This tells you everything you need to know about the "classified document" hoax

[john doe 101]

You're ignorant of what is supposed to happen to presidential records when a president departs the WH. One more time...... you're ignorant!

They arent supposed to be hidden from the FBI that's for sure.

 

[john doe 101]

Could be ANYTHING in those boxes. You're telling me those boxes right there in that photo have classified documents, and that no scene like it has ever happened before?

Yes.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

its the GSA that does that for every president at the end.

You dumbfuck

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes.

Great reply...

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

They arent supposed to be hidden from the FBI that's for sure.

The FBI has nothing to do with the NARA or PRA.

 

[john doe 101]

Great reply...

I try to keep it simple for you dumb animals.

 

[Mac1958]

Let's review, shall we? In chronological order:

1. Around two years ago, the National Archives tried to verify that Trump had returned any classified documents. This was no big deal, since they knew documents may have accidentally been removed when Trump vacated the White House. It happens.
2. There were many, many communications back and forth. For months. They were told there were no more documents.
3. When they couldn't get Trump to act, the Archives gave up and turned the case over to the Justice Department.
4. The Justice Department contacted him, and once again, there were communications back and forth for months. They were told there were no more documents.
5. The Justice Department finally gave up and served a subpoena for the documents.
6. The Justice Department learned that he had not complied with the subpoena.
7. The Justice Department then went to a judge, and showed probable cause (they were clearly getting ACCURATE LEAKS from TRUMP'S PEOPLE) and got a warrant.
8. Upon executing the warrant, they discovered far more documents than they expected.
9. This is when they began to receive tips, and then testimony, from Trump employees about the hiding and moving of documents.
10. During this time Trump is waving these critical documents around to friends and admitting that he could no longer declassify them.
11. A Grand Jury was empaneled, a full investigation began, and through text messages, emails, actual voice recordings, sworn testimony of Trump employees and Trump attorneys, and attorney's notes, it was concluded that Trump and his employees conspired to lie about the existence of the documents, kept critical documents in bathrooms and ballrooms (no, really) and literally moved boxes of documents around so that they would not be discovered.
12. Trump was indicted, based on direct evidence and sworn testimony received from HIS OWN PEOPLE.

Anyone trying to compare or equate the above facts with what Pence or Biden have done is a blatant liar.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Your avatar is David Duke.

This shows what you are.

Trump broke the law.

.




Thank you for pointing that out. I had never seen the man.

How nice of you to do us all that service.




.

 

[Care4all]

You're ignorant of what is supposed to happen to presidential records when a president departs the WH. One more time...... you're ignorant!

Trump admitted in public He directed and took the National defense documents packed with his personal records, and he's claimed they were his.....

As I've said, trump really needs to keep his trap, shut. The case against him is stronger, due to his own mouth.

 

[Chillicothe]

"Let's review, shall we? In chronological order:"

See post #27.

Poster M'58 gave us a succinct chronological listing of the events. Of course, it can't have all the nuances that developed over those months of attempts to get the People's documents back. It's just a compact bullet-pointing of major developments and the reactions that they engendered.

One of the 'nuances' (actually, it ain't a nuance at all, it is a big friggin' deal!).....but what we all need to recognize is that staffers within the Trump orbit, some of them....maybe all of them (?)..... were on the grounds of Mar-A-Lago. And on multiple occasions were the ones dropping a dime on Don Trump's obstruction of the FBI's efforts with his shuffling the boxed documents around to keep them away from authorities.

Lemme repeat: "Trump's own people" - were snitching out his efforts to obstruct the FBI.

And that is just one of the aspects of this case that add credibility to the subpoena, the search warrant, and the charges within the indictment. The FBI and the DOJ had multiple 'Sherpas' on the inside giving them a heads-up. The FBI was being guided by insiders.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Trump admitted in public He directed and took the National defense documents packed with his personal records, and he's claimed they were his.....

As I've said, trump really needs to keep his trap, shut. The case against him is stronger, due to his own mouth.

