Time is a funny thing

[Plasmaball]

Time is a funny thing when you watch how people conduct themselves. We are on the cusp of another civil war in Iraq. We have a few things going on here. We have some who blame Obama for pulling out. We have people who think we never should have been there at all. We have people who are sitting back and saying " we told you so". The last group being the most interesting to me, seeing how i am one of those people.

In the lead up to the war we had the supporters arguing that Saddam needed to be removed because he was a bad man, who had weapons, killed some people,and was linked to terrorists. Well we all know what happened with those three issues, so we wont go over those failures.

The other side who was saying we shouldn't go in because a civil war would break out, Saddam was keeping the terrorists out of Iraq, and basically had a tin army that wasn't going anywhere.

So what do we have now? An I told you so. We told you Saddam was keeping the region rather stable. We told you he wasn't connected to the terrorists ( i mean look they are attacking Iraq now). We told you a civil war would break out, and now this is the second one in less than ten years.

Yet because people wanted to win short term victories we went in. The left folded like the french army in WWI. So the reality is you wanted Saddam Removed, and this is the consequences of those actions.

I personally blame the people who decided it was the patriotic thing to do and go to war, or state you were with the terrorists. Good job, you literally wasted 5000 or so American lives so you could stick it to the left and put a win in your column. Well you were and are wrong.

Oh and i know, its all obamas fault now, because he wanted the terrorists to come in and take over, because they are his pals.

 

[whitehall]

What three issues do you consider "failures"? Bill Clinton told Americans that Saddam was developing WMD's. George Bush gave Saddam a year to comply with UN sanctions and 36% of democrat congress authorized boots on the ground and democrats undermined the Military mission for the next eight years. Saddam sent his air-force to Iran for safekeeping and the next thing you know Iran has nuclear capability. It doesn't take a fat assed "intelligence specialist" to conclude that Iraq sent it's WMD labs to Iran. Harry Truman downsized the US Military shortly after WW2 and was surprised that NK invaded SK. He sent Troops to Korea on an executive order so Korea was his baby. We lost 50,000 Troops in three years. We are in the same situation in Iraq only we have a president who is even dumber than the high school educated Truman.

 

[Plasmaball]

What three issues do you consider "failures"? Bill Clinton told Americans that Saddam was developing WMD's. George Bush gave Saddam a year to comply with UN sanctions and 36% of democrat congress authorized boots on the ground and democrats undermined the Military mission for the next eight years. Saddam sent his air-force to Iran for safekeeping and the next thing you know Iran has nuclear capability. It doesn't take a fat assed "intelligence specialist" to conclude that Iraq sent it's WMD labs to Iran. Harry Truman downsized the US Military shortly after WW2 and was surprised that NK invaded SK. He sent Troops to Korea on an executive order so Korea was his baby. We lost 50,000 Troops in three years. We are in the same situation in Iraq only we have a president who is even dumber than the high school educated Truman.

Partisan answer number 1!

 

[whitehall]

What three issues do you consider "failures"? Bill Clinton told Americans that Saddam was developing WMD's. George Bush gave Saddam a year to comply with UN sanctions and 36% of democrat congress authorized boots on the ground and democrats undermined the Military mission for the next eight years. Saddam sent his air-force to Iran for safekeeping and the next thing you know Iran has nuclear capability. It doesn't take a fat assed "intelligence specialist" to conclude that Iraq sent it's WMD labs to Iran. Harry Truman downsized the US Military shortly after WW2 and was surprised that NK invaded SK. He sent Troops to Korea on an executive order so Korea was his baby. We lost 50,000 Troops in three years. We are in the same situation in Iraq only we have a president who is even dumber than the high school educated Truman.

Partisan answer number 1!

Time is not a funny thing. It's just that the radical left has a selective memory.

 

[shart_attack]

Time is a funny thing when you watch how people conduct themselves. We are on the cusp of another civil war in Iraq. We have a few things going on here. We have some who blame Obama for pulling out. We have people who think we never should have been there at all. We have people who are sitting back and saying " we told you so". The last group being the most interesting to me, seeing how i am one of those people.

In the lead up to the war we had the supporters arguing that Saddam needed to be removed because he was a bad man, who had weapons, killed some people,and was linked to terrorists. Well we all know what happened with those three issues, so we wont go over those failures.

The other side who was saying we shouldn't go in because a civil war would break out, Saddam was keeping the terrorists out of Iraq, and basically had a tin army that wasn't going anywhere.

