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Libbies dont much like the law. They find it the gravest affront when law enforcement seeks to determine if anything is amiss. They are selfish, putting their own feelings above the facts of society’s general well being
Massive overreaction is a liberal starting point on most issuesLibbies dont much like the law. They find it the gravest affront when law enforcement seeks to determine if anything is amiss. They are selfish, putting their own feelings above the facts of society’s general well being
You're not wrong.
I'm still not saying I necessarily agree with the officer's behavior, and I think it's a good thing that the Border Patrol is looking into it. I'm just saying this whole "outrageous Constitutional crisis" horseshit is a massive overreaction.
No it's you regressives that claim a law enforcement officer doing his job, in a professional manner, is somehow doing something wrong. He asked for ID, verified the ID was genuine and sent them on their way. Many illegals are using stolen IDs. Also when are you regressives going to learn that Mexican isn't a race, it's a nationality. Did you notice the one woman couldn't even pronounce "profiling" correctly?
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Which he is not allowed to do. Speaking Spanish is not a crime. HE had no right to ask for a ID.
Actually he did, they were within a border control zone. Border Patrol can question anyone within them.
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It's been upheld by the Supreme Court. Did you not read the town is close to the Canadian border?
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So what. Does that mean NY can suspend the 2nd Amendment. It is close to the border. there was no cause to stop these women.
Funny how stupid people make stupid statements even after being presented the facts. Get back to me after you finished your border patrol training.
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You seem to believe in Constitution free zones. I don't need to learn how to be a jack booted thug.
Not a lot of illegals, criminals and scumbags in airports so no drum to bang for libbiesWhich he is not allowed to do. Speaking Spanish is not a crime. HE had no right to ask for a ID.
Actually he did, they were within a border control zone. Border Patrol can question anyone within them.
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It's been upheld by the Supreme Court. Did you not read the town is close to the Canadian border?
Amendment
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So what. Does that mean NY can suspend the 2nd Amendment. It is close to the border. there was no cause to stop these women.
Funny how stupid people make stupid statements even after being presented the facts. Get back to me after you finished your border patrol training.
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You seem to believe in Constitution free zones. I don't need to learn how to be a jack booted thug.
Do you fly? Airports are truly Constitution free zones. But that's different, right?
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Which he is not allowed to do. Speaking Spanish is not a crime. HE had no right to ask for a ID.
Actually he did, they were within a border control zone. Border Patrol can question anyone within them.
View attachment 194794
It's been upheld by the Supreme Court. Did you not read the town is close to the Canadian border?
Amendment
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So what. Does that mean NY can suspend the 2nd Amendment. It is close to the border. there was no cause to stop these women.
Funny how stupid people make stupid statements even after being presented the facts. Get back to me after you finished your border patrol training.
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You seem to believe in Constitution free zones. I don't need to learn how to be a jack booted thug.
Do you fly? Airports are truly Constitution free zones. But that's different, right?
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U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
So...it is totally acceptable to detain American citizens going about their business because they speak Spanish. Just wanted to confirm the new "American" standards. Gotcha!U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
Wow, a whole 35 minutes. Good thing they didn't go through an airport, that would have been 45 minutes standing in line.
There is nothing wrong with checking. There are literally MILLIONS of illegals in our country. We have to be vigilant if we want to get rid of them.Yet you decide to excuse two US citizens being detained for speaking Spanish. Even after providing proof of citizenship. You stupid, boot-licking piece of shitThat’s not the point, dipshit. Two US citizens were racially profiled and detained for speaking Spanish after providing proof af citizenship. And this happened in the United States at a store in Montana.Wow, a whole 35 minutes. Good thing they didn't go through an airport, that would have been 45 minutes standing in line.
Do you rinse after licking boots, or do you enjoy the taste?
Yet you decide to highlight the whole 35 minutes spent in the parking lot...dumbass.
Yes, we should get used to showing our papers just like they do in those bastions of freedom like Russia and the old East Germany.
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So...it is totally acceptable to detain American citizens going about their business because they speak Spanish. Just wanted to confirm the new "American" standards. Gotcha!U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
Wow, a whole 35 minutes. Good thing they didn't go through an airport, that would have been 45 minutes standing in line.
There is nothing wrong with checking. There are literally MILLIONS of illegals in our country. We have to be vigilant if we want to get rid of them.Yet you decide to excuse two US citizens being detained for speaking Spanish. Even after providing proof of citizenship. You stupid, boot-licking piece of shitThat’s not the point, dipshit. Two US citizens were racially profiled and detained for speaking Spanish after providing proof af citizenship. And this happened in the United States at a store in Montana.
Do you rinse after licking boots, or do you enjoy the taste?