And, Biden STOLE classified documents as a SENATOR, but hey that's DIFFERENT!!!!!!

 

[Care4all]

And, Biden STOLE classified documents as a SENATOR, but hey that's DIFFERENT!!!!!!

Nope!

Biden, even as a Senator on the Foreign Affairs committee, had classified clearance.

When his office was packed for his personal documents, the classified documents were likely boxed and sent to his home, office, or think tank office...

That's a mistake, not a criminal act. He did not knowingly take them them for his own personal use, as Trump did....and Trump admitted he did....

Nor did Biden refuse to return the classified documents, to the governnent.... As Trump did.

All Trump had to do, was return them....
but arrogantly and recklessly, he chose the criminal route instead.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Nope!

Biden, even as a Senator on the Foreign Affairs committee, had classified clearance.

When his office was packed for his personal documents, the classified documents were likely boxed and sent to his home, office, or think tank office...

That's a mistake, not a criminal act. He did not knowingly take them them for his own personal use, as Trump did....and Trump admitted he did....

Nor did Biden refuse to return the classified documents, to the governnent.... As Trump did.

All Trump had to do, was return them....
but arrogantly and recklessly, he chose the criminal route instead.

He didn't have "clearance" to STEAL THEM, and place them in CHINA TOWN, UPENN, or his FUCKING GARAGE!!!!!!!!
GTFOH!!!!!!

 

[Chillicothe]

That's a mistake, not a criminal act. He did not knowingly take them them for his own personal use, as Trump did....and Trump admitted he did......Nor did Biden refuse to return the classified documents, to the governnent.... As Trump did. All Trump had to do, was return them....
but arrogantly and recklessly, he chose the criminal route instead---

And therein lie the distinctions that makes a difference.
Trump knew he had 'em. He himself packed some of the boxes....per reportage on the indictment.
And Trump obstructed the People's efforts to get their secrets returned and properly secured.

 

[Mac1958]

The FBI was being guided by insiders.

As it turns out, there are degrees to which a person will sell their soul. Some folks have a limit.

Thank goodness.

 

[Care4all]

He didn't have "clearance" to STEAL THEM, and place them in CHINA TOWN, UPENN, or his FUCKING GARAGE!!!!!!!!
GTFOH!!!!!!

what part of being packed up by others and sent, by mistake, do you not understand?

 

[SeaMajor7]

what part of being packed up by others and sent, by mistake, do you not understand?

Why the FUCK is Trump not granted such "understanding"??????????
This TWO-TIERED BULLSHIT has to END!!!!!!!!
Have you even have a SHRED of SELF-AWARENESS to post THAT?!?!?!???

 

[Lesh]

what part of being packed up by others and sent, by mistake, do you not understand?

The part that f they don’t WANT to understand

 

[WorldWatcher]

Trump is the first president that this has happened to by the National Archives and Records Administration. The NARA boxed up records for all other prior presidents...

#1 The NARA doesn't pack boxes when a Presidents Administration ends, that would be the administration staff. Typically pack and designate the material for shipment.

#2 The GSA then contracts to move materials to locations designated by the outgoing administration. Personal items go to the Presidents home, Presidential records are then turned over to the NARA for inventory, control, and custody.

... and found proper facilities to put them in. For Trump, nothing!

#3 This is also false. Materials that were turned over to the NARA at the end of the administration, the 15 boxes (or so) that the NARA received in the spring of 2022, and Presidential Records seized under the search warrant (excluding those retained as evidence for criminal cases) - were transported and are being stored in a proper NARA facility in the D.C. area. To claim that the NARA isn't storing Trump Administration records in a proper facility is wrong. Where do you think the NARA is storing this material?

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Why the FUCK is Trump not granted such "understanding"??????????
This TWO-TIERED BULLSHIT has to END!!!!!!!!
Have you even have a SHRED of SELF-AWARENESS to post THAT?!?!?!???

He was, he has not been charged with any crime pertaining to documents he turned over the the NARA.

WW