UH OH! We could be in real trouble!

Let me see if I can figure out a way to blame this story from 2003 on Trump:


SARS: Where Did It Come From?
Emerging viruses: Scientists scramble to find the natural hosts before they spawn another outbreak.


By Joanne Lee-Young
July 2, 2003

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Damn, I've never seen a map of Mar-a-Lago drawn and shaped like that !!


In April, when Canadian scientists sequenced the genetic code of the SARS virus, they discovered a microbe unlike any other ever seen in humans or animals. On its genome "there is a long stretch of nucleotides and then one big piece that sticks out," says University of Hong Kong microbiologist Malik Peiris, who first linked SARS to a novel coronavirus. "When we then looked to see if antibodies for it exist in human blood samples, there were none."
So where did the SARS virus come from? At press time, eight months after the first case was diagnosed in a bird and snake merchant in the Chinese city of Shunde, the source of the virus was still unknown. But researchers are narrowing the suspects to animals found in southern China, where humans and critters often live cheek by jowl.


 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
that's hilarious. the vaccine is supposed to ensure you don't get a virus. that's truly special, thanks for the fking laugh out loud. hhahahahahahahaha
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May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:


^ ' We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity. '



AzogtheDefiler is gonna go into overtime having to spin this.

So no vaccine, no herd immunity...may as well live your life...LOL. You’re all such cowards it’s sad.

I was listening to Pink Floyd today, this seems to wrap it up.

Mother
Pink Floyd
Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb?
Mother do you think they'll like this song?
Mother do you think they'll try to break my balls?
Ooh, ah
Mother should I build the wall?
Mother should I run for President?
Mother should I trust the government?
Mother will they put me in the firing mine?
Ooh ah,
Is it just a waste of time?
Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry.
Mama's gonna make all your nightmares come true.
Mama's gonna put all her fears into you.
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing.
She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing.
Mama's gonna keep baby cozy and warm.
Ooh baby, ooh baby, ooh baby,
Of course mama's gonna help build the wall.
Mother do you think she's good enough?
For me?
Mother do you think she's dangerous,
To me?
Mother will she tear your little boy apart?
Ooh ah,
Mother will she break my heart?
Hush now baby, baby don't you cry.
Mama's gonna check out all your girlfriends for you.
Mama won't let anyone dirty get through.
Mama's gonna wait up until you get in.
Mama will always find out where you've been.
Mama's gonna keep baby healthy and clean.
Ooh baby, ooh baby, ooh baby,
You'll always be baby to me.
Mother, did it need to be so high?

Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man)
Styx
You see the world through your cynical eyes
You're a troubled young man I can tell
You've got it all in the palm of your hand
But your hand's wet with sweat and your head needs a rest
And you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
Why must you be such an angry young man
When your future looks quite bright to me
How can there be such a sinister plan
That could hide such a lamb, such a caring young man
You're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
Get up, get back on your feet
You're the one they can't beat and you know it
Come on, let's see what you've got
Just take your best shot and don't blow it
You're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're killing yourself if you don't believe it
Get up, get back on your feet
You're the one they can't beat and you know it
Come on, let's see what you've got
Just take your best shot and don't blow it
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Tommy Shaw
Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man) lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group


grand illusion ( styx )

Welcome to the Grand illusion
Come on in and see what's happening
Pay the price, get your tickets for the show

The stage is set, the band starts playing
Suddenly your heart is pounding
Wishing secretly you were a star

But don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy


So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because you never win the game
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
'Cause deep inside we're all the same
We're all the same...


So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same

America spells competition
Join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car

Someday soon we'll stop to ponder
What on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder
Who the hell we are

 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
that's hilarious. the vaccine is supposed to ensure you don't get a virus. that's truly special, thanks for the fking laugh out loud. hhahahahahahahahaView attachment 332425

It has except for once.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:


^ ' We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity. '



AzogtheDefiler is gonna go into overtime having to spin this.

So no vaccine, no herd immunity...may as well live your life...LOL. You’re all such cowards it’s sad.

I was listening to Pink Floyd today, this seems to wrap it up.

