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Trump's demand that Mosques be closed -- Here's what Washington said in a letter to the Jews

Blackrook

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George Washington Letter

George Washington and his Letter to the Jews of Newport
The original of Washington’s Letter to the Hebrew Congregations of Newport, Rhode Island is small in size, but its impact on American life is immense. In 340 well-chosen words, the Letter reassures those who had fled religious tyranny that life in their new nation would be different, that religious “toleration” would give way to religious liberty, and that the government would not interfere with individuals in matters of conscience and belief. Quoting the Bible’s Old Testament, Washington writes,

“every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, and there shall be none to make him afraid.”
He continues:

For happily the Government of the United States gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.1

When he wrote this particular letter in August of 1790, the new President must have been aware of the effect it would have on the fledgling nation. He could not have known the extent of its influence today. The history behind Washington’s Letter not only gives us an understanding of the values of the early colonists and our Founding Fathers, but also insight into two fundamental tenets of American democracy: the separation of church and state, and the right of individuals to believe in and practice their religion.

Trump will destroy the basic fundamental right of this nation -- which is freedom to worship without government persecution.
 
I understand that Washington owned slaves, so look for demands that the Washington Monument, Washington D.C. and the State of Washington changes their names.
 
George Washington Letter

George Washington and his Letter to the Jews of Newport
The original of Washington’s Letter to the Hebrew Congregations of Newport, Rhode Island is small in size, but its impact on American life is immense. In 340 well-chosen words, the Letter reassures those who had fled religious tyranny that life in their new nation would be different, that religious “toleration” would give way to religious liberty, and that the government would not interfere with individuals in matters of conscience and belief. Quoting the Bible’s Old Testament, Washington writes,

“every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, and there shall be none to make him afraid.”
He continues:

For happily the Government of the United States gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.1

When he wrote this particular letter in August of 1790, the new President must have been aware of the effect it would have on the fledgling nation. He could not have known the extent of its influence today. The history behind Washington’s Letter not only gives us an understanding of the values of the early colonists and our Founding Fathers, but also insight into two fundamental tenets of American democracy: the separation of church and state, and the right of individuals to believe in and practice their religion.

Trump will destroy the basic fundamental right of this nation -- which is freedom to worship without government persecution.

Completely irrelevant to the current situation with Islam.

Sharia law in an integral part of Islam. Should that be permitted here as part of freedom to worship w/out government persecution? Make sure you study the subject a bit before answering.
 
There are one billion Muslims in the world. We can't win a war against all of them.
 
The US has been at war with various elements of Islam since Jefferson's time...
 
George Washington Letter

George Washington and his Letter to the Jews of Newport
The original of Washington’s Letter to the Hebrew Congregations of Newport, Rhode Island is small in size, but its impact on American life is immense. In 340 well-chosen words, the Letter reassures those who had fled religious tyranny that life in their new nation would be different, that religious “toleration” would give way to religious liberty, and that the government would not interfere with individuals in matters of conscience and belief. Quoting the Bible’s Old Testament, Washington writes,

“every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, and there shall be none to make him afraid.”
He continues:

For happily the Government of the United States gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.1

When he wrote this particular letter in August of 1790, the new President must have been aware of the effect it would have on the fledgling nation. He could not have known the extent of its influence today. The history behind Washington’s Letter not only gives us an understanding of the values of the early colonists and our Founding Fathers, but also insight into two fundamental tenets of American democracy: the separation of church and state, and the right of individuals to believe in and practice their religion.

Trump will destroy the basic fundamental right of this nation -- which is freedom to worship without government persecution.

When Christians, Jews, and atheists are no longer being persecuted and are able to live freely and equally in Muslim nations, we'll entertain the idea accepting Muslims into our nation.
 
There are one billion Muslims in the world. We can't win a war against all of them.
And 70% of the world is not Muslim. Who knows what might happen if we got our act together. Incidentally, China has recently declared war on Isis too.
 
Trump's antics and crazy talk is only making matters worse.


No, it's not.

Trump is one candidate in a Primary in the US.

The world is not on his shoulders.

IF all it takes to "make matters worse" is for one primary candidate to say something that hurts Muslims feelings then the Muslims and the World was trending that way anyways.

If Trump comes out tomorrow and has nice things to say about Muslims, would his great powerful words make the world a better place?

Or would the pebbles be swallowed by the Ocean without even a ripple?
 
Trump's antics and crazy talk is only making matters worse.
I'll take Donald Trump over Rick Santorum or Marco Rubio any day of the week. Both are establishment Republicans which are precisely the type of politicians that say one thing and do another. We do not need any more Establishment Republicans. God save us from such a day!
 
Trump's antics and crazy talk is only making matters worse.


hard to believe worse than two 110 story buildings coming down, humans burned alive, heads cut off living humans, rock concert slaughter etc.
This fails as a composition fallacy.

Neither American Muslims nor Syrian refugees were responsible for 9/11; and neither are responsible for the acts of terror committed by criminals who have misappropriated Islam, and who in no way represent all Muslims.

So yes, Trump and other hateful bigots who advocate 'registering' Muslims with the government and 'investigating' mosques are making matters worse, by inciting unwarranted hostility toward Muslims.
 
Trump's antics and crazy talk is only making matters worse.
I'll take Donald Trump over Rick Santorum or Marco Rubio any day of the week. Both are establishment Republicans which are precisely the type of politicians that say one thing and do another. We do not need any more Establishment Republicans. God save us from such a day!
Given his hatred, ignorance, and bigotry, we certainly don't need the likes of Trump.
 

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