this story doesn't do much for the "gays should adopt children" crusaders

[DudleySmith]

Really DudleySmith Fake news? That's all that you have to say? What the fuck is fake about it?

You've been shot down hundreds of times on it. Go back and read those threads, gimp. You just repeat the same old lies over and over, and nobody takes your sicko weaseling seriously. We're just here to mock you and laugh at your squealing BS. Stick to those other boards where you can snivel to your faggot mods and get people banned and your trolling left alone. All you posted here were actually just anecdotal rubbish from 'parents' and other crappy 'sources', most of them lies.

 

[DudleySmith]

How about that Utah hetero male minister who just killed his whole family?

How many did Gacy and Daumer kill? You think they should have been able to adopt kids.

 

[DudleySmith]

NAMBLA does not exist

Most kiddie rapes are by Heterosexuals

Of course it does, they just change names; they're still here and they're still proudly identifying as faggots as they always have, being a key part of the whole faggot 'culture'.

 

[notmyfault2020]

How many did Gacy and Daumer kill? You think they should have been able to adopt kids.

you mean Dahmer

 

[rightwinger]

Of course it does, they just change names; they're still here and they're still proudly identifying as faggots as they always have, being a key part of the whole faggot 'culture'.

Show me

Show where NAMBLA or any similar organization exists
Show me their leadership, where they meet, any members

NAMBLA is a RW fantasy

 

[Lastamender]

Show me

Show where NAMBLA or any similar organization exists
Show me their leadership, where they meet, any members

NAMBLA is a RW fantasy

It exists in the Oval office.

 

[rightwinger]

FAke news, and of course doesn't address what I said. Faggots commit 40 to 50% of kiddie rapes, and they make up around 2% of the population.

Linky, linky

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

FAke news, and of course doesn't address what I said. Faggots commit 40 to 50% of kiddie rapes, and they make up around 2% of the population. You're either stupid or you know you're deflecting. Only 'rights' hoax that has NAMBLA as a founding 'organization' and promoted by the Father of 'Gay Liberation' Harry Hay, also fondly remembered by Progressives everywhere, except they don't mention his NAMBLA WALKS WITH ME signs he wore in 'Pride' parades for years when a handful of dykes protested NAMBLA's frequent contingents in those.

Meet Pioneer of Gay Rights, Harry Hay

His should be a household name.

progressive.org

'Progressives' worship him as a hero. Note their gushing fluff piece never mentions his love for kiddies and their rapists at all for some reason; you probably can't figure out why, but many of us can .

You are relying on ancient history and selectively using what you think supports your bigoted beliefs , When you are done reading my post, I want you to tell meexactly what your screed and NAMBLA has to do with gay adoption in the year 2023

The fact is that you people are dangerous liars . It's this type of rhetoric that has gotten gay men killed. And if you actually believe your own bullshit, you have to be either crazy or stupid. Your claim only stands up if you can prove that gay men are committing a disproportionate number of child molestations relative to the straight population-which you cannot do.

Yes I said Gay Men, not pedophiles You don't seem to be able to understand, that there is a difference between gay men who have healthier adult relationships with other adults as opposed to those who are fixated on minors, or have regressed for some reason in that regard. In addition, every male who has sex with another male, whether an adult or minor is not a homosexual. I'm going to make an attempt to educate you although I'm not holding out much hope. Mostly I like doing this because even I can stand to learn more and I enjoy picking apart hateful propaganda like yours.

Let's start with your lie about NAMBLA. It was spawned by the early gay rights movement but what is left of it today -and that isn't much - is not a gay organization and has been rejected by gay advocacy groups:

NAMBLA describes itself as a "support group for intergenerational relationships," and uses the slogan "sexual freedom for all." According to the group's web site, its aim is to "support the rights of youth as well as adults to choose the partners with whom they wish to share and enjoy their bodies." Google Search of NAMBLA's IP

I vehemently disagree with their philosophy, as do the vast majority of adults, both gay and straight. Children do not have the mental or emotional capacity to make those choices and when an adult is involved, there is a high probability that the relationship will be coercive and unequal. You will see that nowhere in this lengthy piece is NAMBLA identified as a gay organization, nor does the organization itself even mention the issue of being gay.


History Brief history of the modern childlove movement

NAMBLA emerged from the tumultuous political atmosphere of the 1970s, particularly from the leftist wing of the Gay Liberation movement which followed the 1969 Stonewall Riots in New York City. Although discussion of gay adult-minor sex did take place, gay rights groups immediately following the Stonewall Riot were more concerned with issues of police harassment, nondiscrimination in employment, health care and other areas.
These were desperate days for the fledgling gay rights movement. Even then, the NAMBLA was consider a fringe group within the gay community

Ostracism

Some gay rights groups immediately following "Stonewall Inn", perceived age-of-consent laws as governmental tools to suppress homosexual behavior rather than as the safeguards against the sexual abuse of small children that they claimed to be. In many states that didn't explicitly criminalize homosexual behavior (the sodomy laws), age-of-consent laws were significantly lower for heterosexual couples than for homosexual couples. For example, in the state of Massachusetts, "Lawrence v. Texas", the age of consent for heterosexual couples was as low as 13 (with parental approval) but was 18 for homosexual men.

