This is why we must abandon our fight with muslims.....

[Flopper]

Deadly Blast Rocks Wedding Ceremony In Turkey’s Gaziantep
President Erdogan said the suicide bomber was a child between 12 and 14 years old. These gotdamned motherfuckers are beyond crazy, beyond frying jews crazy....you can't win with people like this. Unless their muslim community as a whole join forces to stop this madness, look for this war to last another 17 years and then some.

Why would you think Muslim communities in Asia and Middle East should be able to flush out these terrorists? They have the same problems as the rest of world but far less security. Islamic terrorists tend be loaners or working in small groups. They blend into the population and rarely stay in one place that long. Radicalize locals are rarely suspected because they're part of the community, not outsiders.

 

[tigerred59]

Deadly Blast Rocks Wedding Ceremony In Turkey’s Gaziantep
President Erdogan said the suicide bomber was a child between 12 and 14 years old. These gotdamned motherfuckers are beyond crazy, beyond frying jews crazy....you can't win with people like this. Unless their muslim community as a whole join forces to stop this madness, look for this war to last another 17 years and then some.

Why would you think Muslim communities in Asia and Middle East should be able to flush out these terrorists? They have the same problems as the rest of world but far less security. Islamic terrorists tend be loaners or working in small groups. They blend into the population and rarely stay in one place that long. Radicalize locals are rarely suspected because they're part of the community, not outsiders.

Exactly, that's why we're fighting a losing battle....evil will flourish no matter where you go, what you do. What the US must do, is abandon this plight of trying to wipe out evil and take our resourses, our money and our time an focus inward!!

 

[Muhammed]

Aleppo was not about ISIS either. This is Assad killing his own people because he won't step down.

BS. It is about ISIS trying to overthrow the democratically elected government of Syria.

 

[Unkotare]

We would arguably be in a better position if Bush had used one nuke on Afghanistan or the Saudis after 9/11 and skipped the rest of the military action.

???

 

[Katzndogz]

Deadly Blast Rocks Wedding Ceremony In Turkey’s Gaziantep
President Erdogan said the suicide bomber was a child between 12 and 14 years old. These gotdamned motherfuckers are beyond crazy, beyond frying jews crazy....you can't win with people like this. Unless their muslim community as a whole join forces to stop this madness, look for this war to last another 17 years and then some.

I wonder if patriotic Muslims are secretly giving names to the FBI. I bet they are. We catch a lot of them before they act.

Patriotic muslims!!! There are none.

 

[MikeK]

I wonder if patriotic Muslims are secretly giving names to the FBI. I bet they are. We catch a lot of them before they act.

Of course there are undercover operatives who feed the FBI with information, but it's nowhere near enough to keep up with a terrorist organization like ISIS.

Thus far we've suffered only one major terrorist event, which was the 9/11 attack by which ISIS (then Al Qaeda) introduced itself to us. The Boston Marathon bombing was a comparatively minor event and the occasional mass shooting incident is not enough to provoke the average American citizen to radical action.

Our intelligence resources have thus far enabled us to avoid another major terrorist event. But each time we manage to catch one in the planning stage ISIS gets smarter -- and they have no shortage of shahids who are not only willing but eager to commit suicide. That pathological frame of mind is a weapon which not only is difficult to defend against but is nearly impossible for the Western Judeo/Christian mind to comprehend. It is in fact the very weakness in our defenses which enabled the 911 attack, because one soldier who is not only willing but is eager to die is worth a thousand who aren't

So far there has not been sufficient major terrorist activity occurring within the U.S. homeland to provoke radical action on the part of ordinary civilians. But with the volume of un-verified Muslims streaming in here how much longer can our luck and tolerance hold out?

All it will take is a few 9/11 type attacks and the election of some truly radical and angry ultra-Conservatives in the White House and the Congress and the shit will hit the fan. When that happens it is not difficult to envision the implementation of concentration camps and mass deportations of any and every Muslim who even vaguely appears to have terrorist potential.

