Model 22, was sold to Jayson Barber nine days after she bought it. Mousheh knew at the time that Barber was on probation for domestic battery, and did not have a FOID card which is needed to possess a handgun in Illinois. Police later determined Barber had gang ties. The Glock was the second gun she sold to Barber.

Over a six-month period, Mousheh purchased four Glocks and put a $1,000 deposit on an FN 5.7 pistol. Police were only able to recover the Glock from Barber as well as one other gun and a box of 5.7x28mm ammunition from her home.

I don't think it's fair to try to narrow the reasons for gun crime down to just one, but this certainly is an example of a contributing factor.

You are right.....
This is, however, a huge reason that we have the levels of gun crime and gun murder in our democrat controlled voting districts...

If we put actual criminals who use guns to commit crime in jail for 30 years.....as Japan does.....then our gun crime problem would decrease dramatically. When convicted felons, caught with an illegal gun get less than 2 years in jail......you get gun murder and crime rates at the level you see in Chicago and other democrat voting districts...

 

[2aguy]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

No...not really....we just need to make sure that those law abiding Americans who want or need a gun can get them.

Since the fact is that as more Americans bought and carried guns...our gun crime rate went down 75%....our gun murder rate went down 49%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....all while we went from 200 million guns to 357-400 million guns......and we now have over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense.

Britain? They banned guns in 1996....their gun crime rate never dropped and in fact......gun crime in London is up 42% in 2016....up 10% in 2015......

 

[Fenton Lum]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

No...not really....we just need to make sure that those law abiding Americans who want or need a gun can get them.

Since the fact is that as more Americans bought and carried guns...our gun crime rate went down 75%....our gun murder rate went down 49%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....all while we went from 200 million guns to 357-400 million guns......and we now have over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense.

Britain? They banned guns in 1996....their gun crime rate never dropped and in fact......gun crime in London is up 42% in 2016....up 10% in 2015......

We want more!!!!!

 

[Montrovant]

This woman was caught selling guns to criminals......convicted on 4 felony counts she will serve no time in prison.

And then the anti gunners wonder why chicago has a high gun murder rate....

This woman should serve 30 years in prison, and her picture should be put up in every gun store in the country to warn other straw buyers that if they sell to a criminal, they will go to jail for 30 years...

That is how you lower the gun crime rate in this country.....not with laws targeting law abiding gun owners....

Straw purchaser with 4 felony gun charges will not get jail time

A Chicago-area woman arrested last year for her role in illegally selling guns to prohibited buyers, some with gang affiliations, was sentenced to probation and community service last week.

Simone Mousheh, 23, of the Chicago suburb of Mount Prospect, will have to complete 15 days of community service in the Cook County Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program and 12 months probation after pleading guilty to illegal transfer of firearms last week, as reported by the Daily Herald.

Mousheh was arrested last September and charged with four felonies after an investigation by the Chicago Police Firearm Investigation Team concluded she had bought handguns through the benefit of her state-issued Firearms Owners Identification card and then illegally resold them.

One gun, a Glock 23 Mousheh later reported as stolen, was recovered by police from a juvenile offender on the West Side. Another Glock, a Model 22, was sold to Jayson Barber nine days after she bought it. Mousheh knew at the time that Barber was on probation for domestic battery, and did not have a FOID card which is needed to possess a handgun in Illinois. Police later determined Barber had gang ties. The Glock was the second gun she sold to Barber.

Over a six-month period, Mousheh purchased four Glocks and put a $1,000 deposit on an FN 5.7 pistol. Police were only able to recover the Glock from Barber as well as one other gun and a box of 5.7x28mm ammunition from her home.

I don't think it's fair to try to narrow the reasons for gun crime down to just one, but this certainly is an example of a contributing factor.

You are right.....
This is, however, a huge reason that we have the levels of gun crime and gun murder in our democrat controlled voting districts...

If we put actual criminals who use guns to commit crime in jail for 30 years.....as Japan does.....then our gun crime problem would decrease dramatically. When convicted felons, caught with an illegal gun get less than 2 years in jail......you get gun murder and crime rates at the level you see in Chicago and other democrat voting districts...

Japan, just from some very brief reading, allows very little gun ownership. I don't think you should use their laws as a model.

