University of Chicago Professor John Mearsheimer Explains Why the Ukraine War is the Fault of the US and Biden

[munkle]

For anyone who wants to get past the childish cartoon narrative Putin = Hitler. It is the US's fault for overthrowing President Yanukovych and trying to make Ukraine a part of NATO, which Putin warned over and over don't go there. Russia would not tolerate NATO missiles in Ukraine 300 miles from Moscow, the same as we would not tolerate Russian or Chinese missiles in Tijuana.

This is the best overview, famous University of Chicago International Relations Professor John Mearsheimer. Watch this and your IQ will go up.

 

[pknopp]

I've argued this since even before the war started.

 

[jwoodie]

Why should Ukraine be in NATO, other than to threaten Russia?

 

[Stormy Daniels]

No thanks.

Mearsheimer basically thinks that Putin isn't expansionist at all, and that the west has scared Putin into attacking Ukraine, and thereby basically forced his hand. It's complete nonsense. He has previously suggested that Ukraine aligning with the EU and NATO is on par with China creating a NPTO and tried to convince Canada to join.

But his nonsense is easily seen for what it is because first, the US would not invade Canada in such a hypothetical scenario, and second his theory completely fails to account for other Putin's expansionist actions, such as his invasion of Georgia where Putin directed ethnic cleansing in South Ossetia.

 

[1srelluc]

I should have been a Professor....I guess Wizard will just have to do.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why should Ukraine be in NATO, other than to threaten Russia?

Why would any nation want to be in NATO?

Russia never did nuffin' to nobody.

They are the perfect neighbor.

 

[Lesh]

Why would any nation want to be in NATO?

Russia never did nuffin' to nobody.

They are the perfect neighbor.

Was that sarcasm?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Was that sarcasm?

Well duh.
Obama thought Russia wasn't a threat in 2012, but he's an idiot.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why should Ukraine be in NATO, other than to threaten Russia?

Also to pump up the (sales) volume for U.S. Arms manufacturers.

 

[Donald H]

Trump has always maintained the same as Mearsheimer.

It's hardly a secret anymore! After the election Trump can start to get more persistent with the facts.

But he's treading on very dangerous grounds when he starts to convince Americans that Putin and Russia shouldn't be enemies.

 

[Lesh]

Well duh.
Obama thought Russia wasn't a threat in 2012, but he's an idiot.

12 years ago?

 

[Litwin]

For anyone who wants to get past the childish cartoon narrative Putin = Hitler. It is the US's fault for overthrowing President Yanukovych and trying to make Ukraine a part of NATO, which Putin warned over and over don't go there. Russia would not tolerate NATO missiles in Ukraine 300 miles from Moscow, the same as we would not tolerate Russian or Chinese missiles in Tijuana.

This is the best overview, famous University of Chicago International Relations Professor John Mearsheimer. Watch this and your IQ will go up.

Is Mearsheimer quoting Goebbels ???

putin´s imperial propaganda : "Moscow's goal is not limited to war in Ukraine. The real goal is to destroy NATO."

That is the evil empire! Naive fools in the West still think that Moscow 🇷🇺 imperial aggression will not affect them. tsar🇷🇺 Pootin wants the world to live by his rules.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

12 years ago?

Yeah, a couple of years before Putin took Crimea.
I guess when the 1980s called, Obama should have listened better.

 

[Litwin]

Yeah, a couple of years before Putin took Crimea.
I guess when the 1980s called, Obama should have listened better.

Trump has always maintained the same as Mearsheimer.

It's hardly a secret anymore! After the election Trump can start to get more persistent with the facts.

But he's treading on very dangerous grounds when he starts to convince Americans that Putin and Russia shouldn't be enemies.

Wait, you're saying this soldier is actually Donbasian national, not Transnistrian?!

 

[Lesh]

Wait, you're saying this soldier is actually Donbasian national, not Transnistrian?!

What a crock of Kremlin shit

 

[Litwin]

What a crock of Kremlin shit

The tragedy of John Mearsheimer​

How the American realist became the world’s most hated thinker.

The tragedy of John Mearsheimer

How the American realist became the world’s most hated thinker.

