UH OH! We could be in real trouble!

May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge
The civilian one I get these days is supposed to protect against 4 specific strains that were picked early (in order to get the number of doses in production and distribution) sometimes better than other on certain flus A, Flu B and maybe another that somebody somewhere thought to be on the rise before the real flu season hits. Military that I know tell me theirs is based on 6 varieties, basically picked the same way. Years ago before military, I used to get a good case of flu, sometime making me very sick, but not requiring hospitial, only doctor visit, which didn't really seem to help get rid of it any faster. After initial military amniovirus, and range of shots and updates yearly, as well as whatever they stuck in my arm for overseas trips, I quit getting serious flu enough to miss work and have continued year after year with no flu or very mild flu ever since. If you have no allergic or any other type of systemic reaction to vaccinations, I highly recommend you keep current.
The fact is that more people who get flu shots get the flu than those who do not, which is because the rate of people getting the shot who get sick from it is higher than those who would get the flu if they did not get the shot and because no flu shot protects against the current strain.

Grow up fool. Are you really stupid enough to believe that the military has different shots

Try putting a shotgun to your head for a shot
I have a shot record book, that is thicker than the Holy Bible, from all the times I had to travel overseas with my father when he was stationed at different places....

never caught a single thing I was vaccinated for..... flu with 1 exception, small pox, typhoid, typhus, measles etc etc etc
The vaccinations that are mandated work. Seriously kid 80,000 Americans died of the flu in 2018, and yet the flu shot is not mandatory, why?

Answer because if it was made mandatory the people who got the flu after the shot would sue and win and the government knows this so only voluntary suckers are needed
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

A few weeks ago I posted about South Korea reporting that some that were once sick and infected tested Positive again afterwards. Scary stuff.
They proved that wrong as all they were detecting was viral fragments along with immunity
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge
The civilian one I get these days is supposed to protect against 4 specific strains that were picked early (in order to get the number of doses in production and distribution) sometimes better than other on certain flus A, Flu B and maybe another that somebody somewhere thought to be on the rise before the real flu season hits. Military that I know tell me theirs is based on 6 varieties, basically picked the same way. Years ago before military, I used to get a good case of flu, sometime making me very sick, but not requiring hospitial, only doctor visit, which didn't really seem to help get rid of it any faster. After initial military amniovirus, and range of shots and updates yearly, as well as whatever they stuck in my arm for overseas trips, I quit getting serious flu enough to miss work and have continued year after year with no flu or very mild flu ever since. If you have no allergic or any other type of systemic reaction to vaccinations, I highly recommend you keep current.
The fact is that more people who get flu shots get the flu than those who do not, which is because the rate of people getting the shot who get sick from it is higher than those who would get the flu if they did not get the shot and because no flu shot protects against the current strain.

Grow up fool. Are you really stupid enough to believe that the military has different shots

Try putting a shotgun to your head for a shot
I have a shot record book, that is thicker than the Holy Bible, from all the times I had to travel overseas with my father when he was stationed at different places....

never caught a single thing I was vaccinated for..... flu with 1 exception, small pox, typhoid, typhus, measles etc etc etc
The vaccinations that are mandated work. Seriously kid 80,000 Americans died of the flu in 2018, and yet the flu shot is not mandatory, why?

Answer because if it was made mandatory the people who got the flu after the shot would sue and win and the government knows this so only voluntary suckers are needed
I believe it was 61000 deaths, in one year, because they missed the new strain of influenza virus in the vaccine.... but that was NOT THE NORM, and an unusually high death year.

the corona virus 2019 killed near 60,000 people, last month 1 month
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge
The civilian one I get these days is supposed to protect against 4 specific strains that were picked early (in order to get the number of doses in production and distribution) sometimes better than other on certain flus A, Flu B and maybe another that somebody somewhere thought to be on the rise before the real flu season hits. Military that I know tell me theirs is based on 6 varieties, basically picked the same way. Years ago before military, I used to get a good case of flu, sometime making me very sick, but not requiring hospitial, only doctor visit, which didn't really seem to help get rid of it any faster. After initial military amniovirus, and range of shots and updates yearly, as well as whatever they stuck in my arm for overseas trips, I quit getting serious flu enough to miss work and have continued year after year with no flu or very mild flu ever since. If you have no allergic or any other type of systemic reaction to vaccinations, I highly recommend you keep current.
The fact is that more people who get flu shots get the flu than those who do not, which is because the rate of people getting the shot who get sick from it is higher than those who would get the flu if they did not get the shot and because no flu shot protects against the current strain.