So what do we have now? An I told you so. We told you Saddam was keeping the region rather stable. We told you he wasn't connected to the terrorists ( i mean look they are attacking Iraq now). We told you a civil war would break out, and now this is the second one in less than ten years.

Yet because people wanted to win short term victories we went in. The left folded like the french army in WWI. So the reality is you wanted Saddam Removed, and this is the consequences of those actions.

I personally blame the people who decided it was the patriotic thing to do and go to war, or state you were with the terrorists. Good job, you literally wasted 5000 or so American lives so you could stick it to the left and put a win in your column. Well you were and are wrong.

Oh and i know, its all obamas fault now, because he wanted the terrorists to come in and take over, because they are his pals.

Indeed, time truly can be a funny thing.

Too bad for us that none of your posts ever are.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Time is a funny thing when you watch how people conduct themselves. We are on the cusp of another civil war in Iraq. We have a few things going on here. We have some who blame Obama for pulling out. We have people who think we never should have been there at all. We have people who are sitting back and saying " we told you so". The last group being the most interesting to me, seeing how i am one of those people.
In the lead up to the war we had the supporters arguing that Saddam needed to be removed because he was a bad man, who had weapons, killed some people,and was linked to terrorists. Well we all know what happened with those three issues, so we wont go over those failures.

The other side who was saying we shouldn't go in because a civil war would break out, Saddam was keeping the terrorists out of Iraq, and basically had a tin army that wasn't going anywhere.

We also had the group that was all aboard for regime change in 1998, but flipped because the occupant of the White House was a republican.

Lest you believe that I'm just bashing the democrats, we also had a president who flipped on his "humble foreign policy" and "no nation building" rhetoric, when he was running in 2000.

Plenty of blame to go around.

So what do we have now? An I told you so. We told you Saddam was keeping the region rather stable. We told you he wasn't connected to the terrorists ( i mean look they are attacking Iraq now). We told you a civil war would break out, and now this is the second one in less than ten years.

Yet because people wanted to win short term victories we went in. The left folded like the french army in WWI. So the reality is you wanted Saddam Removed, and this is the consequences of those actions.

I personally blame the people who decided it was the patriotic thing to do and go to war, or state you were with the terrorists. Good job, you literally wasted 5000 or so American lives so you could stick it to the left and put a win in your column. Well you were and are wrong.

Oh and i know, its all obamas fault now, because he wanted the terrorists to come in and take over, because they are his pals.

What we have now is somewhat the same situation that went on in Iran, circa 1979, less the American hostages and 5,000 war dead.

I'll grant that Obie inherited the situation, but he now looks like an incompetent, bungling nitwit, who promises to get back to us after a few rounds of golf this weekend.

It just does not get anymore detached than that.

 

[Plasmaball]

What three issues do you consider "failures"? Bill Clinton told Americans that Saddam was developing WMD's. George Bush gave Saddam a year to comply with UN sanctions and 36% of democrat congress authorized boots on the ground and democrats undermined the Military mission for the next eight years. Saddam sent his air-force to Iran for safekeeping and the next thing you know Iran has nuclear capability. It doesn't take a fat assed "intelligence specialist" to conclude that Iraq sent it's WMD labs to Iran. Harry Truman downsized the US Military shortly after WW2 and was surprised that NK invaded SK. He sent Troops to Korea on an executive order so Korea was his baby. We lost 50,000 Troops in three years. We are in the same situation in Iraq only we have a president who is even dumber than the high school educated Truman.

Partisan answer number 1!

Time is not a funny thing. It's just that the radical left has a selective memory.

number 2!

 

[Plasmaball]

Time is a funny thing when you watch how people conduct themselves. We are on the cusp of another civil war in Iraq. We have a few things going on here. We have some who blame Obama for pulling out. We have people who think we never should have been there at all. We have people who are sitting back and saying " we told you so". The last group being the most interesting to me, seeing how i am one of those people.
In the lead up to the war we had the supporters arguing that Saddam needed to be removed because he was a bad man, who had weapons, killed some people,and was linked to terrorists. Well we all know what happened with those three issues, so we wont go over those failures.

The other side who was saying we shouldn't go in because a civil war would break out, Saddam was keeping the terrorists out of Iraq, and basically had a tin army that wasn't going anywhere.

We also had the group that was all aboard for regime change in 1998, but flipped because the occupant of the White House was a republican.

Lest you believe that I'm just bashing the democrats, we also had a president who flipped on his "humble foreign policy" and "no nation building" rhetoric, when he was running in 2000.

Plenty of blame to go around.