Mother
Pink Floyd
Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb?
Mother do you think they'll like this song?
Mother do you think they'll try to break my balls?
Ooh, ah
Mother should I build the wall?
Mother should I run for President?
Mother should I trust the government?
Mother will they put me in the firing mine?
Ooh ah,
Is it just a waste of time?
Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry.
Mama's gonna make all your nightmares come true.
Mama's gonna put all her fears into you.
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing.
She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing.
Mama's gonna keep baby cozy and warm.
Ooh baby, ooh baby, ooh baby,
Of course mama's gonna help build the wall.
Mother do you think she's good enough?
For me?
Mother do you think she's dangerous,
To me?
Mother will she tear your little boy apart?
Ooh ah,
Mother will she break my heart?
Hush now baby, baby don't you cry.
Mama's gonna check out all your girlfriends for you.
Mama won't let anyone dirty get through.
Mama's gonna wait up until you get in.
Mama will always find out where you've been.
Mama's gonna keep baby healthy and clean.
Ooh baby, ooh baby, ooh baby,
You'll always be baby to me.
Mother, did it need to be so high?

Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man)
Styx
You see the world through your cynical eyes
You're a troubled young man I can tell
You've got it all in the palm of your hand
But your hand's wet with sweat and your head needs a rest
And you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
Why must you be such an angry young man
When your future looks quite bright to me
How can there be such a sinister plan
That could hide such a lamb, such a caring young man
You're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
Get up, get back on your feet
You're the one they can't beat and you know it
Come on, let's see what you've got
Just take your best shot and don't blow it
You're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're killing yourself if you don't believe it
Get up, get back on your feet
You're the one they can't beat and you know it
Come on, let's see what you've got
Just take your best shot and don't blow it
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Tommy Shaw
Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man) lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group


grand illusion ( styx )

Welcome to the Grand illusion
Come on in and see what's happening
Pay the price, get your tickets for the show

The stage is set, the band starts playing
Suddenly your heart is pounding
Wishing secretly you were a star

But don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy


So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because you never win the game
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
'Cause deep inside we're all the same
We're all the same...


So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same

America spells competition
Join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car

Someday soon we'll stop to ponder
What on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder
Who the hell we are

Suite Madame Blue
Styx
Time after time I sit and I wait for your call
I know I'm a fool but why can I say
Whatever the price I'll pay for you,
Madame Blue
Once long ago, a word from your lips and the world turned around
But somehow you've changed, you're so far away
I long for the past and dream of the days with you,
Madame Blue
Suite Madame Blue, gaze in your looking glass
You're not a child anymore
Suite Madame Blue, the future is all but past
Dressed in your jewels, you made your own rules
You conquered the world and more, heaven's door
Oh
America, America, America, America
America, America, America, America
America, America, America, America
America, America, America, America
America, America, America, America
America, America, America, America
Red white and blue, gaze in your looking glass
You're not a child anymore
Red, white, and blue, the future is all but past
So lift up your heart, make a new start
And lead us away from here
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Dennis De Young
Suite Madame Blue lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
that's hilarious. the vaccine is supposed to ensure you don't get a virus. that's truly special, thanks for the fking laugh out loud. hhahahahahahahahaView attachment 332425

It has except for once.
once is too many
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
that's hilarious. the vaccine is supposed to ensure you don't get a virus. that's truly special, thanks for the fking laugh out loud. hhahahahahahahahaView attachment 332425

It has except for once.
once is too many

Out of 11 years?
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

Is this Trump’s fault too?
:lol:
No, of course NOT Willow!!!

this was not created as a blame game thread!

It's just another thing about this virus, that makes it more of a monster, than initially thought....

Not that some virologists did not predict that it would mutate, like the Influenza virus does, but in this case this particular mutation is much worse, and is squashing out the original strain, and 6 other mutation strains that have been identified... it's gobbling them up, so to say and is the ALPHA of all mutations and original strain.......

Even though we know China lied in their original death count, they could not have lied too much more than they already did..... and that still would not account for the number of deaths they SHOULD have, based on the infectious rate that we have in the USA with this Corona virus....

BUT, maybe they did not have the millions of infections and deaths that they should have had, could NOW be likely due to the first version of the novel Corona virus was not as contagious as the mutation spreading on the east coast in the USA?
This is the East Coast virus that I got in May. Recovery is the same. It feels like a cold. Relax people. Stop living scared
Are you a narcissist? This isnt about how you survived something like a cold,

certainly you have a sound enough mind to realize that your condition is not what all those people being hospitalized and incubated and meeting their maker thing are going thru.

