trump employee tells FBI that trump told him to move boxes out of storage to his residence at Mar-a-largo...even after subpoena!

[JimH52]

Your just a Trump hating moron . Get it all out , the butthurt must be killing you ...

He is a loser. If the MAGA repubs are stupid enough to nominate him again in 2024...he will lose again. He is a lying loser.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

He is a loser. If the MAGA repubs are stupid enough to nominate him again in 2024...he will lose again. He is a lying loser.

Biden is super ... extortion amplified ... moron .

 

[JimH52]

Biden is super ... extortion amplified ... moron .

And he beat the pants off your messiah....TOO FUNNY!

 

[Delldude]

Just to point out, the "SCIF" at MAL stopped existing when the POTUS because the FPOTUS. To be a "SCIF" an area must be certified, it must have access control, it is required to maintain access logs, and it requires that only authorized persons have access. For a person to be authorized they must meet two conditions: (A) the required security clearance, and (B) approved "need-to-know".

Those that we know had (or may) have had access to the country club basement include:

• The FFLOTUS (Former First Lady of the United States, who holds no clearance or need to know)
• The FPOTUS's children (who hold no clearance or need to know)
• The FPOTUS Staff (who hold no clearance or need to know)
• The FPOTUS Lawyers (who hold no clearance or need to know)
• MAL Service Staff (who hold no clearance or need to know and includes a number of foreign nationals)**
• MAL Maintenance Staff (who hold no clearance or need to know)
• Members of the Secret Service (who may have a clearance but no need to know)
• Then of course you have the FPOTUS himself who may or may not have a clearance, you would have to check with the current administration to see if that was suspended. But who does not have the 2nd requirement which is need to know for continued access since leaving office.

WW

Thats all swell, but no level of classification has been proven, other than the FBI leaks that ended when they were caught having cell phones in their SCIF.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

And he beat the pants off your messiah....TOO FUNNY!

Cheated and stole .

TikTok - Make Your Day

 

[WorldWatcher]

Thats all swell, but no level of classification has been proven, other than the FBI leaks that ended when they were caught having cell phones in their SCIF.

The classified documents were collected at MAL and have been inventoried. So yes, there is proof that classified documents were being illegally held at MAL. Just because they have not been released to the public doesn't mean there is no proof of the illegal activity.

WW

 

[JimH52]

Cheated and stole .

TikTok - Make Your Day

You really ARE that stupid...aren't you. I don't debate stupid people.

 

[JimH52]

The classified documents were collected at MAL and have been inventoried. So yes, there is proof that classified documents were being illegally held at MAL. Just because they have not been released to the public doesn't mean there is no proof of the illegal activity.

WW

No one wants a president that treats classified documents like yesterday's news paper. trump is a danger to the security of every man, woman, and child in this country. Who knows what has been leaked to adversarial nations or groups.

Garland needs to stop treating him with kid clothes and more like the criminal that he is.

 

[WorldWatcher]

No one wants a president that treats classified documents like yesterday's news paper. trump is a danger to the security of every man, woman, and child in this country. Who knows what has been leaked to adversarial nations or groups.

Garland needs to stop treating him with kid clothes and more like the criminal that he is.

I disagree. Garland needs to take the appropriate time needed to have a complete investigation and development of:

• Document review,
• Historical timeline of where, when, and how the documents were transported from the White House to MAL,
• Witness statements and affidavits under oath,
• Develop a complete and air tight case for possible prosecution that will stand up in court and leave no "reasonable doubt".

Only then should an indictment occur. The calls by many for "do it now" are simply the hope that mistakes will have been made which will allow the FPOTUS off the hook on technicalities or mistakes so they can point and say "he was innocent".

The FPOTUS should NOT be prosecuted based on public pressure, he should ONLY be prosecuted under the law.

Patience. My daughter has prosecuted criminal cases that seemed slam-dunk initially but took years to develop properly. She normally wins because of meticulous prep work.