The relative acceptance or indifference to opposition of the age-of-consent began to change at the same time as accusations that gays were child pornographers and child molesters became common. Judianne Densen-Gerber, founder of the New York drug rehabilitation center Odyssey House, argued that gays were responsible for child pornography. In 1977 former beauty queen Anita Bryant staked a similar position, starting the "Save Our Children" campaign. "The recruitment of our children," she argued, "is absolutely necessary for the survival and growth of homosexuality."

You are dishonestly, or perhaps ignorantly, relying on ancient history by invoking NAMBLA

In 1980 a group called the “Lesbian Caucus – Lesbian Gay Pride March Committee” distributed a hand-out urging women to split from the annual New York City Gay Pride March because the organizing committee had supposedly been dominated by NAMBLA and its supporters. The next year, after some lesbians threatened to picket, the Cornell University gay group Gay PAC (Gay People at Cornell) rescinded its invitation to NAMBLA founder David Thorstad to be the keynote speaker at the annual May Gay Festival. And in the following years, gay rights groups attempted to block NAMBLA’s participation in gay pride parades, prompting Harry Hay to wear a sign proclaiming “NAMBLA walks with me” as he participated in a 1986 gay pride march in Los Angeles.

Thus by the mid-1980s, NAMBLA was virtually alone in its positions and found itself politically isolated. Gay rights organizations, burdened by accusations of child recruitment and child abuse, had abandoned the radicalism of their early years and had "retreat[ed] from the idea of a more inclusive politics," opting instead to appeal more to the mainstream. Support for "groups perceived as being on the fringe of the gay community," such as NAMBLA, vanished in the process. Today almost all gay rights groups disavow any ties to NAMBLA, voice disapproval of its objectives, and attempt to prevent NAMBLA from having a role in gay and lesbian rights events.

Here is more:

Gregory King of the Human Rights Campaign later said that "NAMBLA is not a gay organization ... They are not part of our community and we thoroughly reject their efforts to insinuate that pedophilia is an issue related to gay and lesbian civil rights." NAMBLA responded by claiming that "man/boy love is by definition homosexual," that "man/boy lovers are part of the gay movement and central to gay history and culture," and that "homosexuals denying that it is 'not gay' to be attracted to adolescent boys are just as ludicrous as heterosexuals saying it's 'not heterosexual' to be attracted to adolescent girls."
And more:

In 1994 the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) adopted a "Position Statement Regarding NAMBLA" saying GLAAD "deplores the North American Man Boy Love Association's (NAMBLA) goals, which include advocacy for sex between adult men and boys and the removal of legal protections for children. These goals constitute a form of child abuse and are repugnant to GLAAD." Also in 1994 the Board of Directors of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) adopted a resolution on NAMBLA that said: "NGLTF condemns all abuse of minors, both sexual and any other kind, perpetrated by adults. Accordingly, NGLTF condemns the organizational goals of NAMBLA and any other such organization."
Today

More recently, media reports have suggested that for practical purposes the group no longer exists and that it consists only of a web site maintained by a few enthusiasts. NAMBLA maintains a web site at NAMBLA that shows addresses in New York and San Francisco and a phone contact in New York, and offers publications for sale, including the NAMBLA Bulletin.

NAMBLA is identified as a lobby group in Jon Stewart's America: The Book A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction (2004), and is also alluded to on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, often tagged on to an existing lobby group's acronym for the parody.

Gay rights groups opposed to NAMBLA contend that their reason for disavowing NAMBLA has always been their sharing of the general public's disdain for pedophilia and child sexual abuse (as expressed in issues statements). These gay rights groups reject NAMBLA's claims of an analogy between the campaign for gay and lesbian equality and the abolition of age-of-consent laws, and view NAMBLA's rhetoric about "the sexual rights of youth" as a cover for its members' "real agenda".
Now read this and tell me that they are not a bunch of crazy sick fucks. I will tell you that few if any gay men agree with this tripe: Frequently Asked Questions About NAMBLA and Man/Boy Love

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Couple charged in death of boy they adopted in Texas

Two Texas parents are facing charges after the death of their adopted child Troy Khoeler, 7 in July.

www.kwtx.com

Ohio Couple Charged with Murder Nearly 6 Years After Death of Adopted 8-Year-Old Son

John Snyder II and wife Katherine Snyder were arrested during a court-supervised visit with their five other children after their son Adam died of blunt force trauma to the head in 2016

people.com

Arrested California Couple Charged in Killing of Their Two Adopted Boys

The suspects have been charged with two counts of second-degree murder, two counts of willful cruelty to a child and one count of false report of an emergency.

www.newsweek.com

Pennsylvania Couple Raped, Killed, and Chopped Up Disabled Adopted Daughter, Police Say

After a suicide pact gone wrong, a Pennsylvania couple has been charged with the rape, murder, and dismemberment of an adopted disabled 14-year-old girl.

www.thedailybeast.com

California megachurch elder and her parents charged with murder, torture of adopted 11-year-old daughter

Shortly after Arabella McCormack died Aug. 30, her father died by suicide in front of deputies who made contact with him near the family’s home.

www.nbcnews.com

These stories don't do much for those advocating for heterosexual adoption.