Are your parents and grandparents still living and do you have close contact with them? How about your Rabbi, are you close with him? This is about caring for others and working together to come to a happy medium on protecting those vulnerable by some simple safety measures and sacrifices, and getting the economy going again as safely as possible.....

both have to be approached together, with sound science and economics and behavior science consideration.
We can do both. Isolate and protect the old and weak and open up the economy. Even though I am more than likely immune I will not see my parents in person until we know more and likely not til next year. My dad is 69 and still works. He has not skipped a beat but my mom is more cautious and she is 63. So to each their own. But they should not be under the same restrictions as me and my kids. So it is you who is naive not I who as you put it narcissistic. What’s up with nursing homes taking back Covid 19 positive patients? We didn’t know enough then. I do not blame Cuomo. We know a lot more now. Let us live.
there are 60 million elderly in the high risk of dying from it and at least another 20 to 30 million that are younger and have medical issues that puts them at high risk....

keeping those at minimum 80 million isolated from their own families and caretakers, husbands or wives, or work for the next 2 to 3 years isn't feasible either.... might as well call that a shut down too.....

the economy will never come back without them.....

we need to get the cases low, low enough to have the man power to isolate those testing positive, and track down all of their contacts of more than 10 minutes that they talked with face to face, and isolate them....within 72 hours.

this gets the rate of spread down to a manageable level.... and leaves everyone else, able to move around with just minor precautions.... like masks, no large gatherings, 6ft separation in their work places or venues where possible..... every little bit helps.... it aids in curbing the spread....


NOW is the time for all good men, to come to the aid of their Country....!!!
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
I have never had a vaccine and have not had the flu in 10 yrs. eh....
Congrats!
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

/——-/ They're treating it like breaking news, but they knew about it on the East Coast since March.
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May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
that's hilarious. the vaccine is supposed to ensure you don't get a virus. that's truly special, thanks for the fking laugh out loud. hhahahahahahahahaView attachment 332425

It has except for once.
once is too many

Out of 11 years?
a vaccine is supposed to stop a virus.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

/——-/ They're treating it like breaking news, but they knew about it on the East Coast since March.
View attachment 332428
I heard that one Saturday, cracked up. Had been drinking.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

Is this Trump’s fault too?
:lol:
No, of course NOT Willow!!!

this was not created as a blame game thread!

It's just another thing about this virus, that makes it more of a monster, than initially thought....

Not that some virologists did not predict that it would mutate, like the Influenza virus does, but in this case this particular mutation is much worse, and is squashing out the original strain, and 6 other mutation strains that have been identified... it's gobbling them up, so to say and is the ALPHA of all mutations and original strain.......

Even though we know China lied in their original death count, they could not have lied too much more than they already did..... and that still would not account for the number of deaths they SHOULD have, based on the infectious rate that we have in the USA with this Corona virus....

BUT, maybe they did not have the millions of infections and deaths that they should have had, could NOW be likely due to the first version of the novel Corona virus was not as contagious as the mutation spreading on the east coast in the USA?
This is the East Coast virus that I got in May. Recovery is the same. It feels like a cold. Relax people. Stop living scared
Are you a narcissist? This isnt about how you survived something like a cold,

certainly you have a sound enough mind to realize that your condition is not what all those people being hospitalized and incubated and meeting their maker thing are going thru.

Are your parents and grandparents still living and do you have close contact with them? How about your Rabbi, are you close with him? This is about caring for others and working together to come to a happy medium on protecting those vulnerable by some simple safety measures and sacrifices, and getting the economy going again as safely as possible.....

both have to be approached together, with sound science and economics and behavior science consideration.
We can do both. Isolate and protect the old and weak and open up the economy. Even though I am more than likely immune I will not see my parents in person until we know more and likely not til next year. My dad is 69 and still works. He has not skipped a beat but my mom is more cautious and she is 63. So to each their own. But they should not be under the same restrictions as me and my kids. So it is you who is naive not I who as you put it narcissistic. What’s up with nursing homes taking back Covid 19 positive patients? We didn’t know enough then. I do not blame Cuomo. We know a lot more now. Let us live.
there are 60 million elderly in the high risk of dying from it and at least another 20 to 30 million that are younger and have medical issues that puts them at high risk....