So what do we have now? An I told you so. We told you Saddam was keeping the region rather stable. We told you he wasn't connected to the terrorists ( i mean look they are attacking Iraq now). We told you a civil war would break out, and now this is the second one in less than ten years.

Yet because people wanted to win short term victories we went in. The left folded like the french army in WWI. So the reality is you wanted Saddam Removed, and this is the consequences of those actions.

I personally blame the people who decided it was the patriotic thing to do and go to war, or state you were with the terrorists. Good job, you literally wasted 5000 or so American lives so you could stick it to the left and put a win in your column. Well you were and are wrong.

Oh and i know, its all obamas fault now, because he wanted the terrorists to come in and take over, because they are his pals.

What we have now is somewhat the same situation that went on in Iran, circa 1979, less the American hostages and 5,000 war dead.

I'll grant that Obie inherited the situation, but he now looks like an incompetent, bungling nitwit, who promises to get back to us after a few rounds of golf this weekend.

It just does not get anymore detached than that.

not our problem, thats cool, you blaming the left....Yawn

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Time is a funny thing when you watch how people conduct themselves. We are on the cusp of another civil war in Iraq. We have a few things going on here. We have some who blame Obama for pulling out. We have people who think we never should have been there at all. We have people who are sitting back and saying " we told you so". The last group being the most interesting to me, seeing how i am one of those people.
In the lead up to the war we had the supporters arguing that Saddam needed to be removed because he was a bad man, who had weapons, killed some people,and was linked to terrorists. Well we all know what happened with those three issues, so we wont go over those failures.

The other side who was saying we shouldn't go in because a civil war would break out, Saddam was keeping the terrorists out of Iraq, and basically had a tin army that wasn't going anywhere.

We also had the group that was all aboard for regime change in 1998, but flipped because the occupant of the White House was a republican.

Lest you believe that I'm just bashing the democrats, we also had a president who flipped on his "humble foreign policy" and "no nation building" rhetoric, when he was running in 2000.

Plenty of blame to go around.

So what do we have now? An I told you so. We told you Saddam was keeping the region rather stable. We told you he wasn't connected to the terrorists ( i mean look they are attacking Iraq now). We told you a civil war would break out, and now this is the second one in less than ten years.

Yet because people wanted to win short term victories we went in. The left folded like the french army in WWI. So the reality is you wanted Saddam Removed, and this is the consequences of those actions.

I personally blame the people who decided it was the patriotic thing to do and go to war, or state you were with the terrorists. Good job, you literally wasted 5000 or so American lives so you could stick it to the left and put a win in your column. Well you were and are wrong.

Oh and i know, its all obamas fault now, because he wanted the terrorists to come in and take over, because they are his pals.

What we have now is somewhat the same situation that went on in Iran, circa 1979, less the American hostages and 5,000 war dead.

I'll grant that Obie inherited the situation, but he now looks like an incompetent, bungling nitwit, who promises to get back to us after a few rounds of golf this weekend.

It just does not get anymore detached than that.

not our problem

Who be "our"?

 

[Plasmaball]

We also had the group that was all aboard for regime change in 1998, but flipped because the occupant of the White House was a republican.

Lest you believe that I'm just bashing the democrats, we also had a president who flipped on his "humble foreign policy" and "no nation building" rhetoric, when he was running in 2000.

Plenty of blame to go around.



What we have now is somewhat the same situation that went on in Iran, circa 1979, less the American hostages and 5,000 war dead.

I'll grant that Obie inherited the situation, but he now looks like an incompetent, bungling nitwit, who promises to get back to us after a few rounds of golf this weekend.

It just does not get anymore detached than that.

not our problem

Who be "our"?

merica

 

[HelenaHandbag]

not our problem

Who be "our"?

merica

Fine.

Then why not just come out and say so, when you are going to catch a ration of it no matter what you do, or do not do?

Bad enough to look detached, without also having feet of clay.

 

[Freewill]

Time is a funny thing when you watch how people conduct themselves. We are on the cusp of another civil war in Iraq. We have a few things going on here. We have some who blame Obama for pulling out. We have people who think we never should have been there at all. We have people who are sitting back and saying " we told you so". The last group being the most interesting to me, seeing how i am one of those people.

In the lead up to the war we had the supporters arguing that Saddam needed to be removed because he was a bad man, who had weapons, killed some people,and was linked to terrorists. Well we all know what happened with those three issues, so we wont go over those failures.