Grow up fool. Are you really stupid enough to believe that the military has different shots

Try putting a shotgun to your head for a shot
I have a shot record book, that is thicker than the Holy Bible, from all the times I had to travel overseas with my father when he was stationed at different places....

never caught a single thing I was vaccinated for..... flu with 1 exception, small pox, typhoid, typhus, measles etc etc etc
The vaccinations that are mandated work. Seriously kid 80,000 Americans died of the flu in 2018, and yet the flu shot is not mandatory, why?

Answer because if it was made mandatory the people who got the flu after the shot would sue and win and the government knows this so only voluntary suckers are needed
I believe it was 61000 deaths, in one year, because they missed the new strain of influenza virus in the vaccine.... but that was NOT THE NORM, and an unusually high death year.

the corona virus 2019 killed near 60,000 people, last month 1 month
They never miss the new strain, what happens is they have to make a new vaccine for the new strain once it is found and this takes about a year to develop and test. Same shit happening now, not that there will ever be a coronovirus vaccine that works.

Bingo, they will develop a new corona19 vaccine that will really be protections against the alien landings that are coming.

You do know that the Navy now admits to being chased by aliens
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge
The civilian one I get these days is supposed to protect against 4 specific strains that were picked early (in order to get the number of doses in production and distribution) sometimes better than other on certain flus A, Flu B and maybe another that somebody somewhere thought to be on the rise before the real flu season hits. Military that I know tell me theirs is based on 6 varieties, basically picked the same way. Years ago before military, I used to get a good case of flu, sometime making me very sick, but not requiring hospitial, only doctor visit, which didn't really seem to help get rid of it any faster. After initial military amniovirus, and range of shots and updates yearly, as well as whatever they stuck in my arm for overseas trips, I quit getting serious flu enough to miss work and have continued year after year with no flu or very mild flu ever since. If you have no allergic or any other type of systemic reaction to vaccinations, I highly recommend you keep current.
The fact is that more people who get flu shots get the flu than those who do not, which is because the rate of people getting the shot who get sick from it is higher than those who would get the flu if they did not get the shot and because no flu shot protects against the current strain.

Grow up fool. Are you really stupid enough to believe that the military has different shots

Try putting a shotgun to your head for a shot
I have a shot record book, that is thicker than the Holy Bible, from all the times I had to travel overseas with my father when he was stationed at different places....

never caught a single thing I was vaccinated for..... flu with 1 exception, small pox, typhoid, typhus, measles etc etc etc
If your dad did Europe, you probably had the shot for black plague. That was a memorable one, actually the only one I specifically remember. The MAC flight smell like the vomit comet, somewhere over the Atlantic that night. A lot of troops had a mild reaction, but were mostly over it the next day. Yuk. o_O
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge
The civilian one I get these days is supposed to protect against 4 specific strains that were picked early (in order to get the number of doses in production and distribution) sometimes better than other on certain flus A, Flu B and maybe another that somebody somewhere thought to be on the rise before the real flu season hits. Military that I know tell me theirs is based on 6 varieties, basically picked the same way. Years ago before military, I used to get a good case of flu, sometime making me very sick, but not requiring hospitial, only doctor visit, which didn't really seem to help get rid of it any faster. After initial military amniovirus, and range of shots and updates yearly, as well as whatever they stuck in my arm for overseas trips, I quit getting serious flu enough to miss work and have continued year after year with no flu or very mild flu ever since. If you have no allergic or any other type of systemic reaction to vaccinations, I highly recommend you keep current.
The fact is that more people who get flu shots get the flu than those who do not, which is because the rate of people getting the shot who get sick from it is higher than those who would get the flu if they did not get the shot and because no flu shot protects against the current strain.

Grow up fool. Are you really stupid enough to believe that the military has different shots

Try putting a shotgun to your head for a shot
I have a shot record book, that is thicker than the Holy Bible, from all the times I had to travel overseas with my father when he was stationed at different places....

never caught a single thing I was vaccinated for..... flu with 1 exception, small pox, typhoid, typhus, measles etc etc etc
If your dad did Europe, you probably had the shot for black plague. That was a memorable one, actually the only one I specifically remember. The MAC flight smell like the vomit comet, somewhere over the Atlantic that night. A lot of troops had a mild reaction, but were mostly over it the next day. Yuk. o_O
Guinipigs anyone?