 

[MaryL]

Islam does such reprehensible things and wants to always portray itself as the "victim". Fool me once shame on me. Yada yada. Somehow I cant help but compare Islam to Nazisim or Nehilism or Satinism. If there any good muslims, they aren't stopping those bad ones. And I don't care anymore. Islam is a hate group disguised as a religion. Zieg Allah!

 

[DarkFury]

Tiger's a bed wetter...you can always count on them to wring their hands and declare "woe is me...we're doomed!"

You can win with people like this but first you have to admit that they aren't the JV team and that they are out to destroy us. Being PC? That's a recipe for failure.

Coming from the safety of this country and your trailer.....I see why you feel this way.....17 fuckin years and counting....and what do we have to show for it? Answer that, then we can talk!!

We have nothing to show for it because we insist on playing whac-a-mole with the enemy.

Question? Do you plan on volunteering should Trump get the white house?

Why don't you try addressing my point rather than puffing your chest up.

Dude, to date, just about every fuckin attack on US, has been by US, in US country, on US soil.....stop making up shit and deal with reality, you fool!!

Morgan, killing 35 people and injuring hundreds more. Bolshevist or anarchist terrorists believed responsible, but crime never solved.
1975
Jan. 24, New York City: bomb set off in historic Fraunces Tavern killed 4 and injured more than 50 people. Puerto Rican nationalist group (FALN) claimed responsibility, and police tied 13 other bombings to the group.
1979
Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. 14 were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days on the day of President Reagan's inauguration.
1982–1991
Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days.
1983
April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.
Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait: Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.
1984
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. 2 Americans killed.
1985
April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya.
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.
1986
April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.
1988
Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families.
1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.
1995
April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly 2 years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.)
Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.
1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant groupHezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissidentOsama bin Laden, who remained at large.
2000
Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. 17 sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.
2001
Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed 2 commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; 2 more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)
2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.
2003 1
May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.
2004
May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.
June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.
Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.
2005
Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.
2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.
2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.
Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.
2008
May 26, Iraq: a suicide bomber on a motorcycle kills six U.S. soldiers and wounds 18 others in Tarmiya.
June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.
June 12, Afghanistan: four American servicemen are killed when a roadside bomb explodes near a U.S. military vehicle in Farah Province.
July 13, Afghanistan: nine U.S.soldiers and at least 15 NATO troops die when Taliban militants boldly attack an American base in Kunar Province, which borders Pakistan. It's the most deadly against U.S. troops in three years.
Aug. 18 and 19, Afghanistan: as many as 15 suicide bombers backed by about 30 militants attack a U.S. military base, Camp Salerno, in Bamiyan. Fighting between U.S. troops and members of the Taliban rages overnight. No U.S. troops are killed.
Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.
Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans.
2009
Feb. 9, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills four American soldiers and their Iraqi translator near a police checkpoint.
April 10, Iraq: a suicide attack kills five American soldiers and two Iraqi policemen.
June 1, Little Rock, Arkansas: Abdulhakim Muhammed, a Muslim convert from Memphis, Tennessee, is charged with shooting two soldiers outside a military recruiting center. One is killed and the other is wounded. In a January 2010 letter to the judge hearing his case, Muhammed asked to change his plea from not guilty to guilty, claimed ties to al-Qaeda, and called the shooting a jihadi attack "to fight those who wage war on Islam and Muslims."
Dec. 25: A Nigerian man on a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit attempted to ignite an explosive device hidden in his underwear. The explosive device that failed to detonate was a mixture of powder and liquid that did not alert security personnel in the airport. The alleged bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, told officials later that he was directed by the terrorist group Al Qaeda. The suspect was already on the government's watch list when he attempted the bombing; his father, a respected Nigerian banker, had told the U.S. government that he was worried about his son's increased extremism.
Dec. 30, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills eight Americans civilians, seven of them CIA agents, at a base in Afghanistan. It's the deadliest attack on the agency since 9/11. The attacker is reportedly a double agent from Jordan who was acting on behalf of al-Qaeda.
2010