Yet you decide to highlight the whole 35 minutes spent in the parking lot...dumbass.
Yes, we should get used to showing our papers just like they do in those bastions of freedom like Russia and the old East Germany.
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It’s time to get aggressive..stop being such pussies. Good people are fed-up with funding illegal wetbacks and their litters of money trees.
How else do you eradicate 12 million human cockroaches?
It’s time to stop and identify.
Actually he did, they were within a border control zone. Border Patrol can question anyone within them.
View attachment 194794
It's been upheld by the Supreme Court. Did you not read the town is close to the Canadian border?
Amendment
.
So what. Does that mean NY can suspend the 2nd Amendment. It is close to the border. there was no cause to stop these women.
Funny how stupid people make stupid statements even after being presented the facts. Get back to me after you finished your border patrol training.
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You seem to believe in Constitution free zones. I don't need to learn how to be a jack booted thug.
Do you fly? Airports are truly Constitution free zones. But that's different, right?
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True. Just TRY asking a TSA agent what his probable cause is for demanding that you take off your shoes and run them through the scanner. Those assholes have NO sense of humor.
No, 35 seconds isnt enough time to determine if they are legal residents. I think anything up to a fews hours is appropriate.Detention for 35 seconds was unwarranted.
You cannot just stop people on the street and ask for their papers. They broke no laws.
Really? Show me the law that says a Border Patrol officer can't initiate a conversation and make a polite request for ID (and no, calling a driver's license "your papers" does not make it sound ominous, it just makes you sound like a moron), or that those women didn't have every right to politely decline.
A uniformed officer comes up to you and asks for a ID. You are the one who sounds like a moron and jack booted thug to boot. They broke no law and the officer in question did not say they did not have to give up their ID.
I don't have a guilty conscience, nor am I a trantrum-throwing drama queen, so law enforcement officers hold no fear for me. Neither does conversing with them, or politely asserting my rights (largely because, unlike you, I actually know what they are). They're human beings, not ogres. Get a grip.
Furthermore, OF COURSE he didn't tell them they didn't have to give him their ID. He's not their lawyer; it's not his job to give them legal advice on their rights. If the fucking rights are so g*damn important to them, the way they and you and every other hyperemotional snowflake around here keeps screeching, shouldn't they - and you - at least take the trouble to KNOW them?
Law enforcement pretty much counts on criminals, and people in general, to be stupid. Why are you doing it?
So...it is totally acceptable to detain American citizens going about their business because they speak Spanish. Just wanted to confirm the new "American" standards. Gotcha!U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
Wow, a whole 35 minutes. Good thing they didn't go through an airport, that would have been 45 minutes standing in line.
There is nothing wrong with checking. There are literally MILLIONS of illegals in our country. We have to be vigilant if we want to get rid of them.Yet you decide to excuse two US citizens being detained for speaking Spanish. Even after providing proof of citizenship. You stupid, boot-licking piece of shitYet you decide to highlight the whole 35 minutes spent in the parking lot...dumbass.
Yes, we should get used to showing our papers just like they do in those bastions of freedom like Russia and the old East Germany.
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It’s time to get aggressive..stop being such pussies. Good people are fed-up with funding illegal wetbacks and their litters of money trees.
How else do you eradicate 12 million human cockroaches?
It’s time to stop and identify.
Damn dude, you were born about 100 years too late, you would have made one hell of a Nazi! They liked to stop and ask people for their papers all the time as well.
When you take a dump, do you wipe your ass with copies of the constitution?
No, 35 seconds isnt enough time to determine if they are legal residents. I think anything up to a fews hours is appropriate.
You cannot just stop people on the street and ask for their papers. They broke no laws.
Really? Show me the law that says a Border Patrol officer can't initiate a conversation and make a polite request for ID (and no, calling a driver's license "your papers" does not make it sound ominous, it just makes you sound like a moron), or that those women didn't have every right to politely decline.
A uniformed officer comes up to you and asks for a ID. You are the one who sounds like a moron and jack booted thug to boot. They broke no law and the officer in question did not say they did not have to give up their ID.
I don't have a guilty conscience, nor am I a trantrum-throwing drama queen, so law enforcement officers hold no fear for me. Neither does conversing with them, or politely asserting my rights (largely because, unlike you, I actually know what they are). They're human beings, not ogres. Get a grip.
Furthermore, OF COURSE he didn't tell them they didn't have to give him their ID. He's not their lawyer; it's not his job to give them legal advice on their rights. If the fucking rights are so g*damn important to them, the way they and you and every other hyperemotional snowflake around here keeps screeching, shouldn't they - and you - at least take the trouble to KNOW them?