 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge
The civilian one I get these days is supposed to protect against 4 specific strains that were picked early (in order to get the number of doses in production and distribution) sometimes better than other on certain flus A, Flu B and maybe another that somebody somewhere thought to be on the rise before the real flu season hits. Military that I know tell me theirs is based on 6 varieties, basically picked the same way. Years ago before military, I used to get a good case of flu, sometime making me very sick, but not requiring hospitial, only doctor visit, which didn't really seem to help get rid of it any faster. After initial military amniovirus, and range of shots and updates yearly, as well as whatever they stuck in my arm for overseas trips, I quit getting serious flu enough to miss work and have continued year after year with no flu or very mild flu ever since. If you have no allergic or any other type of systemic reaction to vaccinations, I highly recommend you keep current.
The fact is that more people who get flu shots get the flu than those who do not, which is because the rate of people getting the shot who get sick from it is higher than those who would get the flu if they did not get the shot and because no flu shot protects against the current strain.

Grow up fool. Are you really stupid enough to believe that the military has different shots

Try putting a shotgun to your head for a shot
I have a shot record book, that is thicker than the Holy Bible, from all the times I had to travel overseas with my father when he was stationed at different places....

never caught a single thing I was vaccinated for..... flu with 1 exception, small pox, typhoid, typhus, measles etc etc etc
The vaccinations that are mandated work. Seriously kid 80,000 Americans died of the flu in 2018, and yet the flu shot is not mandatory, why?

Answer because if it was made mandatory the people who got the flu after the shot would sue and win and the government knows this so only voluntary suckers are needed
I remember a few years when we ran out or it came in late. Mandatory? We can't get people to follow emergency orders, but we are going to make them get a shot? Yeah, okay.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge
The civilian one I get these days is supposed to protect against 4 specific strains that were picked early (in order to get the number of doses in production and distribution) sometimes better than other on certain flus A, Flu B and maybe another that somebody somewhere thought to be on the rise before the real flu season hits. Military that I know tell me theirs is based on 6 varieties, basically picked the same way. Years ago before military, I used to get a good case of flu, sometime making me very sick, but not requiring hospitial, only doctor visit, which didn't really seem to help get rid of it any faster. After initial military amniovirus, and range of shots and updates yearly, as well as whatever they stuck in my arm for overseas trips, I quit getting serious flu enough to miss work and have continued year after year with no flu or very mild flu ever since. If you have no allergic or any other type of systemic reaction to vaccinations, I highly recommend you keep current.
The fact is that more people who get flu shots get the flu than those who do not, which is because the rate of people getting the shot who get sick from it is higher than those who would get the flu if they did not get the shot and because no flu shot protects against the current strain.

Grow up fool. Are you really stupid enough to believe that the military has different shots

Try putting a shotgun to your head for a shot
I have a shot record book, that is thicker than the Holy Bible, from all the times I had to travel overseas with my father when he was stationed at different places....

never caught a single thing I was vaccinated for..... flu with 1 exception, small pox, typhoid, typhus, measles etc etc etc
The vaccinations that are mandated work. Seriously kid 80,000 Americans died of the flu in 2018, and yet the flu shot is not mandatory, why?

Answer because if it was made mandatory the people who got the flu after the shot would sue and win and the government knows this so only voluntary suckers are needed
I remember a few years when we ran out or it came in late. Mandatory? We can't get people to follow emergency orders, but we are going to make them get a shot? Yeah, okay.
Actually vaccinations are mandatory to attend school old lady. You might want to check into the Biden senility clinic
 
And....that mean ol nasty covid is stopping the production of meat. Been to the market lately? I just got back. Not a lot of beef left in the coolers or freezer sections. Canned meat is picked through too. I got a bunch of sardines, tuna, soups, deviled ham, etc. Pretty soon, meat is going to go the way of toilet paper. If you want to be afraid of anything, be fearful of the food supply ceasing. That'll teach people to balk, by golly!
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge

It worked for me 10 outta 11 times.
All I can say.
How did it work? LOL you are assuming that a person who does not get the vaccine automatically gets the flu.

Just not true, I have had the flu once in my life and never had a flu shot, so I am equal to you and never had the vaccine

Duh
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

Is this Trump’s fault too?
:lol:
No, of course NOT Willow!!!

this was not created as a blame game thread!

It's just another thing about this virus, that makes it more of a monster, than initially thought....

Not that some virologists did not predict that it would mutate, like the Influenza virus does, but in this case this particular mutation is much worse, and is squashing out the original strain, and 6 other mutation strains that have been identified... it's gobbling them up, so to say and is the ALPHA of all mutations and original strain.......