The other side who was saying we shouldn't go in because a civil war would break out, Saddam was keeping the terrorists out of Iraq, and basically had a tin army that wasn't going anywhere.

So what do we have now? An I told you so. We told you Saddam was keeping the region rather stable. We told you he wasn't connected to the terrorists ( i mean look they are attacking Iraq now). We told you a civil war would break out, and now this is the second one in less than ten years.

Yet because people wanted to win short term victories we went in. The left folded like the french army in WWI. So the reality is you wanted Saddam Removed, and this is the consequences of those actions.

I personally blame the people who decided it was the patriotic thing to do and go to war, or state you were with the terrorists. Good job, you literally wasted 5000 or so American lives so you could stick it to the left and put a win in your column. Well you were and are wrong.

Oh and i know, its all obamas fault now, because he wanted the terrorists to come in and take over, because they are his pals.

Partisan BS number 1!!!!

 

[Freewill]

Not sure what kind of answer you are looking for. Apparently if the answer, or response, isn't in agreement with your assessment you are going to claim partisanship.

Apparently on both sides there is little room for disagreement or compromise. The left I have to say is the worse. Because it was GWB the left finds no reason for the war and it isn't just a difference in opinion if you disagree with a liberal they immediately accuse a person of either partisanship or out right lying. And lo to the person who says something and it is not proven correct later.

Iraq is turning into a real mess. I don't know what we can or could have done or even if we should have done something. But I am pretty sure doing nothing will result in disaster.

 

[whitehall]

not our problem

Who be "our"?

merica

Can we get the freaking poster to argue about his post in more than one word? Grade school kids do better than that.

 

[Plasmaball]

Who be "our"?

merica

Fine.

Then why not just come out and say so, when you are going to catch a ration of it no matter what you do, or do not do?

Bad enough to look detached, without also having feet of clay.

i did....in my OP....

 

[HelenaHandbag]

merica

Fine.

Then why not just come out and say so, when you are going to catch a ration of it no matter what you do, or do not do?

Bad enough to look detached, without also having feet of clay.

i did....in my OP....

Were was the part about the 1998 resolution?

 

[Plasmaball]

Who be "our"?

merica

Can we get the freaking poster to argue about his post in more than one word? Grade school kids do better than that.

sure when you do more than puke up partisan talking points, which is all you ever do. Which i assume is your attempt at being a radio type personality, because they do it so well, so why cant you right?

 

[Plasmaball]

Fine.

Then why not just come out and say so, when you are going to catch a ration of it no matter what you do, or do not do?

Bad enough to look detached, without also having feet of clay.

i did....in my OP....

Were was the part about the 1998 resolution?

irrelevant since you know, we attacked them. Under Bush.

 

[Plasmaball]

Time is a funny thing when you watch how people conduct themselves. We are on the cusp of another civil war in Iraq. We have a few things going on here. We have some who blame Obama for pulling out. We have people who think we never should have been there at all. We have people who are sitting back and saying " we told you so". The last group being the most interesting to me, seeing how i am one of those people.

In the lead up to the war we had the supporters arguing that Saddam needed to be removed because he was a bad man, who had weapons, killed some people,and was linked to terrorists. Well we all know what happened with those three issues, so we wont go over those failures.

The other side who was saying we shouldn't go in because a civil war would break out, Saddam was keeping the terrorists out of Iraq, and basically had a tin army that wasn't going anywhere.

So what do we have now? An I told you so. We told you Saddam was keeping the region rather stable. We told you he wasn't connected to the terrorists ( i mean look they are attacking Iraq now). We told you a civil war would break out, and now this is the second one in less than ten years.

Yet because people wanted to win short term victories we went in. The left folded like the french army in WWI. So the reality is you wanted Saddam Removed, and this is the consequences of those actions.

I personally blame the people who decided it was the patriotic thing to do and go to war, or state you were with the terrorists. Good job, you literally wasted 5000 or so American lives so you could stick it to the left and put a win in your column. Well you were and are wrong.

Oh and i know, its all obamas fault now, because he wanted the terrorists to come in and take over, because they are his pals.

Partisan BS number 1!!!!

i already used that....but im flattered you wanted to copy me.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

i did....in my OP....

Were was the part about the 1998 resolution?

irrelevant since you know, we attacked them. Under Bush.

Yes, under Bush 41. With no significant change in policy for eight years of Clinton, then topped off with the 1998 resolution, making regime change in Iraq the official U.S. foreign policy stance.

As stated in my first post, there is plenty of blame to go around. But you are recalcitrant in accepting any on behalf of your team.