Law enforcement pretty much counts on criminals, and people in general, to be stupid. Why are you doing it?
I hold my Constitutional rights as very dear. Violating people's constitutional rights does hold fear to me because I could be the victim. Being stopped and asked for a ID is not a conversation. ICE regularly uses questionable tactics. They were recently told by a federal judge that they were liars because they falsely accused a DACA recipient of being a part of MS-13.
To Deport a Dreamer, ICE Claimed He Was “Gang-Affiliated.” A Federal Judge Ruled That ICE Was Lying.
ICE Agents Manhandle NY Farmer, Break His Phone After Warrantless Arrest
He had no right to ask them for their ID. He had no right to keep them there for 35 minutes after that.
Corrupt cops rely on stupid people like you to look the other way and make excuses. Why are you doing it?
No, 35 seconds isnt enough time to determine if they are legal residents. I think anything up to a fews hours is appropriate.
You cannot just stop people on the street and ask for their papers. They broke no laws.
Really? Show me the law that says a Border Patrol officer can't initiate a conversation and make a polite request for ID (and no, calling a driver's license "your papers" does not make it sound ominous, it just makes you sound like a moron), or that those women didn't have every right to politely decline.
A uniformed officer comes up to you and asks for a ID. You are the one who sounds like a moron and jack booted thug to boot. They broke no law and the officer in question did not say they did not have to give up their ID.
I don't have a guilty conscience, nor am I a trantrum-throwing drama queen, so law enforcement officers hold no fear for me. Neither does conversing with them, or politely asserting my rights (largely because, unlike you, I actually know what they are). They're human beings, not ogres. Get a grip.
Furthermore, OF COURSE he didn't tell them they didn't have to give him their ID. He's not their lawyer; it's not his job to give them legal advice on their rights. If the fucking rights are so g*damn important to them, the way they and you and every other hyperemotional snowflake around here keeps screeching, shouldn't they - and you - at least take the trouble to KNOW them?
Law enforcement pretty much counts on criminals, and people in general, to be stupid. Why are you doing it?
I hold my Constitutional rights as very dear. Violating people's constitutional rights does hold fear to me because I could be the victim. Being stopped and asked for a ID is not a conversation. ICE regularly uses questionable tactics. They were recently told by a federal judge that they were liars because they falsely accused a DACA recipient of being a part of MS-13.
To Deport a Dreamer, ICE Claimed He Was “Gang-Affiliated.” A Federal Judge Ruled That ICE Was Lying.
ICE Agents Manhandle NY Farmer, Break His Phone After Warrantless Arrest
He had no right to ask them for their ID. He had no right to keep them there for 35 minutes after that.
Corrupt cops rely on stupid people like you to look the other way and make excuses. Why are you doing it?
Rights are only for white people.
What rights were actually violated? I wasn't aware ANYONE had a right to never be spoken to by law enforcement.
Start with the 4th Amendment. Illegal search and seizure. The agent had no probable cause for detaining them for even 2 minutes.
Start with where having a conversation is not "detaining", and CERTAINLY isn't searching or seizing, and then explain to me what the fuck the 4th Amendment has to do with it, other than your vague notion that anything you don't like MUST be "Unconstitutional".
They did not have a conversation. Illegal search and seizure is exactly what Joe ARPAIO was found guilty of when he stopped people with no probable cause. You are the one who believes that anything you like is constitutional and anything you don't like is unconstitutional.
Oh, my holy God, WOULD you stop conflating unrelated shit and topic-hopping hither and yon, you hysterical fruitcake?!
1) They didn't have a conversation? Were you watching the same video? Three human beings communicated in words back and forth to each other. What do you call that? 'Cause in Reality Land, that'd be a conversation.
2) What the righteous fuck does Joe Arpaiohave to do with anything? Not only was Arpaio a sheriff in a whole 'nother state, on the whole other side of the country from Montana, he's also not even in office any more.
3) What does search and seizure have to do with this? Was someone searched? Was their property seized?
4) The only reasons that I believe the things I like are Constitutional are because a) I actually know the Constitution, and b) I don't think with my glands, unlike some people, so what I like actually bears some resemblance to reality.
Give producing a coherent argument another try, sweetpea, because my 9-year-old could have done better than this.
U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
Rights are only for white people.
What rights were actually violated? I wasn't aware ANYONE had a right to never be spoken to by law enforcement.
Start with the 4th Amendment. Illegal search and seizure. The agent had no probable cause for detaining them for even 2 minutes.
Start with where having a conversation is not "detaining", and CERTAINLY isn't searching or seizing, and then explain to me what the fuck the 4th Amendment has to do with it, other than your vague notion that anything you don't like MUST be "Unconstitutional".