Even though we know China lied in their original death count, they could not have lied too much more than they already did..... and that still would not account for the number of deaths they SHOULD have, based on the infectious rate that we have in the USA with this Corona virus....

BUT, maybe they did not have the millions of infections and deaths that they should have had, could NOW be likely due to the first version of the novel Corona virus was not as contagious as the mutation spreading on the east coast in the USA?
This is the East Coast virus that I got in May. Recovery is the same. It feels like a cold. Relax people. Stop living scared
Are you a narcissist? This isnt about how you survived something like a cold,

certainly you have a sound enough mind to realize that your condition is not what all those people being hospitalized and incubated and meeting their maker thing are going thru.

Are your parents and grandparents still living and do you have close contact with them? How about your Rabbi, are you close with him? This is about caring for others and working together to come to a happy medium on protecting those vulnerable by some simple safety measures and sacrifices, and getting the economy going again as safely as possible.....

both have to be approached together, with sound science and economics and behavior science consideration.
We can do both. Isolate and protect the old and weak and open up the economy. Even though I am more than likely immune I will not see my parents in person until we know more and likely not til next year. My dad is 69 and still works. He has not skipped a beat but my mom is more cautious and she is 63. So to each their own. But they should not be under the same restrictions as me and my kids. So it is you who is naive not I who as you put it narcissistic. What’s up with nursing homes taking back Covid 19 positive patients? We didn’t know enough then. I do not blame Cuomo. We know a lot more now. Let us live.
there are 60 million elderly in the high risk of dying from it and at least another 20 to 30 million that are younger and have medical issues that puts them at high risk....

keeping those at minimum 80 million isolated from their own families and caretakers, husbands or wives, or work for the next 2 to 3 years isn't feasible either.... might as well call that a shut down too.....

the economy will never come back without them.....

we need to get the cases low, low enough to have the man power to isolate those testing positive, and track down all of their contacts of more than 10 minutes that they talked with face to face, and isolate them....within 72 hours.

this gets the rate of spread down to a manageable level.... and leaves everyone else, able to move around with just minor precautions.... like masks, no large gatherings, 6ft separation in their work places or venues where possible..... every little bit helps.... it aids in curbing the spread....


NOW is the time for all good men, to come to the aid of their Country....!!!
So you want to shut everyone down vs some people? How does that make any sense? Best way to curb the spread is herd immunity.
what percentage of the economy was shut down the past few weeks?
Enough
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge

It worked for me 10 outta 11 times.
All I can say.
How did it work? LOL you are assuming that a person who does not get the vaccine automatically gets the flu.

Just not true, I have had the flu once in my life and never had a flu shot, so I am equal to you and never had the vaccine

Duh
It’s exactly like me
 
Everything points to this being a bioweapon.

First it attacks the heart lungs & kidneys of the elderly....and causes a cytokine storm.

Then there was something about it doing nasty things to your nuts...I couldn't take that one so I stuck my fingers in my ears & said LALALALALALALAAAAA.

Some people have caught this virus 3 or 4 times.

Then it starts forming blood clots in 20-30 year olds and causing them heart attacks & strokes.

Now mutating to become more contagious.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge

It worked for me 10 outta 11 times.
All I can say.
How did it work? LOL you are assuming that a person who does not get the vaccine automatically gets the flu.

Just not true, I have had the flu once in my life and never had a flu shot, so I am equal to you and never had the vaccine

Duh
Nope....silly one!

You have not caught it because we are vaccinated and can't pass it to you..... that's how it works....

If I don't catch it, then 1 to 2 people do not catch it from me, and one to two peeps don't catch it from each of them who didn't catch it from me...... And so on and so forth.

The People vaccinated, protect you from getting it and others from getting it....your chances go down in catching it, by more people being vaccinated around you....
 
Everything points to this being a bioweapon.

First it attacks the heart lungs & kidneys of the elderly....and causes a cytokine storm.

Then there was something about it doing nasty things to your nuts...I couldn't take that one so I stuck my fingers in my ears & said LALALALALALALAAAAA.

Some people have caught this virus 3 or 4 times.

Then it starts forming blood clots in 20-30 year olds and causing them heart attacks & strokes.

Now mutating to become more contagious.
I don't know what's going on with it..... it's been very perplexing to the scientists who have studied the corona viruses....

It's a devil of all devils.... You couldn't create a bio weapon better than this sucker!