 

[Old Rocks]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

No...not really....we just need to make sure that those law abiding Americans who want or need a gun can get them.

Since the fact is that as more Americans bought and carried guns...our gun crime rate went down 75%....our gun murder rate went down 49%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....all while we went from 200 million guns to 357-400 million guns......and we now have over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense.

Britain? They banned guns in 1996....their gun crime rate never dropped and in fact......gun crime in London is up 42% in 2016....up 10% in 2015......

Is that why you fellows made sure that mentally impaired people can buy guns?

My goodness, when did these states go blue?

States with the most gun violence

These are the states with the most gun violence.

• Alaska. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000. ...
• Louisiana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.1 per 100,000. ...
• Mississippi. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.7 per 100,000. ...
• Alabama. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.5 per 100,000. ...
• Montana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000.

You are one fucked up liar.

 

[Old Rocks]

This woman was caught selling guns to criminals......convicted on 4 felony counts she will serve no time in prison.

And then the anti gunners wonder why chicago has a high gun murder rate....

This woman should serve 30 years in prison, and her picture should be put up in every gun store in the country to warn other straw buyers that if they sell to a criminal, they will go to jail for 30 years...

That is how you lower the gun crime rate in this country.....not with laws targeting law abiding gun owners....

Straw purchaser with 4 felony gun charges will not get jail time

A Chicago-area woman arrested last year for her role in illegally selling guns to prohibited buyers, some with gang affiliations, was sentenced to probation and community service last week.

Simone Mousheh, 23, of the Chicago suburb of Mount Prospect, will have to complete 15 days of community service in the Cook County Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program and 12 months probation after pleading guilty to illegal transfer of firearms last week, as reported by the Daily Herald.

Mousheh was arrested last September and charged with four felonies after an investigation by the Chicago Police Firearm Investigation Team concluded she had bought handguns through the benefit of her state-issued Firearms Owners Identification card and then illegally resold them.

One gun, a Glock 23 Mousheh later reported as stolen, was recovered by police from a juvenile offender on the West Side. Another Glock, a Model 22, was sold to Jayson Barber nine days after she bought it. Mousheh knew at the time that Barber was on probation for domestic battery, and did not have a FOID card which is needed to possess a handgun in Illinois. Police later determined Barber had gang ties. The Glock was the second gun she sold to Barber.

Over a six-month period, Mousheh purchased four Glocks and put a $1,000 deposit on an FN 5.7 pistol. Police were only able to recover the Glock from Barber as well as one other gun and a box of 5.7x28mm ammunition from her home.

I don't think it's fair to try to narrow the reasons for gun crime down to just one, but this certainly is an example of a contributing factor.

You are right.....
This is, however, a huge reason that we have the levels of gun crime and gun murder in our democrat controlled voting districts...

If we put actual criminals who use guns to commit crime in jail for 30 years.....as Japan does.....then our gun crime problem would decrease dramatically. When convicted felons, caught with an illegal gun get less than 2 years in jail......you get gun murder and crime rates at the level you see in Chicago and other democrat voting districts...

OK, let us adapt the Japanese gun laws.

 

[miketx]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

No...not really....we just need to make sure that those law abiding Americans who want or need a gun can get them.

Since the fact is that as more Americans bought and carried guns...our gun crime rate went down 75%....our gun murder rate went down 49%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....all while we went from 200 million guns to 357-400 million guns......and we now have over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense.

Britain? They banned guns in 1996....their gun crime rate never dropped and in fact......gun crime in London is up 42% in 2016....up 10% in 2015......

Is that why you fellows made sure that mentally impaired people can buy guns?

My goodness, when did these states go blue?

States with the most gun violence

These are the states with the most gun violence.

• Alaska. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000. ...
• Louisiana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.1 per 100,000. ...
• Mississippi. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.7 per 100,000. ...
• Alabama. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.5 per 100,000. ...
• Montana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000.

You are one fucked up liar.

I'd say you were the one lying. Did you get that from CNN?

 

[2aguy]

This woman was caught selling guns to criminals......convicted on 4 felony counts she will serve no time in prison.

And then the anti gunners wonder why chicago has a high gun murder rate....