They did not have a conversation. Illegal search and seizure is exactly what Joe ARPAIO was found guilty of when he stopped people with no probable cause. You are the one who believes that anything you like is constitutional and anything you don't like is unconstitutional.
Actually he was found guilty of contempt of court.
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So...it is totally acceptable to detain American citizens going about their business because they speak Spanish. Just wanted to confirm the new "American" standards. Gotcha!U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
Wow, a whole 35 minutes. Good thing they didn't go through an airport, that would have been 45 minutes standing in line.
There is nothing wrong with checking. There are literally MILLIONS of illegals in our country. We have to be vigilant if we want to get rid of them.Yet you decide to excuse two US citizens being detained for speaking Spanish. Even after providing proof of citizenship. You stupid, boot-licking piece of shit
Yes, we should get used to showing our papers just like they do in those bastions of freedom like Russia and the old East Germany.
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It’s time to get aggressive..stop being such pussies. Good people are fed-up with funding illegal wetbacks and their litters of money trees.
How else do you eradicate 12 million human cockroaches?
It’s time to stop and identify.
Damn dude, you were born about 100 years too late, you would have made one hell of a Nazi! They liked to stop and ask people for their papers all the time as well.
When you take a dump, do you wipe your ass with copies of the constitution?
Like all good, smart, REAL American people...I’ve realized our nation is being stolen, our people are being used and suckered by wetbacks. It’s time we take an ‘any means necessary’ approach to ridding ourselves of the thirdworld filth. Don’t be scared, your balls will eventually drop too.
Here’s a little something to enlighten your sorry nutless ass. All states with the balls to use ‘stop and identify’. You love state rights...no?
U.S. Citizens Say They Were Detained By Border Patrol Agent For ‘Speaking Spanish’
Two U.S. citizens said they were detained last week by a Border Patrol agent in Montana after he overheard them speaking Spanish to each other in a convenience store.
Ana Suda and Mimi Hernandez said they’d popped into the store in Havre, a small town near the border with Canada, early Wednesday morning when they were approached by a uniformed Border Patrol agent, KRTV reported.
The two women, who are Mexican American, had been chatting in Spanish while waiting in line to pay for eggs and milk when ― to their incredulity ― the agent asked them for their IDs.
Suda told MTN News that even after seeing their IDs, the agent did not let them leave the parking lot for about 35 minutes.
They said they were detained? Well, then it must be true the. On the other hand, OMG, my maid said her hairdresser's sister heard that several Mexicans walked into the United States in front of California Troopers, and they gave them a ride into town. What is the world coming to?
You cannot just stop people on the street and ask for their papers. They broke no laws.
Really? Show me the law that says a Border Patrol officer can't initiate a conversation and make a polite request for ID (and no, calling a driver's license "your papers" does not make it sound ominous, it just makes you sound like a moron), or that those women didn't have every right to politely decline.
A uniformed officer comes up to you and asks for a ID. You are the one who sounds like a moron and jack booted thug to boot. They broke no law and the officer in question did not say they did not have to give up their ID.
I don't have a guilty conscience, nor am I a trantrum-throwing drama queen, so law enforcement officers hold no fear for me. Neither does conversing with them, or politely asserting my rights (largely because, unlike you, I actually know what they are). They're human beings, not ogres. Get a grip.
Furthermore, OF COURSE he didn't tell them they didn't have to give him their ID. He's not their lawyer; it's not his job to give them legal advice on their rights. If the fucking rights are so g*damn important to them, the way they and you and every other hyperemotional snowflake around here keeps screeching, shouldn't they - and you - at least take the trouble to KNOW them?
Law enforcement pretty much counts on criminals, and people in general, to be stupid. Why are you doing it?
I hold my Constitutional rights as very dear. Violating people's constitutional rights does hold fear to me because I could be the victim. Being stopped and asked for a ID is not a conversation. ICE regularly uses questionable tactics. They were recently told by a federal judge that they were liars because they falsely accused a DACA recipient of being a part of MS-13.
To Deport a Dreamer, ICE Claimed He Was “Gang-Affiliated.” A Federal Judge Ruled That ICE Was Lying.
ICE Agents Manhandle NY Farmer, Break His Phone After Warrantless Arrest
He had no right to ask them for their ID. He had no right to keep them there for 35 minutes after that.
Corrupt cops rely on stupid people like you to look the other way and make excuses. Why are you doing it?
Oh come on. Because the officer believed the person was something they were not, is 'corruption'?
I don't think so. Let me guess... you are the one individual on the face of the Earth, that never once thought something about someone else, that turned out to be false?
You are the one perfect person on the planet. Got it. If only the rest of us could be at your level of perfection, we would never have any mistakes again.