May 1, New York City: a car bomb is discovered in Times Square, New York City after smoke is seen coming from a vehicle. The bomb was ignited, but failed to detonate and was disarmed before it could cause any harm. Times Square was evacuated as a safety precaution. Faisal Shahzad pleads guilty to placing the bomb as well as 10 terrorism and weapons charges.
May 10, Jacksonville, Florida: a pipe bomb explodes while approximately 60 Muslims are praying in the mosque. The attack causes no injuries.
Oct. 29: two packages are found on separate cargo planes. Each package contains a bomb consisting of 300 to 400 grams (11-14 oz) of plastic explosives and a detonating mechanism. The bombs are discovered as a result of intelligence received from Saudi Arabia's security chief. The packages, bound from Yemen to the United States, are discovered at en route stop-overs, one in England and one in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.
2011
Jan. 17, Spokane, Washington: a pipe bomb is discovered along the route of the Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial march. The bomb, a "viable device" set up to spray marchers with shrapnel and to cause multiple casualties, is defused without any injuries.
2012
Sept. 11, Benghazi, Libya: militants armed with antiaircraft weapons and rocket-propelled grenades fire upon the American consulate, killing U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other embassy officials. U.S. secretary of state Hillary Clinton said the U.S. believed that Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, a group closely linked to Al Qaeda, orchestrated the attack.
2013
Feb. 1, Ankara, Turkey: Ecevit Sanli detonates a bomb near a gate at the U.S. Embassy. Sanli dies after detonating the bomb. One Turkish guard is also killed. Didem Tuncay, a respected television journalist, is injured in the blast. Unlike the bombing at the embassy in Benghazi last September, the U.S. government immediately calls the bombing a terrorist attack. According to Turkish officials, the attack is from the Revolutionary People's Liberation Party, which has been labeled a terrorist organization by the U.S. and other nations.
April 15, Boston, Mass.: multiple bombs explode near the finish line of the Boston Marathon. Two bombs go off around 2:50 in the afternoon as runners finish the race. Three people are killed. One is an eight year old boy. More than 260 people are injured. Three days later, the FBI releases photos and video of two suspects in the hope that the public can help identify them. Just hours after the FBI releases the images, the two suspects rob a gas station in Central Square then shoot and kill a MIT police officer in his car. Afterwards, the two men carjack a SUV and tell the driver that they had set off the explosions at the marathon. Police pursue the vehicle into Watertown. During the shootout, a MBTA officer is shot and one of the suspects, identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev, age 26, is killed. A suicide vest is found on his body. The other suspect, Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, age 19, remains at large for several hours, causing a massive manhunt and lockdown for all of Boston, Cambridge, and many other surrounding communities. The manhunt ends when he is found alive, but seriously injured, hiding in a boat behind a house in Watertown. The two suspects are brothers and had been living together in Cambridge. They have lived in the U.S. for about a decade, but are from an area near Chechnya, a region in Russia.
2014
July 17, Ukraine: A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 crashes in eastern Ukraine near the Russian border, killing all 298 passengers and crew members. The crash occurs in territory where pro-Russian separatists have been battling Ukrainian troops. President Poroshenko says the crash is an act of terror. "I would like to note that we are calling this not an incident, not a catastrophe, but a terrorist act," he says. Ukrainian and American officials say the plane is shot down by a Russian-made surface-to-air missile, citing satellite images. Poroshenko accuses the separatists of launching the missile, which they deny. Russian president Putin also denies having any role in the disaster. A day after the crash, President Obama says he believes that the rebels shot down the plane. He calls the crash a "global tragedy" and faults Putin for continuing to arm the rebels and for not stopping the fighting. Most analysts say rebels may have thought they were targeting a military transport plane rather than a commercial jet. A day before the crash, the U.S. and Europe impose further sanctions on Russia in response to Putin's refusal to stop arming the separatists.
August 19: Members of ISIS behead American journalist James Foley, 40, in apparent retaliation for U.S. airstrikes against the group. Foley, who worked for GlobalPost, went missing in Syria in November 2012.
Sept. 2: An ISIS militant decapitates another American journalist, Steven Sotloff, 31, who worked for Time and other news outlets. He was abducted in 2013 in Syria.
2015
Dec. 2, San Bernadino, Calif.: Fourteen people are killed and more than 20 wounded when two people open fire at a holiday party at the Inland Regional Center, a service facility for people with disabilities and special needs in San Bernardino, California. The suspects, husband and wife Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, are killed in a shootout with police after the rampage. Officials say they believe the attack is terrorism related. It is the worst mass shooting in the United States since 26 people were killed in Dec. 2012, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. (Dec. 8): The F.B.I. announces that Farook and Malik had been "radicalized." The FBI also concludes that while the couple was not working with ISIS directly, their actions were inspired by the Islamic State.
2016
June 12: A mass shooting at an Orlando nightclub in the early hours of Sunday, June 12, 2016, leaves 50 people dead, including the gunman, and more than 50 injured. The shooter is identified as Omar Mateen, 29, who entered the nightclub armed with an assault rifle and a pistol. According to authorities, Mr. Mateen pledged his allegiance to ISIS via a 911 call from inside the nightclub. This massacre is the deadliest mass shooting on U.S. soil.