WW

 

[Delldude]

The classified documents were collected at MAL and have been inventoried. So yes, there is proof that classified documents were being illegally held at MAL. Just because they have not been released to the public doesn't mean there is no proof of the illegal activity.

WW

Inventory stated 'classified' documents. Nothing has legally been proven whether or not they had been previously declassified.
Thus, there has been no proof of illegal activity.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Inventory stated 'classified' documents. Nothing has legally been proven whether or not they had been previously declassified.
Thus, there has been no proof of illegal activity.

As shown in court documents, not what is spread on social media, classified documents were recovered and they were marked as classified.

Judge Dearie then gave the FPOTUS legal team the chance to provide positive evidence that the documents in question were declassified by the FPOTUS while still in office as the POTUS. They refused.

He then indicated, based on the prima facia evidence, that the documents were indeed classified.

Not only did that occur but the FPOTUS himself admitted that the documents were classified because of the subpoena for classified documents in June. If he had declassified the documents as he said, then their would have been no documents to return in June, but he turned over a small number of documents because of the court order and didn't challenge the subpoena. In addition his staff, which is under his direction, continued to refer to and treat the documents as classified.

WW

 

[JimH52]

I disagree. Garland needs to take the appropriate time needed to have a complete investigation and development of:

• Document review,
• Historical timeline of where, when, and how the documents were transported from the White House to MAL,
• Witness statements and affidavits under oath,
• Develop a complete and air tight case for possible prosecution that will stand up in court and leave no "reasonable doubt".

Only then should an indictment occur. The calls by many for "do it now" are simply the hope that mistakes will have been made which will allow the FPOTUS off the hook on technicalities or mistakes so they can point and say "he was innocent".

The FPOTUS should NOT be prosecuted based on public pressure, he should ONLY be prosecuted under the law.

Patience. My daughter has prosecuted criminal cases that seemed slam-dunk initially but took years to develop properly. She normally wins because of meticulous prep work.

WW

I totally agree. Garland is a very by the book person. He will not indict until there is a 99.9% chance of conviction. Even then, the MAGA repubs will whine and cry and claim it is political. trump never owned the documents he stole. He needs to be held accountable or the next King wannabe will do the same or even worse.

 

[Delldude]

As shown in court documents, not what is spread on social media, classified documents were recovered and they were marked as classified.

Judge Dearie then gave the FPOTUS legal team the chance to provide positive evidence that the documents in question were declassified by the FPOTUS while still in office as the POTUS. They refused.

He then indicated, based on the prima facia evidence, that the documents were indeed classified.

Not only did that occur but the FPOTUS himself admitted that the documents were classified because of the subpoena for classified documents in June. If he had declassified the documents as he said, then their would have been no documents to return in June, but he turned over a small number of documents because of the court order and didn't challenge the subpoena. In addition his staff, which is under his direction, continued to refer to and treat the documents as classified.

WW

Up to the courts to prove they are classified. That has only been inferred.
The Drearie issue was based on his demand from Trump lawyers which would have forced them into providing testimony before any possible indictment had been filed. I believe Dearies actions are tied up in court.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Up to the courts to prove they are classified. That has only been inferred.
The Drearie issue was based on his demand from Trump lawyers which would have forced them into providing testimony before any possible indictment had been filed. I believe Dearies actions are tied up in court.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22671411/11th-circuit-says-doj-can-resume-criminal-probe-into-trumps-mar-a-lago.pdf

Nope, the courts already have the documents and Judge Drierie has decided they are classified. It is now up to the FPOTUS to actually claim they were declassified prior to noon on January 20, 2021 and show that he declassified them.

As to Judge Drearie action being tied up in court? No longer. As the 11th Circuit issued a ruling that basically said:

• The documents are classified,
• The documents are government property,
• That the FPOTUS has no ownership claim to the documents,
• and during the investigation the documents remain classified and the DOJ need not turn them over to the defense. (Of course arrangements will have to be made in the case of an indictment to get the defense the needed security clearance, but then only for the documents that the DOJ decide to use for prosecution. They do not need to use them all, they can prosecute only for selected documents.)