Did those Heterosexual couples have those children with the intent of abusing them? Homosexual couples DO have children with every desire and intention of abusing them.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

You've been shot down hundreds of times on it. Go back and read those threads, gimp. You just repeat the same old lies over and over, and nobody takes your sicko weaseling seriously. We're just here to mock you and laugh at your squealing BS. Stick to those other boards where you can snivel to your faggot mods and get people banned and your trolling left alone. All you posted here were actually just anecdotal rubbish from 'parents' and other crappy 'sources', most of them lies.

You seem to have some serious hate issues. It must be eating away at your insides. The world has changed you you can't deal with it. You're threatened and freaked out by it. I sort of feel sorry for you....but then again, not really

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Did those Heterosexual couples have those children with the intent of abusing them? Homosexual couples DO have children with every desire and intention of abusing them.

No ofcourse not. But some are unprepared to have children and it doesn't go well. In other cases, stress factors that were unforseen like relationship or ecomonic problems develop. So what exactly is the point of your question?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No ofcourse not. But some are unprepared to have children and it doesn't go well. In other cases, stress factors that were unforseen like relationship or ecomonic problems develop. So what exactly is the point of your question?

That there is no reason for homosexual couples to have children other than abuse them. The very nature of the adult child relationship is abusive.

 

[pknopp]

Did those Heterosexual couples have those children with the intent of abusing them? Homosexual couples DO have children with every desire and intention of abusing them.

I think you are projecting.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I think you are projecting.

I think you might have some homosexual tendencies.

 

[pknopp]

I think you might have some homosexual tendencies.

I've heard about this gaydar thing.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I've heard about this gaydar thing.

Mine is terrible but you scream so loud it's unmistakable.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

That there is no reason for homosexual couples to have children other than abuse them. The very nature of the adult child relationship is abusive.

Holy shit! Let me get this right. You are admitting, right here, infront of everyone, that you are so deranged, that you mind is so twisted, that you think that gay people just want kids so that they can abuse them? What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I think you are projecting.

I think that EvilCat Breath is a zombie troll bot that is dead and does not know it. It will try to eat your brains if you let it. Run!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I think that EvilCat Breath is a zombie troll bot that is dead and does not know it. It will try to eat your brains if you let it. Run!

And keep your ass running.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Adoption by same sex couples is quite common . You would think that there would bemany more such horror stories.

One anecdotal horor story does not make a case against adoption by gay people

LGBT Adoption Statistics & Facts | LifeLong Adoptions

LifeLong Adoptions promotes same sex adoption and is gay friendly agency. Find LGBT Adoption Statistics.

www.lifelongadoptions.com

And those kids do well:

Adopted children thrive in same-sex households, study shows

New research shows that children adopted into lesbian and gay families are as well-adjusted as children adopted by heterosexual parents, and follow similar patterns of gender development

www.apa.org

You can go now.

Your source is 12 years old.

You can go now.

Growing up with gay parents: What is the big deal?*

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

1.
A 2013 Canadian study (Allen 2013), which analyzed data from a very large population-based sample, revealed that the children of gay and lesbian couples are only about 65 percent as likely to have graduated from high school as are the children of married, opposite-sex couples.

2, A study of 174 primary school children in Australia (Sarantakos 1996) compared the social and educational development of 58 children living in married families, 58 living with cohabiting heterosexuals, and 58 living in homosexual unions. The authors found that married couples offer the best environment for a child's social and educational development, followed by cohabiting heterosexual couples and lastly by homosexual couples.

4.
A study (Sirota 2009) of 68 women with gay or bisexual fathers and 68 women with heterosexual fathers found a statistically significant difference between the two groups. The women (whose average age in both groups was 29) with gay or bisexual fathers had difficulty with adult attachment issues in three areas: (1) they were less comfortable with closeness and intimacy; (2) they were less able to trust and depend on others; and (3) they experienced more anxiety in relationships compared to the women raised by heterosexual fathers (and mothers).

7. A ground-breaking study from the University of Texas at Austin (Regnerus 2012) found that young-adult children (ages 18–39) of parents who had same-sex relationships before the subjects had reached the age of 18 were more likely to suffer from a broad range of emotional and social problems.

I could keep going, but you get the idea.