See also U.S.-Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations; Suspected al-Qaeda Terrorist Acts.

1. On Oct. 29, 2003, New York officials reduced the number of people killed at the World Trade Center in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States by 40 names. The list of casualties dropped to 2,752 from 2,792 for a variety of reasons: some people initially reported missing have been found, there were duplicate names, there was no proof that a person was at the World Trade Center that day, and because of fraud. On January 2004, the number was reduced by 3 more to 2,749.

The MAJORITY of attacks on U.S. citizens has NOT been on U.S. soil or done by U.S. citizens.
Terrorist Attacks in the U.S. or Against Americans

 

[Katzndogz]

Deadly Blast Rocks Wedding Ceremony In Turkey’s Gaziantep
President Erdogan said the suicide bomber was a child between 12 and 14 years old. These gotdamned motherfuckers are beyond crazy, beyond frying jews crazy....you can't win with people like this. Unless their muslim community as a whole join forces to stop this madness, look for this war to last another 17 years and then some.

Why would you think Muslim communities in Asia and Middle East should be able to flush out these terrorists? They have the same problems as the rest of world but far less security. Islamic terrorists tend be loaners or working in small groups. They blend into the population and rarely stay in one place that long. Radicalize locals are rarely suspected because they're part of the community, not outsiders.

Exactly, that's why we're fighting a losing battle....evil will flourish no matter where you go, what you do. What the US must do, is abandon this plight of trying to wipe out evil and take our resourses, our money and our time an focus inward!!

Oh. You want to surrender. Have you given any thought to what life will be like under jihadi leadership? Maybe you have dreams of being a jihadi bride.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Deadly Blast Rocks Wedding Ceremony In Turkey’s Gaziantep
President Erdogan said the suicide bomber was a child between 12 and 14 years old. These gotdamned motherfuckers are beyond crazy, beyond frying jews crazy....you can't win with people like this. Unless their muslim community as a whole join forces to stop this madness, look for this war to last another 17 years and then some.

Why would you think Muslim communities in Asia and Middle East should be able to flush out these terrorists? They have the same problems as the rest of world but far less security. Islamic terrorists tend be loaners or working in small groups. They blend into the population and rarely stay in one place that long. Radicalize locals are rarely suspected because they're part of the community, not outsiders.

Exactly, that's why we're fighting a losing battle....evil will flourish no matter where you go, what you do. What the US must do, is abandon this plight of trying to wipe out evil and take our resourses, our money and our time an focus inward!!

Oh. You want to surrender. Have you given any thought to what life will be like under jihadi leadership? Maybe you have dreams of being a jihadi bride.

im sure you would love it.....

 

[tigerred59]

Deadly Blast Rocks Wedding Ceremony In Turkey’s Gaziantep
President Erdogan said the suicide bomber was a child between 12 and 14 years old. These gotdamned motherfuckers are beyond crazy, beyond frying jews crazy....you can't win with people like this. Unless their muslim community as a whole join forces to stop this madness, look for this war to last another 17 years and then some.

So we are we allowing them to come into this country unvetted??????