WW

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

You really ARE that stupid...aren't you. I don't debate stupid people.

Your just a hypocritical pussy . Bye

 

[JimH52]

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22671411/11th-circuit-says-doj-can-resume-criminal-probe-into-trumps-mar-a-lago.pdf

Nope, the courts already have the documents and Judge Drierie has decided they are classified. It is now up to the FPOTUS to actually claim they were declassified prior to noon on January 20, 2021 and show that he declassified them.

As to Judge Drearie action being tied up in court? No longer. As the 11th Circuit issued a ruling that basically said:

• The documents are classified,
• The documents are government property,
• That the FPOTUS has no ownership claim to the documents,
• and during the investigation the documents remain classified and the DOJ need not turn them over to the defense. (Of course arrangements will have to be made in the case of an indictment to get the defense the needed security clearance, but then only for the documents that the DOJ decide to use for prosecution. They do not need to use them all, they can prosecute only for selected documents.)

WW

trump is a criminal that needs to be indicted.

 

[Delldude]

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22671411/11th-circuit-says-doj-can-resume-criminal-probe-into-trumps-mar-a-lago.pdf

Nope, the courts already have the documents and Judge Drierie has decided they are classified. It is now up to the FPOTUS to actually claim they were declassified prior to noon on January 20, 2021 and show that he declassified them.

As to Judge Drearie action being tied up in court? No longer. As the 11th Circuit issued a ruling that basically said:

• The documents are classified,
• The documents are government property,
• That the FPOTUS has no ownership claim to the documents,
• and during the investigation the documents remain classified and the DOJ need not turn them over to the defense. (Of course arrangements will have to be made in the case of an indictment to get the defense the needed security clearance, but then only for the documents that the DOJ decide to use for prosecution. They do not need to use them all, they can prosecute only for selected documents.)

WW

Dearie's claims are by default by the Trump lawyers refusing to comply.

 

[Delldude]

trump is a criminal that needs to be indicted.

Guess the Biden family gets a pass?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Dearie's claims are by default by the Trump lawyers refusing to comply.

Dearies actions are not tied up in court anymore as the 11th Circuit ruled that the DOJ:

• does not have to turn classified documents over to the defense, and
• that the DOJ can continue to use the classified documents as part of their criminal investigation.

So while Judge Dearie put the FPOTUS legal team in a bind saying (to paraphrase) put-up or shut-up, the classified documents are no longer even part of the Special Master review. Then they whined to Judge Cannon saying (to paraphrase) "their being mean and we don't wanna". With the 11th ruling on the question of classified documents, as they are clearly classified government property, they are now outside the scope of his purpose.

It was a major loss for the FPOTUS as he (a) wanted them INCLUDED in the Special Master review as part of a delaying process for court proceedings, and (b) the DOJ was allowed to proceed with the criminal investigation surrounding the mishandling and the refusal to return the classified documents.

WW

 

[JimH52]

Dearies actions are not tied up in court anymore as the 11th Circuit ruled that the DOJ:

• does not have to turn classified documents over to the defense, and
• that the DOJ can continue to use the classified documents as part of their criminal investigation.

So while Judge Dearie put the FPOTUS legal team in a bind saying (to paraphrase) put-up or shut-up, the classified documents are no longer even part of the Special Master review. Then they whined to Judge Cannon saying (to paraphrase) "their being mean and we don't wanna". With the 11th ruling on the question of classified documents, as they are clearly classified government property, they are now outside the scope of his purpose.

It was a major loss for the FPOTUS as he (a) wanted them INCLUDED in the Special Master review as part of a delaying process for court proceedings, and (b) the DOJ was allowed to proceed with the criminal investigation surrounding the mishandling and the refusal to return the classified documents.

WW

Canon is a trump cult member. It is obvious she is pulling rulings out of her butt to please trump. Now she has been slapped down.