The scientists don't see any man made manipulation in the genes though.... at least, not yet.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

Been hearing this for weeks. Just another sign of trumps mishandling closing down incoming corona traffic. Did not read your link yet as had heard, but have also heard this is the strain that had such devastating effect on Italy. If it is the same, it accounts for the devastating effect on east coast, but since most severe and highest number of cases has been on east coast, hopefully this is where the herd immunity may come from. Doubt I postulated anything that hasn't occurred to you, as you seem to often be ahead on your reading sources.

There is no such thing as mishandling anything with this virus Putzy. You're talking as if it can be stopped....it cannot be stopped. It will run though the entire world population at some point and then maybe two or three times more.
You will be singing politics out your ass right up till the time you croak in your bedroom from virulent pneumatic symptoms swearing up and down that it has to do with an election or with Russian collusion......

JO
Not me. I always knew your collusion crap was just misdirection. I knew it could not be stopped after the haf-assed job trump did with stopping inbound flights. Doubt if I get it, unless that was what I got in February, flying to ski vacation. Was nasty trying to ski and sleep above 10,000 ft. Three of us developed some time of flu while there and all lived through it, before there was testing available, but all were in excellent physical condition, X-military or active military having been vaccinated extensively and repeatedly for a wide variety of things, due to overseas assignment. Thanks for paying us to stay in shape! :cool:
Show us one country that stopped the virus.

Ignorance is your finest quality.

Dopey Donald Trump is incompetent at every endeavor in his Presidency.

Vietnam borders China and had zero deaths.

New Zealand Has 20 COVID-19 Deaths. Vietnam Zero. How They Succeeded

... For example, Vietnam, a country of 92 million people that shares a border with China, where the outbreak began, had only 271 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and zero reported deaths as of May 5.

South Africa had 7,572 cases and 148 deaths from the disease.

New Zealand had 1,486 cases and 20 deaths. ...
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge

It worked for me 10 outta 11 times.
All I can say.
How did it work? LOL you are assuming that a person who does not get the vaccine automatically gets the flu.

Just not true, I have had the flu once in my life and never had a flu shot, so I am equal to you and never had the vaccine

Duh
Nope....silly one!

You have not caught it because we are vaccinated and can't pass it to you..... that's how it works....

If I don't catch it, then 1 to 2 people do not catch it from me, and one to two peeps don't catch it from each of them who didn't catch it from me...... And so on and so forth.

The People vaccinated, protect you from getting it and others from getting it....your chances go down in catching it, by more people being vaccinated around you....
The flu vaccine does not prevent anyone from catching the flu...................

Now grow up



 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
Dude the flu vaccine only protects a person against last years strain, not the new one. This is common knowledge
The civilian one I get these days is supposed to protect against 4 specific strains that were picked early (in order to get the number of doses in production and distribution) sometimes better than other on certain flus A, Flu B and maybe another that somebody somewhere thought to be on the rise before the real flu season hits. Military that I know tell me theirs is based on 6 varieties, basically picked the same way. Years ago before military, I used to get a good case of flu, sometime making me very sick, but not requiring hospitial, only doctor visit, which didn't really seem to help get rid of it any faster. After initial military amniovirus, and range of shots and updates yearly, as well as whatever they stuck in my arm for overseas trips, I quit getting serious flu enough to miss work and have continued year after year with no flu or very mild flu ever since. If you have no allergic or any other type of systemic reaction to vaccinations, I highly recommend you keep current.
The fact is that more people who get flu shots get the flu than those who do not, which is because the rate of people getting the shot who get sick from it is higher than those who would get the flu if they did not get the shot and because no flu shot protects against the current strain.

Grow up fool. Are you really stupid enough to believe that the military has different shots

Try putting a shotgun to your head for a shot
I have a shot record book, that is thicker than the Holy Bible, from all the times I had to travel overseas with my father when he was stationed at different places....

never caught a single thing I was vaccinated for..... flu with 1 exception, small pox, typhoid, typhus, measles etc etc etc
The vaccinations that are mandated work. Seriously kid 80,000 Americans died of the flu in 2018, and yet the flu shot is not mandatory, why?

Answer because if it was made mandatory the people who got the flu after the shot would sue and win and the government knows this so only voluntary suckers are needed
I believe it was 61000 deaths, in one year, because they missed the new strain of influenza virus in the vaccine.... but that was NOT THE NORM, and an unusually high death year.

the corona virus 2019 killed near 60,000 people, last month 1 month
You are never right because you think and believe as I always know. Again 80,000 died from the flu in the 2018 season


You are wrong because you are just repeating the lies that you hear on TV
 

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