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Meet CANNIBAL Denis Gorin, the latest Moscow 🐐 🇷🇺 "hero" to be pardoned after leaving jail mid-sentence to fight in Ukraine

The POOTLER´S troops aren’t being fed very well. He might get hungry.... Moscow ulus is bizarre.... Meet CANNIBAL Denis Gorin, the latest Moscow "hero" to be pardoned after leaving jail mid-sentence to fight in Ukraine

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[munkle]

What a crock of Kremlin shit

Here are the Nazi sweethearts we made common cause with to overthrow Yanukovych. They are now in the government. They would crucify you for being gay.

Profile: Ukraine's ultra-nationalist Right Sector

The Right Sector is the most radical wing of Ukraine's Maidan protest movement that toppled President Viktor Yanukovych in February.

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[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Here are the Nazi sweethearts we made common cause with to overthrow Yanukovych. They are now in the government. They would crucify you for being gay.


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Profile: Ukraine's ultra-nationalist Right Sector

The Right Sector is the most radical wing of Ukraine's Maidan protest movement that toppled President Viktor Yanukovych in February.

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Radical lefties never address that stuff. That is what makes them the biggest trolls out there.

No seriously …. You can’t make this stuff up the radical left bitches and moans every day about “white supremacy” in America and they don’t even acknowledge the picture above after countless examples of Nazis in the Ukraine military shown. They won’t even talk about it.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Oh boy all those little trolls are gonna be calling the original poster a “Russian sympathizer” big-time. I bet their blood is boiling right now they’re whining so much lolz

“russian sympathizers”

“Jew sympathizer
Black sympathizer”

Do some of the anti-Russians realize how hypocritical and bigoted they sound.????

As for Russias invasion of Ukraine. Reminds of America’s invasion of Iraq a bit. I don’t agree with Russian invading Ukraine. And It’s not America’s fault. Russia made that decision. Like America made a decision to invade Iraq.

As for this idea of a scenario of America invading Canada being similar to Russia invading Ukraine … it’s not at all similar. Ukraine was once a part of the Soviet Union. Most of the people in Ukraine are of Russian ethnic background. This goes back centuries. America on the other hand is an idea a country filled with different ethnicities. There are many differences between America compared to Ukraine and Russia.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine was due in part to political ideologies, but there is certainly more to the picture. America is not threatened by Mexico or Canada. Not at all. On the other hand, the idea of Ukraine joining NATO is somewhat of a threat to Russia. So that played a role as well. Also, some percentage of Ukrainian people wants to be a part of Russia. That’s not really the case with Mexican or Canadian folks wanting to join America


One thing we know from this conversation is the radical left is completely insane. They bring no arguments to the table other than calling people Russian sympathizers or Putin lovers for having a different view. It’s unfortunate and hilarious at the same time.

 

[munkle]

Oh boy all those little trolls are gonna be calling the original poster a “Russian sympathizer” big-time. I bet their blood is boiling right now they’re whining so much lolz

“russian sympathizers”

“Jew sympathizer
Black sympathizer”

Do some of the anti-Russians realize how hypocritical and bigoted they sound.????

As for Russias invasion of Ukraine. Reminds of America’s invasion of Iraq a bit. I don’t agree with Russian invading Ukraine. And It’s not America’s fault. Russia made that decision. Like America made a decision to invade Iraq.

As for this idea of a scenario of America invading Canada being similar to Russia invading Ukraine … it’s not at all similar. Ukraine was once a part of the Soviet Union. Most of the people in Ukraine are of Russian ethnic background. This goes back centuries. America on the other hand is an idea a country filled with different ethnicities. There are many differences between America compared to Ukraine and Russia.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine was due in part to political ideologies, but there is certainly more to the picture. America is not threatened by Mexico or Canada. Not at all. On the other hand, the idea of Ukraine joining NATO is somewhat of a threat to Russia. So that played a role as well. Also, some percentage of Ukrainian people wants to be a part of Russia. That’s not really the case with Mexican or Canadian folks wanting to join America


One thing we know from this conversation is the radical left is completely insane. They bring no arguments to the table other than calling people Russian sympathizers or Putin lovers for having a different view. It’s unfortunate and hilarious at the same time.

this ^^^