The OP seems to think by ignoring terrorists they go away. If that were true Hillary Clinton would be cleaning dog kennels in Little Rock.

We ignored communism, got out of Vietnam and guess what happened? 17 fuckin years and counting....and what do we have to show for it? Answer that, then we can talk!!

The communists took over because the democrats sold them out.

And yet Vietnam is thriving with tourism, fact bitch!!

 

[tigerred59]

Deadly Blast Rocks Wedding Ceremony In Turkey’s Gaziantep
President Erdogan said the suicide bomber was a child between 12 and 14 years old. These gotdamned motherfuckers are beyond crazy, beyond frying jews crazy....you can't win with people like this. Unless their muslim community as a whole join forces to stop this madness, look for this war to last another 17 years and then some.

Why would you think Muslim communities in Asia and Middle East should be able to flush out these terrorists? They have the same problems as the rest of world but far less security. Islamic terrorists tend be loaners or working in small groups. They blend into the population and rarely stay in one place that long. Radicalize locals are rarely suspected because they're part of the community, not outsiders.

Exactly, that's why we're fighting a losing battle....evil will flourish no matter where you go, what you do. What the US must do, is abandon this plight of trying to wipe out evil and take our resourses, our money and our time an focus inward!!

Oh. You want to surrender. Have you given any thought to what life will be like under jihadi leadership? Maybe you have dreams of being a jihadi bride.

Girl, I'm 59 years old, I heard the same shit with communism....sell this shit to your people, I'm not buying it.

 

[Blackrook]

Deadly Blast Rocks Wedding Ceremony In Turkey’s Gaziantep
President Erdogan said the suicide bomber was a child between 12 and 14 years old. These gotdamned motherfuckers are beyond crazy, beyond frying jews crazy....you can't win with people like this. Unless their muslim community as a whole join forces to stop this madness, look for this war to last another 17 years and then some.

Some of the rabid Jews tend to think that the Islamist are better than peace loving screwed up Christians that would rather not fight them but will most definitely defend their own.

If they actually believed that their God is all powerful why is it that they feel that they must force their will onto others? Is it that it really has nothing to do with faith and everything to do with their own desires to try to get and maintain control over that which they have no right to control?

Ever see Lawrence of Arabia? What business did great Britain have in the middle East?

Breaking up the Ottoman Empire and winning World War I.

 

[MikeK]

Girl, I'm 59 years old, I heard the same shit with communism....sell this shit to your people, I'm not buying it.

Communism was a political threat to the free world. Islam is a mortal threat to the Christian world.

Communism was defeated by manifest social progress. The only way we can defeat Islam is by embarking on the Tenth Crusade.

 

[aris2chat]

Aleppo was not about ISIS either. This is Assad killing his own people because he won't step down.

BS. It is about ISIS trying to overthrow the democratically elected government of Syria.

It did not begin with ISIS or radicalism. ISIS saw an opportunity, and opening, a vacuum and stepped in.
It took two years for ISIS to sow up in Syria. The group existed by few had even heard of them till 2013.

What happened in Syria was not about ISIS till they began to take across the northern syria.

Now in the news ISIS is the big media "word" and gets all the attention. Till '13-'14 they were insignificant. Now they have spread around the globe, because of syria. Opportunistic, but far from the cause of syria's conflict.

The civil war might have begun when Syria troops fired on protesters but the underline abuses and oppression had been going on for decades. I've been expecting this to happen since the '70s. After Libya I knew it was any day almost even before the street protests for change became wide spread.

There was a hope for promised change and liberties when Bashar took office but when syria was forced out of Lebanon the unrest and promised turned to more oppression, tightening of press and more arrests and torture.

Everyone was watching the arab spring in NA not looking at what had been happening in syria till Bashar ordered tanks to kill the civil protesters

Even my father when he was alive never believed it would go this far. This was a major point of disagreement. He thought it would never get that far. I had hoped there things would change but feared they would not years before Hariri's assassination and Cedar Revolution.

How did most people outside the middle east, and even those within, not see what was so obvious?

To me it was standing on the edge of the grand canyon. I was looking for safe path down, most people never even saw the canyon till it was too late.