Trump's "final offer" for peace requires Ukraine to accept Russian occupation

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘The U.S. expects Ukraine's response Wednesday to a peace framework that includes U.S. recognition of Crimea as part of Russia and unofficial recognition of Russian control of nearly all areas occupied since the 2022 invasion, sources with direct knowledge of the proposal tell Axios.

What Russia gets under Trump's proposal

"De jure" U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.

"De-facto recognition" of the Russia's occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.

A promise that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. The text notes that Ukraine could become part of the European Union.

The lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014.

Enhanced economic cooperation with the U.S., particularly in the energy and industrial’

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/22/trump-russia-ukraine-peace-plan-crimea-donbas

Trump wants to reward his friend and ally Putin for launching an illegal invasion killing thousands, including civilians; that Trump wants to appease a war criminal comes as no surprise, Trump’s a criminal himself – Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

 

[Concerned American]

‘The U.S. expects Ukraine's response Wednesday to a peace framework that includes U.S. recognition of Crimea as part of Russia and unofficial recognition of Russian control of nearly all areas occupied since the 2022 invasion, sources with direct knowledge of the proposal tell Axios.

What Russia gets under Trump's proposal

"De jure" U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.

"De-facto recognition" of the Russia's occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.

A promise that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. The text notes that Ukraine could become part of the European Union.

The lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014.

Enhanced economic cooperation with the U.S., particularly in the energy and industrial’

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/22/trump-russia-ukraine-peace-plan-crimea-donbas

Trump wants to reward his friend and ally Putin for launching an illegal invasion killing thousands, including civilians; that Trump wants to appease a war criminal comes as no surprise, Trump’s a criminal himself – Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

Let us not forget who was POTUS when his good buddy Putin unilaterally occupied Crimea. In case you forgot, that was Obama. Try again.

 

[sparky]

This is going to happen Trump or no Trump.......~S~

 

[MarathonMike]

Let us not forget who was POTUS when his good buddy Putin unilaterally occupied Crimea. In case you forgot, that was Obama. Try again.

And it was a weak, feckless Biden that gave Putin the green light to start the war. He said "hey no better time to strike than when the American President is demented. NO WAY Putin does that if Trump was in office.

 

[kyzr]

‘The U.S. expects Ukraine's response Wednesday to a peace framework that includes U.S. recognition of Crimea as part of Russia and unofficial recognition of Russian control of nearly all areas occupied since the 2022 invasion, sources with direct knowledge of the proposal tell Axios. What Russia gets under Trump's proposal. "De jure" U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.

Zelensky wants to keep Crimea or keep fighting.
Crimea was given to Ukraine by Khrushchev around 1954.
Crimea should be given back to Russia, Ukraine is not going to take it back.

"De-facto recognition" of the Russia's occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia. A promise that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. The text notes that Ukraine could become part of the European Union. The lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014.

Ok, fingers crossed on the NATO membership.

Enhanced economic cooperation with the U.S., particularly in the energy and industrial’
Trump wants to reward his friend and ally Putin for launching an illegal invasion killing thousands, including civilians; that Trump wants to appease a war criminal comes as no surprise, Trump’s a criminal himself – Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

So you want them to keep fighting? Tell Russia okay, but don't deal with them, duh.
I hope Trump walks away, then your talking points fall apart.

 

[Crepitus]

‘The U.S. expects Ukraine's response Wednesday to a peace framework that includes U.S. recognition of Crimea as part of Russia and unofficial recognition of Russian control of nearly all areas occupied since the 2022 invasion, sources with direct knowledge of the proposal tell Axios.

What Russia gets under Trump's proposal

"De jure" U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.

"De-facto recognition" of the Russia's occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.

A promise that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. The text notes that Ukraine could become part of the European Union.

The lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014.

Enhanced economic cooperation with the U.S., particularly in the energy and industrial’

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/22/trump-russia-ukraine-peace-plan-crimea-donbas

Trump wants to reward his friend and ally Putin for launching an illegal invasion killing thousands, including civilians; that Trump wants to appease a war criminal comes as no surprise, Trump’s a criminal himself – Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

Near as I can tell the only thing Ukraine gets from this deal is to lose.

 

[gtopa1]

‘The U.S. expects Ukraine's response Wednesday to a peace framework that includes U.S. recognition of Crimea as part of Russia and unofficial recognition of Russian control of nearly all areas occupied since the 2022 invasion, sources with direct knowledge of the proposal tell Axios.

What Russia gets under Trump's proposal

"De jure" U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.