This woman should serve 30 years in prison, and her picture should be put up in every gun store in the country to warn other straw buyers that if they sell to a criminal, they will go to jail for 30 years...

That is how you lower the gun crime rate in this country.....not with laws targeting law abiding gun owners....

Straw purchaser with 4 felony gun charges will not get jail time

A Chicago-area woman arrested last year for her role in illegally selling guns to prohibited buyers, some with gang affiliations, was sentenced to probation and community service last week.

Simone Mousheh, 23, of the Chicago suburb of Mount Prospect, will have to complete 15 days of community service in the Cook County Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program and 12 months probation after pleading guilty to illegal transfer of firearms last week, as reported by the Daily Herald.

Mousheh was arrested last September and charged with four felonies after an investigation by the Chicago Police Firearm Investigation Team concluded she had bought handguns through the benefit of her state-issued Firearms Owners Identification card and then illegally resold them.

One gun, a Glock 23 Mousheh later reported as stolen, was recovered by police from a juvenile offender on the West Side. Another Glock, a Model 22, was sold to Jayson Barber nine days after she bought it. Mousheh knew at the time that Barber was on probation for domestic battery, and did not have a FOID card which is needed to possess a handgun in Illinois. Police later determined Barber had gang ties. The Glock was the second gun she sold to Barber.

Over a six-month period, Mousheh purchased four Glocks and put a $1,000 deposit on an FN 5.7 pistol. Police were only able to recover the Glock from Barber as well as one other gun and a box of 5.7x28mm ammunition from her home.

I don't think it's fair to try to narrow the reasons for gun crime down to just one, but this certainly is an example of a contributing factor.

You are right.....
This is, however, a huge reason that we have the levels of gun crime and gun murder in our democrat controlled voting districts...

If we put actual criminals who use guns to commit crime in jail for 30 years.....as Japan does.....then our gun crime problem would decrease dramatically. When convicted felons, caught with an illegal gun get less than 2 years in jail......you get gun murder and crime rates at the level you see in Chicago and other democrat voting districts...

Japan, just from some very brief reading, allows very little gun ownership. I don't think you should use their laws as a model.

Yeah...it isn't Japan's gun control laws that have kept their gun crime and murder rates low.....it is the culture of the Japanese people that keeps it low....also.....until recently the Japanese Yakuza would use guns and grenades in their periodic warfare.....a lot.....so they were able to get all the guns and grenades they wanted...on an island nation with complete gun control...

What stopped the last Yakuza war from breaking out..... new 30 year sentences for gun crimes and heavy fines on the Yakuza bosses when their underlings killed people with guns......

those are the two things that actually worked....I support the 30 year sentences for actual gun criminals...but I don't know how you would fine gang leaders here in the U.S. for the gun murders their minions commit...do you?

And here is Japanese people control....over gun control...


Read the following article...and tell me how many Americans would tolerate this culture here in the U.S......

Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.

Notice how they didn't cite him using that quote?

This is the part of his piece they don't qoute...how the Japanese actually keep all crime, not just gun crime low...

Robbery in Japan is about as rare as murder. Japan's annual robbery rate is 1.8 per 100,000 inhabitants; America's is 205.4. Do the gun banners have the argument won when they point to these statistics? No, they don't. A realistic examination of Japanese culture leads to the conclusion that gun control has little, if anything, to do with Japan's low crime rates. Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally.

The most important element of police power, though, is not authority to search, but authority in the community. Like school teachers, Japanese policemen rate high in public esteem, especially in the countryside. Community leaders and role models, the police are trained in calligraphy and Haiku composition. In police per capita, Japan far outranks all other major democracies.

15,000 koban "police boxes" are located throughout the cities. Citizens go to the 24-hour-a-day boxes not only for street directions, but to complain about day-to-day problems, such as noisy neighbors, or to ask advice on how to raise children. Some of the policemen and their families live in the boxes. Police box officers clear 74.6% of all criminal cases cleared. Police box officers also spend time teaching neighborhood youth judo or calligraphy. The officers even hand- write their own newspapers, with information about crime and accidents, "stories about good deeds by children, and opinions of
residents."

The police box system contrasts sharply with the practice in America. Here, most departments adopt a policy of "stranger policing." To prevent corruption, police are frequently rotated from one neighborhood to another. But as federal judge Charles Silberman writes, "the cure is worse than the disease, for officers develop no sense of identification with their beats, hence no emotional stake in improving the quality of life there."