keeping those at minimum 80 million isolated from their own families and caretakers, husbands or wives, or work for the next 2 to 3 years isn't feasible either.... might as well call that a shut down too.....

the economy will never come back without them.....

we need to get the cases low, low enough to have the man power to isolate those testing positive, and track down all of their contacts of more than 10 minutes that they talked with face to face, and isolate them....within 72 hours.

this gets the rate of spread down to a manageable level.... and leaves everyone else, able to move around with just minor precautions.... like masks, no large gatherings, 6ft separation in their work places or venues where possible..... every little bit helps.... it aids in curbing the spread....


NOW is the time for all good men, to come to the aid of their Country....!!!

Too late?
We're fucked?
We blew it?
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
that's hilarious. the vaccine is supposed to ensure you don't get a virus. that's truly special, thanks for the fking laugh out loud. hhahahahahahahahaView attachment 332425

It has except for once.
once is too many

Out of 11 years?
a vaccine is supposed to stop a virus.

One year out of eleven ain't bad.....:rock:
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
that's hilarious. the vaccine is supposed to ensure you don't get a virus. that's truly special, thanks for the fking laugh out loud. hhahahahahahahahaView attachment 332425

It has except for once.
once is too many

Out of 11 years?
a vaccine is supposed to stop a virus.

One year out of eleven ain't bad.....:rock:
I haven't had any and had the same stats. And I had the flu five years ago.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
me and hubby too, the flu shot always worked except for 1 year, the 2017/18 season, we both caught it and got really sick.... for like 3 weeks with it!

but that was a flu shot, that missed altogether the flu that was spreading that year.... it was not in the vaccine at all! the flu shot gurus missed it.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
I have never had a vaccine and have not had the flu in 10 yrs. eh....

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:thanks:
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

Is this Trump’s fault too?
:lol:
No, of course NOT Willow!!!

this was not created as a blame game thread!

It's just another thing about this virus, that makes it more of a monster, than initially thought....

Not that some virologists did not predict that it would mutate, like the Influenza virus does, but in this case this particular mutation is much worse, and is squashing out the original strain, and 6 other mutation strains that have been identified... it's gobbling them up, so to say and is the ALPHA of all mutations and original strain.......

Even though we know China lied in their original death count, they could not have lied too much more than they already did..... and that still would not account for the number of deaths they SHOULD have, based on the infectious rate that we have in the USA with this Corona virus....

BUT, maybe they did not have the millions of infections and deaths that they should have had, could NOW be likely due to the first version of the novel Corona virus was not as contagious as the mutation spreading on the east coast in the USA?
This is the East Coast virus that I got in May. Recovery is the same. It feels like a cold. Relax people. Stop living scared
Are you a narcissist? This isnt about how you survived something like a cold,

certainly you have a sound enough mind to realize that your condition is not what all those people being hospitalized and incubated and meeting their maker thing are going thru.

Are your parents and grandparents still living and do you have close contact with them? How about your Rabbi, are you close with him? This is about caring for others and working together to come to a happy medium on protecting those vulnerable by some simple safety measures and sacrifices, and getting the economy going again as safely as possible.....

both have to be approached together, with sound science and economics and behavior science consideration.
We can do both. Isolate and protect the old and weak and open up the economy. Even though I am more than likely immune I will not see my parents in person until we know more and likely not til next year. My dad is 69 and still works. He has not skipped a beat but my mom is more cautious and she is 63. So to each their own. But they should not be under the same restrictions as me and my kids. So it is you who is naive not I who as you put it narcissistic. What’s up with nursing homes taking back Covid 19 positive patients? We didn’t know enough then. I do not blame Cuomo. We know a lot more now. Let us live.
there are 60 million elderly in the high risk of dying from it and at least another 20 to 30 million that are younger and have medical issues that puts them at high risk....

keeping those at minimum 80 million isolated from their own families and caretakers, husbands or wives, or work for the next 2 to 3 years isn't feasible either.... might as well call that a shut down too.....

the economy will never come back without them.....

we need to get the cases low, low enough to have the man power to isolate those testing positive, and track down all of their contacts of more than 10 minutes that they talked with face to face, and isolate them....within 72 hours.

this gets the rate of spread down to a manageable level.... and leaves everyone else, able to move around with just minor precautions.... like masks, no large gatherings, 6ft separation in their work places or venues where possible..... every little bit helps.... it aids in curbing the spread....