"De-facto recognition" of the Russia's occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.

A promise that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. The text notes that Ukraine could become part of the European Union.

The lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014.

Enhanced economic cooperation with the U.S., particularly in the energy and industrial’

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/22/trump-russia-ukraine-peace-plan-crimea-donbas

Trump wants to reward his friend and ally Putin for launching an illegal invasion killing thousands, including civilians; that Trump wants to appease a war criminal comes as no surprise, Trump’s a criminal himself – Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

Nope; The Ukes do NOT have to accept the LEGALITY of the occupation of Crimea; just recognise that it is a de facto situation they really can't overcome...yet. How much will it cost to HOLD the "new lands" and repair it?? Think unifying as with Germany.

Greg

 

[elektra]

Trump wants to reward his friend and ally Putin for launching an illegal invasion killing thousands ...

no, Trump is ending the OBAMA-BIDEN-UKRAINE war and democrats dont like it

Democrats are angry a war is ending, a war democrats started

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Crimea is Russian. There was a vote. Forcibly making Crimea Ukrainian will result in a civil war bloodbath. Not only do Crimeans consider themselves Russian but they hate Ukrainians whom they consider communists.

 

[whitehall]

What's wrong with that? Most of the Ukies are Russian anyway.

 

[konradv]

Crimea is Russian. There was a vote. Forcibly making Crimea Ukrainian will result in a civil war bloodbath. Not only do Crimeans consider themselves Russian but they hate Ukrainians whom they consider communists.

You trust Ruzzian elections, but not Americans?! Shows you how low MAGA will go to undermine the republic.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You trust Ruzzian elections, but not Americans?! Shows you how low MAGA will go to undermine the republic.

You propose a dictatorship and tyranny? Force ethnic Russians back to Ukraine and they will be massacres in the streets. This, to you, is better than an election. What will happen is a new front opening in the Russian - Ukrainian war.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Let us not forget who was POTUS when his good buddy Putin unilaterally occupied Crimea. In case you forgot, that was Obama. Try again.

Putin didn't occupy Crimea. Crimea was always Russian. That's what the vote was all about.

 

[bendog]

And it was a weak, feckless Biden that gave Putin the green light to start the war. He said "hey no better time to strike than when the American President is demented. NO WAY Putin does that if Trump was in office.

yeah right. Russia has done very well. Love Don.

 

[Dante]

‘The U.S. expects Ukraine's response Wednesday to a peace framework that includes U.S. recognition of Crimea as part of Russia and unofficial recognition of Russian control of nearly all areas occupied since the 2022 invasion, sources with direct knowledge of the proposal tell Axios.

What Russia gets under Trump's proposal

"De jure" U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.

"De-facto recognition" of the Russia's occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.

A promise that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. The text notes that Ukraine could become part of the European Union.

The lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014.

Enhanced economic cooperation with the U.S., particularly in the energy and industrial’

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/22/trump-russia-ukraine-peace-plan-crimea-donbas

Trump wants to reward his friend and ally Putin for launching an illegal invasion killing thousands, including civilians; that Trump wants to appease a war criminal comes as no surprise, Trump’s a criminal himself – Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

Amusing: "Trump's "final offer" for peace"

s if Trump is in charge of offering up a peace deal.

He may insert himself and be a broker, but...

Trump is still pissed he never received a Nobel like Obama did

 

[martybegan]

Near as I can tell the only thing Ukraine gets from this deal is to lose.

They are already slowly losing.

 

[martybegan]

Putin didn't occupy Crimea. Crimea was always Russian. That's what the vote was all about.

It was Ukrainian in 2014, and they sent troops in.

They may end up with it, but they didn't start with it.

 

[Mac-7]

Near as I can tell the only thing Ukraine gets from this deal is to lose.

Ukraine gets to keep the rest of their country

 

[bendog]

Trump has already tossed Ukraine under da bus, so his whining "Vladimer please stop" would be amusing if people weren't dying since he already gave "Vladimer" what he wanted - an unarmed ukraine.

But Biden should have told these apparently deluded folks that they didn't win, they won't win, and make the damn deal because, unless the EU wants to kick in billions of weapons they don't have and cannot currently make, it's the only deal on the table.

 

[kyzr]

It was Ukrainian in 2014, and they sent troops in.
They may end up with it, but they didn't start with it.

Khrushchev gave Crimea to Ukraine in 1954, before that it was Russian.
Putin wants to take all parts of Ukraine that speaks primarily Russian.