Thus, the U.S. citizenry does not develop a supportive relationship with the police. One poll showed that 60% of police officers believe "it is difficult to persuade people to give patrolmen the information they need."

The Japanese police do not spend all their time in the koban boxes. As the Japanese government puts it: "Home visit is one of the most important duties of officers assigned to police boxes." Making annual visits to each home in their beat, officers keep track of who lives where, and which family member to contact in case of emergency. The police also check on all gun licensees, to make sure no gun has been stolen or misused, that the gun is securely stored, and that the licensees are emotionally stable.

Gun banners might rejoice at a society where the police keep such a sharp eye on citizens' guns. But the price is that the police keep an eye on everything.

Policemen are apt to tell people reading sexually-oriented magazines to read something more worthwhile. Japan's major official year-end police report includes statistics like "Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct." In 1985, the police determined that 37.4% of the girls had been seduced, and the rest had had sex "voluntarily." For the volunteers, 19.6% acted "out of curiosity", while for 18.1%, the motive was "liked particular boy." The year-end police report also includes sections on labor demands, and on anti-nuclear or anti-military demonstrations.

 

[2aguy]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

No...not really....we just need to make sure that those law abiding Americans who want or need a gun can get them.

Since the fact is that as more Americans bought and carried guns...our gun crime rate went down 75%....our gun murder rate went down 49%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....all while we went from 200 million guns to 357-400 million guns......and we now have over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense.

Britain? They banned guns in 1996....their gun crime rate never dropped and in fact......gun crime in London is up 42% in 2016....up 10% in 2015......

Is that why you fellows made sure that mentally impaired people can buy guns?

My goodness, when did these states go blue?

States with the most gun violence

These are the states with the most gun violence.

• Alaska. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000. ...
• Louisiana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.1 per 100,000. ...
• Mississippi. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.7 per 100,000. ...
• Alabama. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.5 per 100,000. ...
• Montana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000.

You are one fucked up liar.

Oh...you are using the Bait and Switch article.....the link you gave uses Bait and Switch....they imply that all gun deaths are gun murder.......and hide the fact that in those states that they quote for gun deaths..the majority are actually gun suicides.....since they have almost little to no gun crime....

Notice how they use "Firearm Death Rate" and not "Firearm Murder Rate." That is the bait and switch...because if they don't do it...as you expand the number of states...their little ploy falls apart...as states with huge numbers of guns have extremely low gun crime and gun murder rates...but some have high gun suicide rates...which don't count...since other countries with almost absolute gun control...japan, China, south Korea...have higher suicide rates than we do.....

but thanks for playing.....Bait and Switch is a favorite game of gun grabbers....

 

[2aguy]

This woman was caught selling guns to criminals......convicted on 4 felony counts she will serve no time in prison.

And then the anti gunners wonder why chicago has a high gun murder rate....

This woman should serve 30 years in prison, and her picture should be put up in every gun store in the country to warn other straw buyers that if they sell to a criminal, they will go to jail for 30 years...

That is how you lower the gun crime rate in this country.....not with laws targeting law abiding gun owners....

Straw purchaser with 4 felony gun charges will not get jail time

A Chicago-area woman arrested last year for her role in illegally selling guns to prohibited buyers, some with gang affiliations, was sentenced to probation and community service last week.

Simone Mousheh, 23, of the Chicago suburb of Mount Prospect, will have to complete 15 days of community service in the Cook County Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program and 12 months probation after pleading guilty to illegal transfer of firearms last week, as reported by the Daily Herald.

Mousheh was arrested last September and charged with four felonies after an investigation by the Chicago Police Firearm Investigation Team concluded she had bought handguns through the benefit of her state-issued Firearms Owners Identification card and then illegally resold them.

One gun, a Glock 23 Mousheh later reported as stolen, was recovered by police from a juvenile offender on the West Side. Another Glock, a Model 22, was sold to Jayson Barber nine days after she bought it. Mousheh knew at the time that Barber was on probation for domestic battery, and did not have a FOID card which is needed to possess a handgun in Illinois. Police later determined Barber had gang ties. The Glock was the second gun she sold to Barber.