NOW is the time for all good men, to come to the aid of their Country....!!!
So you want to shut everyone down vs some people? How does that make any sense? Best way to curb the spread is herd immunity.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

There is no vaccine and there never will be just as there is no effective flu vaccine even though we are told that there is

Flu vaccines have worked for me except for one time in the last 11 years.
You must be a Hahvaard grad....
me and hubby too, the flu shot always worked except for 1 year, the 2017/18 season, we both caught it and got really sick.... for like 3 weeks with it!

but that was a flu shot, that missed altogether the flu that was spreading that year.... it was not in the vaccine at all! the flu shot gurus missed it.

same for me. i think that was the year that the vaccine really missed the mark. they tweek it every year based on what they think which strain will be most prominent; but i think the basic vaccine remains the same.

both me & hubby think we might have had covid 19 back in jan - because it felt like the flu, but a 'milder' form & i just figured that was what it was.
 
May 5, 2020
4 AM

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.
The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.


We could be in big trouble! those infected may not offer herd immunity.

And a vaccine may not be as effective as hoped!

Read the full article here:

Is this Trump’s fault too?
:lol:
No, of course NOT Willow!!!

this was not created as a blame game thread!

It's just another thing about this virus, that makes it more of a monster, than initially thought....

Not that some virologists did not predict that it would mutate, like the Influenza virus does, but in this case this particular mutation is much worse, and is squashing out the original strain, and 6 other mutation strains that have been identified... it's gobbling them up, so to say and is the ALPHA of all mutations and original strain.......

Even though we know China lied in their original death count, they could not have lied too much more than they already did..... and that still would not account for the number of deaths they SHOULD have, based on the infectious rate that we have in the USA with this Corona virus....

BUT, maybe they did not have the millions of infections and deaths that they should have had, could NOW be likely due to the first version of the novel Corona virus was not as contagious as the mutation spreading on the east coast in the USA?
This is the East Coast virus that I got in May. Recovery is the same. It feels like a cold. Relax people. Stop living scared
Are you a narcissist? This isnt about how you survived something like a cold,

certainly you have a sound enough mind to realize that your condition is not what all those people being hospitalized and incubated and meeting their maker thing are going thru.

Are your parents and grandparents still living and do you have close contact with them? How about your Rabbi, are you close with him? This is about caring for others and working together to come to a happy medium on protecting those vulnerable by some simple safety measures and sacrifices, and getting the economy going again as safely as possible.....

both have to be approached together, with sound science and economics and behavior science consideration.
We can do both. Isolate and protect the old and weak and open up the economy. Even though I am more than likely immune I will not see my parents in person until we know more and likely not til next year. My dad is 69 and still works. He has not skipped a beat but my mom is more cautious and she is 63. So to each their own. But they should not be under the same restrictions as me and my kids. So it is you who is naive not I who as you put it narcissistic. What’s up with nursing homes taking back Covid 19 positive patients? We didn’t know enough then. I do not blame Cuomo. We know a lot more now. Let us live.
there are 60 million elderly in the high risk of dying from it and at least another 20 to 30 million that are younger and have medical issues that puts them at high risk....

keeping those at minimum 80 million isolated from their own families and caretakers, husbands or wives, or work for the next 2 to 3 years isn't feasible either.... might as well call that a shut down too.....

the economy will never come back without them.....

we need to get the cases low, low enough to have the man power to isolate those testing positive, and track down all of their contacts of more than 10 minutes that they talked with face to face, and isolate them....within 72 hours.

this gets the rate of spread down to a manageable level.... and leaves everyone else, able to move around with just minor precautions.... like masks, no large gatherings, 6ft separation in their work places or venues where possible..... every little bit helps.... it aids in curbing the spread....


NOW is the time for all good men, to come to the aid of their Country....!!!
So you want to shut everyone down vs some people? How does that make any sense? Best way to curb the spread is herd immunity.
what percentage of the economy was shut down the past few weeks?
 

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