Over a six-month period, Mousheh purchased four Glocks and put a $1,000 deposit on an FN 5.7 pistol. Police were only able to recover the Glock from Barber as well as one other gun and a box of 5.7x28mm ammunition from her home.

I don't think it's fair to try to narrow the reasons for gun crime down to just one, but this certainly is an example of a contributing factor.

You are right.....
This is, however, a huge reason that we have the levels of gun crime and gun murder in our democrat controlled voting districts...

If we put actual criminals who use guns to commit crime in jail for 30 years.....as Japan does.....then our gun crime problem would decrease dramatically. When convicted felons, caught with an illegal gun get less than 2 years in jail......you get gun murder and crime rates at the level you see in Chicago and other democrat voting districts...

OK, let us adapt the Japanese gun laws.

Sorry....there in only one Japanese law we need and the democrats are fighting it tooth and nail....

Longer prison sentences for gun crime....that is the law that keeps Japanese criminals from using guns more often.....and they also fine Yakuza bosses huge amounts of money if their underlings kill innocent people.....

Then of course we would need to allow the police to search anyone they wanted, anytime they wanted for any reason they wanted...you okay with that, genius?

Then of course are the police home inspections....without warrants....you okay with that genius?

And the fact that the judges allow the police and prosecutors to withhold legal counsel, beat prisoners...and don't care...you okay with that genius?

Get back to me on that...

 

[2aguy]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

No...not really....we just need to make sure that those law abiding Americans who want or need a gun can get them.

Since the fact is that as more Americans bought and carried guns...our gun crime rate went down 75%....our gun murder rate went down 49%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....all while we went from 200 million guns to 357-400 million guns......and we now have over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense.

Britain? They banned guns in 1996....their gun crime rate never dropped and in fact......gun crime in London is up 42% in 2016....up 10% in 2015......

Is that why you fellows made sure that mentally impaired people can buy guns?

My goodness, when did these states go blue?

States with the most gun violence

These are the states with the most gun violence.

• Alaska. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000. ...
• Louisiana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.1 per 100,000. ...
• Mississippi. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.7 per 100,000. ...
• Alabama. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.5 per 100,000. ...
• Montana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000.

You are one fucked up liar.

Hey genius......did you look at those states they use in the Bait and Switch.....here is Alaska...the first one you posted.....guess what it says...genius.....

1. Alaska

> 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000
> Total firearm deaths 2004-2013: 1,256 (10th lowest)
> Violent crime rate: 640.4 (the highest)
> Permit required to buy handgun: No
> Poverty rate: 9.3% (2nd lowest)

There were roughly 20 firearm deaths per 100,000 residents in Alaska, nearly double the national rate.

As in many other states with high gun-death rates, the vast majority of deaths were the result of suicide.

Unlike most states on this list, however, Alaskan households were quite wealthy. A typical household earned $72,237, roughly $20,000 more than a typical household across the nation. Other types of crime were also more common in the state. In fact, Alaska had the highest violent crime rate in the country at more than 640 violent crimes per 100,000 residents.

 

[2aguy]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

No...not really....we just need to make sure that those law abiding Americans who want or need a gun can get them.

Since the fact is that as more Americans bought and carried guns...our gun crime rate went down 75%....our gun murder rate went down 49%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....all while we went from 200 million guns to 357-400 million guns......and we now have over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense.

Britain? They banned guns in 1996....their gun crime rate never dropped and in fact......gun crime in London is up 42% in 2016....up 10% in 2015......

Is that why you fellows made sure that mentally impaired people can buy guns?

My goodness, when did these states go blue?

States with the most gun violence

These are the states with the most gun violence.

• Alaska. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000. ...
• Louisiana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.1 per 100,000. ...
• Mississippi. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.7 per 100,000. ...
• Alabama. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.5 per 100,000. ...
• Montana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000.

You are one fucked up liar.

And What do Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama have in common.....lots of democrat voting districts......with lots of democrats actually pulling the triggers on each other.....Check the mayors of the largest of their cities...see who has been running them for the last few decades.....

 

[2aguy]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

No...not really....we just need to make sure that those law abiding Americans who want or need a gun can get them.

Since the fact is that as more Americans bought and carried guns...our gun crime rate went down 75%....our gun murder rate went down 49%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....all while we went from 200 million guns to 357-400 million guns......and we now have over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense.

Britain? They banned guns in 1996....their gun crime rate never dropped and in fact......gun crime in London is up 42% in 2016....up 10% in 2015......

Is that why you fellows made sure that mentally impaired people can buy guns?

My goodness, when did these states go blue?

States with the most gun violence

These are the states with the most gun violence.

• Alaska. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000. ...
• Louisiana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.1 per 100,000. ...
• Mississippi. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.7 per 100,000. ...
• Alabama. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.5 per 100,000. ...
• Montana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000.

You are one fucked up liar.

Hey genius....did you look up Montana before you posted...another bait and switch state.......

5. Montana

> 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000
> Total firearm deaths 2004-2013: 1,540 (12th lowest)
> Violent crime rate: 252.9 (11th lowest)
> Permit required to buy handgun: No
> Poverty rate: 16.5% (19th highest)

Montana had the fifth highest rate of firearm deaths, at nearly 17 per 100,000 residents. Further, gun-related deaths have been steadily increasing since 2006. In fact, Montana registered the highest firearm death rate in the decade ending in 2013. Other types of crime — including rape, robbery, and motor vehicle theft — were relatively less common in the state. There were roughly 253 violent crimes per 100,000 residents, significantly lower than the violent crime rate across the nation of nearly 368 per 100,000.

As in many of the states with high rates of gun deaths, suicides made up the vast majority of deaths. More than 85% of gun-deaths were due to suicide, the 10th highest such share in the country.

You really are a genius....you anti gunners buy the Bait and Switch of your lunatics hook line and sinker.....

 

[Missourian]

Is that why you fellows made sure that mentally impaired people can buy guns?

My goodness, when did these states go blue?

States with the most gun violence

These are the states with the most gun violence.

• Alaska. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000. ...
• Louisiana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.1 per 100,000. ...
• Mississippi. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.7 per 100,000. ...
• Alabama. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.5 per 100,000. ...
• Montana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000.

You are one fucked up liar.

Firearm death and firearm violence are not the same thing.

Unable to handle finances is not the same as crazy.

 

[2aguy]

Is that why you fellows made sure that mentally impaired people can buy guns?

My goodness, when did these states go blue?

States with the most gun violence

These are the states with the most gun violence.

• Alaska. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000. ...
• Louisiana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.1 per 100,000. ...
• Mississippi. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.7 per 100,000. ...
• Alabama. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.5 per 100,000. ...
• Montana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000.

You are one fucked up liar.

Firearm death and firearm violence are not the same thing.

Unable to handle finances is not the same as crazy.

But lying about the two..."Firearm death" and "Firearm violence" is the best way to get people to hate guns......the only real lesson here....never, ever, trust and anti gunner and anything they say about guns.....they lie.....all the time because the facts, the truth and reality do not support what they say...so they lie...because they hate guns.

 

[2aguy]

We can never have enough guns in amurka, buy more now!

No...not really....we just need to make sure that those law abiding Americans who want or need a gun can get them.

Since the fact is that as more Americans bought and carried guns...our gun crime rate went down 75%....our gun murder rate went down 49%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%.....all while we went from 200 million guns to 357-400 million guns......and we now have over 15 million Americans carrying guns for self defense.

Britain? They banned guns in 1996....their gun crime rate never dropped and in fact......gun crime in London is up 42% in 2016....up 10% in 2015......

Is that why you fellows made sure that mentally impaired people can buy guns?

My goodness, when did these states go blue?

States with the most gun violence

These are the states with the most gun violence.

• Alaska. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.6 per 100,000. ...
• Louisiana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 19.1 per 100,000. ...
• Mississippi. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.7 per 100,000. ...
• Alabama. > 2013 firearm death rate: 17.5 per 100,000. ...
• Montana. > 2013 firearm death rate: 16.8 per 100,000.

You are one fucked up liar.

Hey genius....the mayors of Baton Rouge, Louisiana.....democrat since 1950s........

New Orleans, Louisiana....democrat mayors since 1878.....genius...

But of course...that wouldn't have anything to do with their crime rate...just ask the democrats who have run chicago....